Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! Part 3

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They aren't? What separates us from God? Sin. Not some sins more than other sins....just sin.
the only thing separating us from God is ourselves. Adam fled and hid from GOD after he sinned. God went and dug him out and fixed it. Prodigal's father became dirty to welcome his son home.

To implement His Law, not man's own laws.
If someone wants to keep the Jewish Covental laws, I have to ask them why they abandoned Christ and His Church? His church is fashioned after Melchizedek, before Jew or Gentile and before any Law



No, I am absolutely not an anarchist but I do not have to recognize man's laws as righteous. Scripture instructs that we are to obey the law of the land, however, in Acts 5:27-29 it's clear that when man's law contradicts God's, we are to obey God.
Who determines that? Slippery slope here. The Church is already flat out ANTI CHRIST in standing up to the law now, they can't take mu;ch more of it.
 

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What a foolish man you are. You don't know who you're talking to. I am the furthest thing from what you are thinking. ( But mayhap you have me confused with my cousin, who really is living the death-style )

He's a walking dichotomy. If you disagree with him on any given point, then he thinks you're a closeted homosexual. Rather ironic as most people disagree with him on most of his rambling and that would equate to most of the world being gay...

Welcome back to the thread Art. For those of you that don't follow the ranting's of Art Brain, he's been busy in another thread trying to convince a fellow TOL'er that he's a heterosexual (talking about how at 16 years old, he had a crush on a 21 year old woman).

Not most of the world Art (2% of the adult population is not "most of the world"), but many of those that defend homosexuality (and GFR7 defends it in a different way) in this thread in fact are practicing sodomites.
 

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Don't believe Christianity and Islam are that different. The hysterical fixation on all things gay, feminism and patriarchy is part of Shari'a Law. It doesn't much matter which religion we're talking about.

Yet call yourself a Christian. Hmmmmmm.
 

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Dinesh D'Souza some years ago tried to make this point: That US Christians ought to unite with Islam, as they are so similar. It went about as well as you would expect....

Islam and your homosexual movement have so much in common: They both HATE Christianity.
 

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Its threads like this that expose how narrow minded, mean spirited and devoid of love some Christian conservatives harbor for their fellow man!

Christ reserved his severest criticisms, not for those who committed criminal acts under the law, but for the scribes, Pharisees and chief priests for their self-righteousness, judgemental attitudes and the obstacles they placed in the way for those seeking God!

And here we have GFR7 presenting out of context Scripture and agreeing with one of TOL's most avid homosexualists: jgarden.

I've spent more than enough time exposing this fraud, time to...

move on.
Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized!

I have no problem with conservatives that oppose gay-marriage - that's what conservatives do and they have every right to exercise their 1st Amendment Rights!


Matthew 22:36-40

36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’

38 This is the first and greatest commandment.

39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’

40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

Gays, however, are still our "neighbors" and when those who claim to be Christians relegate them to some faceless "sub species" that "MUST Be Recriminalized," they make a mockery of The Greatest Commandment.

As portrayed in "The Parable of the Good Samaritan," our "neighbors" are not limited to those who share our beliefs and values.


Samaritans and Jesus

Samaritans were hated by Jesus' target audience, the Jews, to such a degree that the Lawyer's phrase "The one who had mercy on him" may indicate a reluctance to name the Samaritan. The Samaritans in turn hated the Jews. Tensions were particularly high in the early decades of the first century because Samaritans had desecrated the Jewish Temple at Passover with human bones.

As the story reached those who were unaware of the oppression of the Samaritans, this aspect of the parable became less and less discernible: fewer and fewer people ever heard of them in any context other than as a description. Today, the story is often recast in a more modern setting where the people are ones in equivalent social groups known not to interact comfortably.

Thus, cast appropriately, the parable regains its message to modern listeners: namely, that an individual of a social group they disapprove of can exhibit moral behavior that is superior to individuals of the groups they approve. Christians have used it as an example of Christianity's opposition to racial, ethnic, and sectarian prejudice.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_Good_Samaritan
 
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Welcome back to the thread Art. For those of you that don't follow the ranting's of Art Brain, he's been busy in another thread trying to convince a fellow TOL'er that he's a heterosexual (talking about how at 16 years old, he had a crush on a 21 year old woman).

Not most of the world Art (2% of the adult population is not "most of the world"), but many of those that defend homosexuality (and GFR7 defends it in a different way) in this thread in fact are practicing sodomites.

Yeah Connie, cos anyone who disagrees with your stance is either on a rant or gay...the irony in regards to both is palpable. Most people just on here don't seem to agree with you, so is the likelihood that most here are homosexual?

Or is it more likely that you're simply a fixated crank?

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Yeah Connie, cos anyone who disagrees with your stance is either on a rant or gay...the irony in regards to both is palpable. Most people just on here don't seem to agree with you, so is the likelihood that most here are homosexual?

Or is it more likely that you're simply a fixated crank?

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:jawdrop: :think:
 

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someone stole his doorknob and he can't get out, so he's ticked.
I am beginning to think so. Only a pot calls the kettle black. He keeps calling me a homosexualist, and yet I must be a very strange one indeed:

My posts are complaining about same sex marriage and the gay agenda in the media. What kind of fool gay activist would post those things, between rest stop pickups (aCW says he knows I get men at rest stops).

Too much accusation, too many references to gay sex: He is speaking of some dark thing strangling inside him. :think:
 

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I am beginning to think so. Only a pot calls the kettle black. He keeps calling me a homosexualist, and yet I must be a very strange one indeed:

My posts are complaining about same sex marriage and the gay agenda in the media. What kind of fool gay activist would post those things, between rest stop pickups (aCW says he knows I get men at rest stops).

Too much accusation, too many references to gay sex: He is speaking of some dark thing strangling inside him. :think:

He wouldn't be the first if he is in fact homosexual. Believe it or not there was someone here at one point who was somehow even more obsessed with homosexuality than aCW, to the point where he advocated killing them and in an insanely obsessive manner. He was called 'Just Tom' and eventually admitted it, not that his projected self loathing wasn't already apparent to most. aCW isn't quite as nuts to be fair but the obsession and bizzare imaginings aren't that far behind...
 

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He wouldn't be the first if he is in fact homosexual. Believe it or not there was someone here at one point who was somehow even more obsessed with homosexuality than aCW, to the point where he advocated killing them and in an insanely obsessive manner. He was called 'Just Tom' and eventually admitted it, not that his projected self loathing wasn't already apparent to most. aCW isn't quite as nuts to be fair but the obsession and bizzare imaginings aren't that far behind...
Thanks for sharing that story - it's interesting, and quite sad, really. :(

Well, one of the basic axioms of psychoanalysis is too much accusing = projection. I would rather be the one accused, than the accuser.
 

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My point is that not all sins are seen as equal, nor should they be. Why do you think homosexuality was considered a capital crime at one time in history and throughout the history of Christianized western civilization those who engaged in it were often times charged with a felony?

They aren't? What separates us from God? Sin. Not some sins more than other sins....just sin.

Remember that you're in a political forum IMJ. Do understand why some criminal acts are penalized more severely than others by civil government? Do you understand why acts of homosexuality weren't taken lightly in the eyes of righteous (i.e. God-fearing) governments?


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But God did ordain the civil magistrate as one of three institutions (along with the church and family) to govern mankind.

To implement His Law, not man's own laws.

Exactly.

(Obviously you too are a member of the "Christian Taliban").


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Surely you're not an anarchist who is against using righteous laws to govern are you IMJ?

No, I am absolutely not an anarchist but I do not have to recognize man's laws as righteous. Scripture instructs that we are to obey the law of the land, however, in Acts 5:27-29 it's clear that when man's law contradicts God's, we are to obey God.

And the point of this thread is that man has not obeyed God when civil government legalized such things as homosexuality, abortion and pornography.


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Then why have laws?

Secular laws?...for an ordered society. God's law?....because He said so (lol) and for an ordered society under Him.

All laws have a moral basis, either God's or secular humanist mans (We agree on so many things, why are we arguing here?).


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Where do you think traditional/conservative values come from (I'll give you a hint: The Holy Bible).

Don't be a snot, it doesn't become you.

I'm just pointing out a fact. Oh, and by the way, I was born with the "sarcasm gene".


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Get used to the term culture war, as it is "a war between conflicting ideas and beliefs of society's moral codes."

Get used to thinking of yourself as a Christian man first and a man second.

True Christians legislate moral laws, laws based on God's Word, it doesn't matter what gender you are.


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"Behaviors that put you at risk for HIV include having vaginal or anal sex without a condom or without being on medicines that prevent or treat HIV, or sharing injection drug equipment with someone who has HIV. If you answer yes to any of the following questions, you should definitely get an HIV test:
Have you had sex with someone who is HIV-positive or whose status you didn’t know since your last HIV test?
Have you injected drugs (including steroids, hormones, or silicone) and shared equipment (or works, such as needles and syringes) with others?
Have you exchanged sex for drugs or money?
Have you been diagnosed with or sought treatment for a sexually transmitted disease, like syphilis?
Have you been diagnosed with or sought treatment for hepatitis or tuberculosis (TB)?
Have you had sex with someone who could answer yes to any of the above questions or someone whose history you don’t know?

If you continue having unsafe sex or sharing injection drug equipment, you should get tested at least once a year. Sexually active gay and bisexual men may benefit from more frequent testing (e.g., every 3 to 6 months).

You should also get tested if
You have been sexually assaulted.
You are a woman who is planning to get pregnant or who is pregnant."
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/basics/testing.html

None of which discounts the fact that the CDC recommends HIV testing for all heterosexuals and has standardized HIV testing for all pregnant women.

God didn't make sexual relations between a man and woman disease ridden. The CDC was talking about black bisexual men that have had sex with black women without the women knowing that they were bisexual. That is the only tie that HIV/AIDS has with heterosexuality. (Refer to the table of contents on black males being on the "down low").


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Do the women in your church "get tested" IMJ?

As tests are ordered privately by physicians, I would hardly be privy to this information unless someone volunteered it. Would you like me to ask at our next meeting?

If your congregation is getting tested for HIV/AIDS, you better find a new pastor, as he's not spreading God's Word correctly.


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Should my wife and I "get tested" IMJ, after all, according to the CDC, having vaginal sex without a condom can be risky.

I'm not privy to the sexual habits of you or your wife. My husband and I had complete physicals for the first time in our 25 years of marriage. Our physician ordered HIV tests for us but told us we could opt out if we wished. We took the test. Big deal. Of course, you would probably see that as a measure of distrust on our parts but when our doctor tells us to do something, we usually do it, trusting in his expertise.

Wow. A simple question like "Have either of you had out of wedlock sex with a hooker, a junkie or a bisexual?" would have saved your insurance company quite a bit of money.


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I'm here to educate the uninformed.

Try doing it from a Christian perspective. After all, that's what will really get folks somewhere, unless you're not interested in that.

Righteous laws are Christian.
 

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A local article on the subject, for your edification:
Red Dirt Report: Public Opinion Shift Same-Sex Marriage

Yes, as seen in this thread and throughout TOL (a conservative Christian website), those that speak out against homosexuality are definitely in the minority.

From your article:

In the 1970’s and 1980’s, leaders within the LGBT community encouraged homosexuals to “come out.” ...

Why do you think that the sodomites on TOL are afraid to "come out" Buzzword, after all, it was hip to do so 35 years ago.
 

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You are losing your touch aCW. This thread is becoming boring. Perhaps you need to do more field work?
 
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