Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! Part 3

[resurrected]

Who actually is "normal", you?
At least in their own relative version of righteousness there does not have to be anyone else's imaginary supernatural beings involved, replete with a supposed and imaginary "righteousness".lain:

congratulations al - expect your "argument" to be used in the future by pedophlies

 

[GFR7]

Quote:
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
Then defeating a movement (that has just over 2% of the population who engage in homosexual behavior) by legislating righteous laws shouldn't be that difficult should it GFR7?



A well educated majority. If America knew the truth behind this disease ridden behavior with a child molesting agenda, they'd do something about it.



Same sex 'marriage' will be legal in EVERY state in the next few years (if not sooner). What will you and Brian Brown do after that happens?



Then why do you spend all of your time starting numerous threads talking about homosexuality if nothing can be done about it?

(I just love exposing this homosexualist fraud, here's how he'll 'fight' the homosexual movement: http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3977178&postcount=794).

Right :BRAVO: :BRAVO:

Why was the public not educated back in the '80s and '90s, when the opposition was small, and the playing field wide open? Why???

When on earth did I ever say that one is to stop fighting, and that "nothing can be done about it"??? :think: Are you incapable of thinking except in terms of black and white?

Plenty can be done, and Brian Brown has vowed to never stop fighting (he has a 20 year plan).

Andy why did you not do something sooner? You knew Lawrence v TX was coming up - why did you do nothing?

 

[GFR7]

congratulations al - expect your "argument" to be used in the future by pedophlies

It already is. There is a Dutch Pedophilia club which is trying to get parliament to protect it.

Dutch Court Says Pedophile Club Cannot Be Outlawed

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/martijn-pedophile-club-is-not-illegal-2013-4#ixzz38gMjdEi3

 

[GFR7]

Speaking of Brian Brown of NOM: How embarrassing it was to read the transcript of his "dinner debate" with Thavage.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/johnsho...he-transcript/

I am curious to hear your thoughts on why you believe Brown handled this opportunity badly? :think:

I watched it when it was live, and sent him an email congratulations at the end,
because I felt he came off beautifully, and that his arguments and scholarship were sound (on the video, he looked patriarchal,
while Savage looked adolescent.) :think:

 

[GFR7]

(I just love exposing this homosexualist fraud, here's how he'll 'fight' the homosexual movement: http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3977178&postcount=794).

You'd do well to consider how far a program like that would serve to make a formerly powerful lobby begin to wither and go out of fashion with the general public. My way can actually work; you way would result in a massive, massive backlash. And why do you never answer this question? Why did warriors like you not do your work when the public was still on your side, when the opposition was small, and you had an open road ahead of you? Why did you allow this to happen?

Could it be because the 2% has a big, fat, massive liberal following, including the APA, AMA, and federal judges, plus numerous politicians and wealthy corporate CEOS? :jawdrop:

Where were you when he was taking trains all over Europe, and flying around the US?
Who but he knew that "the wind was southernly"?
And that you were "north by northwest"? (Well you were, so admit it. You know you had to have been. Right? :think:
there can be no other explanation that I can see; correct me if I am in error.....)

And if I am on the side of the gays, why don't I just post always on their side, promoting and celebrating them as even many Christians do? :think:

 

[alwight]

congratulations al - expect your "argument" to be used in the future by pedophlies

Face it, like it or not the best morality we have is society's collective relative one, which probably isn't so bad really.
Supposing an absolute objective morality exists somehow is just another relative opinion unless your God happens to de-cloak and put in a personal appearance.
Should paedophiles ever became the majority then they probably wouldn't need to have an argument, but fortunately that doesn't seem any more likely imo than your Godly morality being true.

 

[resurrected]

Face it, like it or not the best morality we have is society's collective relative one, which probably isn't so bad really.

:doh:

 

[GFR7]

And a C Warrior:

What do you see here?
LaBarbera cannot even get his opening paragraph spoken at a middle class college. Look what they do to him- would such ever adhere to righteous laws? There would be massive civil disobedience.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxxMiyhxXzo

 

[Balerion the Black]

Yeah, you and culturewarrior are going on my ignore list. I'm done.

Ignoring a problem doesn't make it go away.

 

[Balerion the Black]

And a C Warrior:

What do you see here?
LaBarbera cannot even get his opening paragraph spoken at a middle class college. Look what they do to him- would such ever adhere to righteous laws? There would be massive civil disobedience.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxxMiyhxXzo

They were making a statement. Last I checked, we still have freedom of speech in this country.

You are right about one thing though - the majority of the country would not meekly submit to theocratic rule. There would be MASSIVE resistance, and likely bloodshed. Look what happened when they tried to completely ban alcohol in this country - and that didn't impact every single area of everyone's life like an attempt at the institution of biblical rule over this country would.

 

[GFR7]

They were making a statement. Last I checked, we still have freedom of speech in this country.

You are right about one thing though - the majority of the country would not meekly submit to theocratic rule. There would be MASSIVE resistance, and likely bloodshed. Look what happened when they tried to completely ban alcohol in this country - and that didn't impact every single area of everyone's life like an attempt at the institution of biblical rule over this country would.

Yes, they do have a right to make a public statement (although if I myself wanted to oppose LaBarbera, I would hear him out, and then stand up and give a lengthy retort.)

And of course in a country in which pluralism and liberty are paramount (or espoused) to suddenly make illegal what has steadily been making massive advances for 40 + years would look like science fiction. In order to happen, America would have to vanish. This is why I keep asking aCW where he and his were the past 4 decades, when it would have been far, far easier to prevent the crisis than to deal with it when it is now set in stone.

 

[IMJerusha]

first the bible lists about 150 abominations most if not all of which modern Christians don't give two cents about.

That depends on the translation however, it's unimportant whether we agree with God. It's important if we are obedient to Him.

Second there is no such thing as a "gay lifestyle" than there is a black lifestyle

I think you should take that up with the gay community as well as the black community.

 

[IMJerusha]

are you being persecuted?

Personally?...I have been, yes. Members of my family have been, yes.
Christian friends of mine have been, yes.

 

[IMJerusha]

you rail against he sin of gays but you have no problem presenting false witness

There's nothing false in my statement. I'm not "railing" at all. There's absolutely nothing bitter about my statements or my attitude toward homosexuals.

 

[IMJerusha]

That term covers a wide spectrum. Those who are socialists, for illegal immigration and pro recreational drug legalization fit into that category as well. As my signature shows, the term sexual anarchy is quite descriptive.

Sin is sin.

One battle at a time has to be fought in this culture war.

We're not in a culture war. We're in a war against evil.

Concentrate on the one that is currently being fought, not those that have already been lost.

If we keep our focus on our witness and the spread of the Gospel, all aspects of evil will be fought.

Also keep in mind that one not need believe in God to acknowledge that homosexuality is a not only a pubic health issue, but a threat to innocent children and our society's most valuable institutions (those who are secular can become allies of believers in this culture war).

Again, it's not a culture war and there are many secular folk who are good, who live good lives despite not being believers. Even non believers understand the difference between right and wrong, good and evil.

If you're a junky, a hooker or have sex with a bisexual male, you have to worry about AIDS. Other than that, AIDS is pretty much a homosexual disease.

I don't believe that is a correct statement or AIDS testing would not be standard for pregnant women and the CDC would not recommend it for annual physicals.

 

[Balerion the Black]

Yes, they do have a right to make a public statement (although if I myself wanted to oppose LaBarbera, I would hear him out, and then stand up and give a lengthy retort.)

And of course in a country in which pluralism and liberty are paramount (or espoused) to suddenly make illegal what has steadily been making massive advances for 40 + years would look like science fiction. In order to happen, America would have to vanish. This is why I keep asking aCW where he and his were the past 4 decades, when it would have been far, far easier to prevent the crisis than to deal with it when it is now set in stone.

Probably trying to stomp out the civil rights movement. And likely being so nasty about it that more people were won over to the other side.

People like aCW have been on the wrong side of progress every single time:

They were opposed to the abolition of slavery. They lost.

They were opposed to granting blacks the right to vote. They lost.

They were opposed to granting women the right to vote. They lost.

They were opposed to labor unions, workplace safety laws, minimum wage, the 40 hour work week, and social security. They lost.

They were opposed to the civil rights movement and the ending of segregation and Jim Crow. They lost.

They are opposed to marriage equality for same-sex couples, and they are losing this fight as well.

Perhaps aCW will also get to see his side lose the fight on marijuana prohibition as well.

 

[Heterodoxical]

Sammy, I know that you're out there. I need to know what you meant when you told the Jr. Libertarian that you agree with that nutcase Libertarian for life who doesn't even think that homosexuality is a sin.

:-|

Show me ANYWHERE in the Bible it says homosexuality is a sin? It doesn't exist.

It does say homosexual sex is a sin. But not homosexuality.

Back up your claims ya ignerunt wretch.

 

[Heterodoxical]

Sin is sin.



We're not in a culture war. We're in a war against evil.



If we keep our focus on our witness and the spread of the Gospel, all aspects of evil will be fought.



Again, it's not a culture war and there are many secular folk who are good, who live good lives despite not being believers. Even non believers understand the difference between right and wrong, good and evil.



I don't believe that is a correct statement or AIDS testing would not be standard for pregnant women and the CDC would not recommend it for annual physicals.

Evil has become the Church in America. And it's too stubborn to admit to it so it can change.


On LGBT marriage, it's quite literally ANTI CHRIST in it's teachings.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3986369&postcount=1122

Why was the public not educated back in the '80s and '90s, when the opposition was small, and the playing field wide open? Why???

You've been a student of various Christian conservatives like Peter LaBarbera and Brian Camenker of Massresistance for 8 years, and you don't know the answer? Look at part 1, it goes into detail.

When on earth did I ever say that one is to stop fighting, and that "nothing can be done about it"??? :think: Are you incapable of thinking except in terms of black and white?

You have an impressive "battle plan" GFR7:

Originally Posted by GFR7

Well, after encountering a certain extremist mindset of a particular poster here -whose explosion terrified me and taught me a lesson - I am now convinced that a gradual counter-educational movement is the answer.

1.. There can be LGBTQ taught in schools, but there must be a counter-teaching just as available and just as strong.

2. People have a right to ban reparative therapy, but a counter-movement has a right to promote it and to fight to repeal those bans.

3. Some Christian Churches want to accept gays, but there must be prominent groups who refuse to do so.

4. Media and entertainment can promote gays, but there must be strong media and film venues which are allowed to show the opposing side.

5. Rules to protect minors must be enforced (vis a vis certain displays at Pride displays) without ruling out the parades altogether.
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3977178&postcount=794

Plenty can be done, and Brian Brown has vowed to never stop fighting (he has a 20 year plan).

Once sodomite 'marriage' is legal in every US State, what is Brown going to do next, fight against polygamy? How about all of the other invaluable institutions that the homosexual movement has permeated, what does Brian Brown have planned for those?

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Quote:
Originally Posted by a Christian Warrior
Speaking of Brian Brown of NOM: How embarrassing it was to read the transcript of his "dinner debate" with Thavage.

I am curious to hear your thoughts on why you believe Brown handled this opportunity badly? :think:

I watched it when it was live, and sent him an email congratulations at the end,
because I felt he came off beautifully, and that his arguments and scholarship were sound (on the video, he looked patriarchal,
while Savage looked adolescent.) :think:

First of all: don't alter my username.

Brian Brown, the President and co-founder of the National Organization of Marriage, went into the home of one of the sickest perverts known to mankind (Dan Savage) and not only dined and laughed with him, but debated him on various topics that were irrelevant to homosexuality.

To my knowledge, pro lifers have never met with pro abortionists and debated, why would Brown lower himself and give a certain amount of validity to a pervert like Dan Savage?

If Brown really wanted to destroy Savage and his message, all he would have had to have done is to show the disease that runs rampant amongst those that engage in homosexual behavior. Brown then could have put the final nail in the proverbial coffin by showing how the homosexual movement (Dan Savage included) indoctrinate innocent children to accept homosexuality as something normal.

So needless to say, Brian Brown of NOM isn't someone that should be fighting this aspect of the culture war.