why do liberals ALWAYS take the side of the vile?

[aikido7]

Fortunately for our country, it doesn't matter what the Bible says about voting.

Christian biblical scholars always vote on which translation they approve of.
It's how they reach a consensus.

The church fathers voted for the Roman Empire in the 4th century.
The King James panel voted for different translations. Sometimes in older Bibles there are footnotes at the bottom that list alternative translations for Scripture.

 

[Arthur Brain]

Yes.
Someone who buys has made a commitment to be part of a community for an extended period of time.
Someone who rents is only looking at being part of the community for a limited time.

So only people who make a long term commitment to live in a certain city/state/town etc should be allowed a voice where it comes to a say in political proceedings? Your arrogance matches your ignorance as plenty of people rent properties for 'extended periods of time' also and you seem unable to grasp your inherent snobbery with such a position - or you're either intent on trying to deflect away from it.

It took you long enough to realize that.
:chuckle:

I'd known it long before I posted but you keep chuckling to yourself as if you made a point. You've made enough of a crank of yourself on here as it is.

 

[genuineoriginal]

So only people who make a long term commitment to live in a certain city/state/town etc should be allowed a voice where it comes to a say in political proceedings?

Yes.

Your arrogance matches your ignorance as plenty of people rent properties for 'extended periods of time' also and you seem unable to grasp your inherent snobbery with such a position - or you're either intent on trying to deflect away from it.

Is it a typical liberal tactic to deflect reasonable discussions with allegations of "snobbery"?

 

[Arthur Brain]

Yes.

Well thankfully you don't get to deprive people of such based on your own elitist views.

Is it a typical liberal tactic to deflect reasonable discussions with allegations of "snobbery"?

It's neither 'liberal' or a 'tactic' to point out the obvious. You've flatly stated that the poor and needy shouldn't have the right to a vote and now only property owners should be afforded such regardless of wealth. It's actually reasonable to point out the snobbery of such a position.

 

[Caledvwlch]

Christian biblical scholars always vote on which translation they approve of.
It's how they reach a consensus.

The church fathers voted for the Roman Empire in the 4th century.
The King James panel voted for different translations. Sometimes in older Bibles there are footnotes at the bottom that list alternative translations for Scripture.

Sure, but that's not the kind of voting we're talking about. If there in fact is some kind of biblical directive on people choosing their leaders, I would be interested to see it.

 

[republicanchick]

HeIn fact, the pagan enemies of the Christians said things like "It is all well and good that your Jesus is a "son of God." We get that. What we don't get is why your Jesus comes from the peasantry instead of being of royal birth."

it is still like that: the rich are fawned over, even in (especially in?) the Church, but the poor are looked down upon and ignored, even despised (probably, that is; i have no absolute proof most Christians where i hang out feel that way, but i do know some do).

yes, it's interesting that Jesus never owned a home (not such a great t hing for an itinerate preacher...), never lived in a palace. As far as we know, He never even visited anyone who lived in one of those, but in any case: it is interesting Jesus was essentially homeless, and yet people just SOOO look down on the homeless.

(which is not to ignore the fact that some are homeless due to their own amoral behavior: abuse of alcohol/drugs)

 

[genuineoriginal]

Well thankfully you don't get to deprive people of such based on your own elitist views.

Unfortunately, I don't get to empower people because they are kept deprived by your elitist views.

 

[Arthur Brain]

Unfortunately, I don't get to empower people because they are kept deprived by your elitist views.

Well that made no sense. I'm not the one advocating that non property owners should be denied the vote. There's nothing 'empowering' about that.

 

[genuineoriginal]

Well that made no sense.

Liberal elitists often complain about not being able to understand common sense.

 

[Arthur Brain]

Liberal elitists often complain about not being able to understand common sense.

The only elitist around here is you as I don't see anyone else wanting to disenfranchise other people based on property status, do you? If I were advocating for voting limitations then you would have a point but I don't. I even think snobby insipid cranks like yourself should have the right to a voice.

 

[The Barbarian]

yes, it's interesting that Jesus never owned a home (not such a great t hing for an itinerate preacher...), never lived in a palace. As far as we know, He never even visited anyone who lived in one of those

Pontius Pilate

 

[republicanchick]

Pontius Pilate

yeh, i will bet Jesus was really enjoying THAT visit..


+

 

[Granite]

Yes.


Is it a typical liberal tactic to deflect reasonable discussions with allegations of "snobbery"?

It's common sense when a snide little lickspittle like you comes in and decides someone who's not burdened with a mortgage doesn't deserve a ballot.:loser:

 

[jgarden]

Liberal elitists often complain about not being able to understand common sense.

Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative.
- John Stuart Mill

Stuart Mill must have had "genuineoriginal" and "republicanchick" in mind!

 

[genuineoriginal]

It's common sense when a snide little lickspittle like you comes in and decides someone who's not burdened with a mortgage doesn't deserve a ballot.:loser:

Why would YOU want anyone burdened by a mortgage?
I sure don't.
I want people to own their property, not pretend to own it while it is being owned by the banks.

 

[genuineoriginal]

Stuart Mill must have had "genuineoriginal" and "republicanchick" in mind!

John Stuart Mill sounds like a complete idiot.

 

[aikido7]

it is still like that: the rich are fawned over, even in (especially in?) the Church, but the poor are looked down upon and ignored, even despised (probably, that is; i have no absolute proof most Christians where i hang out feel that way, but i do know some do).

yes, it's interesting that Jesus never owned a home (not such a great t hing for an itinerate preacher...), never lived in a palace. As far as we know, He never even visited anyone who lived in one of those, but in any case: it is interesting Jesus was essentially homeless, and yet people just SOOO look down on the homeless.

(which is not to ignore the fact that some are homeless due to their own amoral behavior: abuse of alcohol/drugs)

Some scholars say that the reason Christianity grew so fast was because Jesus did not settle down (by himself or with his family) and do healings and festive meals with those who traveled to him.

Because he was essentially homeless and itinerant he was able to travel fairly freely and spread his teachings. Paul, too, traveled all over the Middle East and was able to preach his message to many.

Also, I have read that early Christians used what were book-like "codices" that opened easily and could be easily read. The Jewish scriptures (and other holy writings) were written on large, unwieldy
scrolls.

The scrolls were not readily shared with other groups but were often placed in safekeeping in large jars hidden away in caves or buried in the sand.

 

[aikido7]

John Stuart Mill sounds like a complete idiot.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative."

--John Stewart Mill

 

[genuineoriginal]

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative."

--John Stewart Mill

To tax the larger incomes at a higher percentage than the smaller is to lay a tax on industry and economy; to impose a penalty on people for having worked harder and saved more than their neighbours.
-- John Stuart Mill​

Spoken like a true conservative.

 

[jgarden]

John Stuart Mill sounds like a complete idiot.

The Estimated IQs of the World's Greatest Geniuses

Name - Nationality - Active as & Comments - IQs
****************************************************************************************************
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe - Germany - Poet/Writer - Universal genius - IQ 210

Emanuel Swedenborg - Sweden - Religious writer - Universal genius - IQ 205

Gottfried Wilhelm von Leibniz - Germany -Philosopher/Mathematician, etc. - the greatest universal genius together with Leonardo da Vinci - IQ 205

John Stuart Mill - England - Philosopher/Economist/Political theorist - IQ 200

Blaise Pascal - France - Mathematician/Physicist/Religious thinker - 195

Ludwig Wittgenstein - Austria - Philosopher - IQ 190

Bobby Fischer - U.S.A. - Chess player IQ 187

Galileo Galilei - Italy - Physicist/Astronomer/Philosopher - IQ 185

René Descartes - France - Philosopher/Mathematician - IQ 180

Madame De Stael - France - Woman of letters/Novelist/Political Philosopher - IQ 180

http://hem.bredband.net/b153434/Index.htm

"John Stuart Mill," whom "genuineoriginal" characterizes as "a complete idiot," ranks 4th for "The Estimated IQs of the World's Greatest Geniuses" and is widely considered to have achieved the highest IQ in the English-speaking world!

To tax the larger incomes at a higher percentage than the smaller is to lay a tax on industry and economy; to impose a penalty on people for having worked harder and saved more than their neighbours.
-- John Stuart Mill​

Spoken like a true conservative.

Now we know why Stuart Mill missed out on being ranked 1st, 2nd or 3rd!