If you have been reconciled to God by Jesus Christ, then why do you need to be predestinated?
"WHOSOEVER That Calls Upon the Name of the Lord Shall be Saved" Romans 10:13
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If you have been reconciled to God by Jesus Christ, then why do you need to be predestinated?
beloved57
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You deny that Christ death alone saved them He died for. You deny that Christ is the Saviour of the World.
You are in conflict with God's word.
Jesus has victoriously atoned for the sins of the whole world, 1 John 2:2.
beloved57
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You teach that sinners Christ died for are going to perish in their sins anyways!
Christ died for your sins, but you are going to perish because you refuse to accept his great free gift of salvation that has been provided for you by Jesus Christ.
beloved57
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Promoting salvation by works and denying salvation by the death of Christ!
The Bible plainly teaches that Jesus has atoned for the sins of the whole world, 1 John 2:2.
beloved57
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You teach that sinners Christ died for are going to perish in their sins anyways! That means you don't believe in the Saving power of Christ blood!
God provides. Its your place to receive what he has provided, John 1:12.
He does?
That is what John says in the Revelation. Those not in the book of life are tossed in the lake of fire.
He does? Where? Be glad I do not enforce the TOL rules of dialogue. Because you don't do it.
beloved57
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False statement not found in scripture!
So you believe that John 1:12 is false?
"He came into his own, and his own received him not" John 1:11. It appears that the Jews had a free will because they rejected him.
"But as many as RECEIVED HIM to them gave he the power to become the Son's of God, even to them that believe upon his Name" John 1:12.
Foolish, foolish, person that you are.
beloved57
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Since when did Jn 1:12 become your statement ?
John 1:12 is not my statement. Its God's statement. You must receive Christ as your savior or you will perish.
beloved57
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I said your comments are false, not the scripture.
Is this false?
"But as many as received him to them gave he the power to become the Sons of God" John 1:12.
flintstoned
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Predestination occurred before the foundation of the world. We wouldn't be reconciled now if we hadn't been predestined first.
No one has been predestinated. There is no scripture about anyone being predestinated to heaven or to hell.
If predestination was a true doctrine the Bible would be full of it. There is nothing about anyone being predestinated to salvation. But there are hundreds of Scriptures about believing and having faith.
flintstoned
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I didn't say anything about anyone being predestined "to heaven or hell". You just did. As the bible says, the elect were predestined to be ultimately glorified. The bible doesn't mention anything about God predestining the non-elect to hell. He doesn't have to. They easily do that on their own.
flintstoned
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