What one must do in order to be chosen for God's kingdom of heaven:

Prizebeatz1

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Thank you for your post. It seeks to take things to another level and that is refreshing. Some people do hide behind the bible.

All is lost if one simply hide behind the KJV N.T.. Indeed one will hide behind the KJV N.T. simply to promote one's own agenda. This is how false prophets and false spying unawares brethren, operate.

Fact is duality exist as the very fabric of the KJV N.T. and it must be recognized.

Matthews: 8 KJV N.T.
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

Matthews: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.


The KJV N.T. is divide into two separate sets of deliveries. One each for each of the two types of people who Jesus encountered.

This division conformed to the above, in the following two sets:

1. things for people who were given to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. These where called to follow Jesus. They were told privately about the Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Jesus who brings All Truth.

2. things for people who were not given to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. These were parables. Most of the KJV N.T. are parables. These were given only for 'the dead', who inevitably bury their counterparts.

Christians are believers. They are different from 'the dead'. They follow Jesus.

Therefore none of the O.T. is for believers/Christians and most of the written KJV N.T. is not for believers/Christians. Believers/Christians get all their information and guidance directly and intuitively (through each of their own heart or spirit) from the Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Jesus.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God. (the will of God is literally the Holy Spirit)


Any one who wants to use the scriptures must understand and make this separation. Then quote and use each set of scriptures appropriately on the appropriate people. The letters (the written scriptures) are for the dead and they killeth. The Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Jesus bring All Truth and gives eternal life and it is for the spiritually aware (the born again).

The KJV N.T. is divided into two separate sets of deliveries. Duality prevails. For example:

Romans: 3 King James Version (KJV)
19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.


Clearly Moses law does not apply to 'believers' (Christians):

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Acts: 13 King James Version (KJV)
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.


People who hide behind scriptures so as to deny the above are very bad people, in many ways:

Galatians 2:
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage
(under Moses law)

The above is a serious sin that traditional Christian practice daily and routinely. This is denial and blasphemy of the Spirit. This is the one transgression that is not forgivable at any place or time.

Matthews:12 KJV N.T.
31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.


The following confirms 'bondage' (in the above) is to be tricked into being under Moses law and so be denied the God given freedom, liberty and justification that Christians/believers have to transgress Moses law, so as serve in the newness of spirit and Spirit:

Galatians: 5 King James Version (KJV)
1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.


Only spying, unawares, evil and false brethren will trick Christians/believers into bondage under Moses law. There is absolutely no good in such a thing.

Many traditional Christian priests, pastors, evangelists, bishops, popes, elders, leaders, etc. within the very core of traditional Christianity, are functional false spying unawares brethren as described above.

The very great majority of the billion strong traditional Christians are misled, err and are not among the chosen few.

. . . this is the seriousness of the discussion at hand.

:idea: :idea: Duality disappears for one who intuits and knows the following to be a living, literal, total and stand alone truth:

Romans: 14 King James Version (KJV)
14 I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.


Duality, i.e. ideas of right and wrong and good and bad etc. are simply made-up and then esteemed by unawares (spiritually dead) humans. No such concepts exist in real or for God.

This is why Moses law is simply a schoolmaster for temporary use by the unawares, until they become spiritually aware and in Christ. Then Moses' law is totally thrown out.

Galatians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.


Only serious unaware, false spying brethren and/or false prophets who are also serious sinners will seek to return Christians (i.e. those in Christ) to bondage under Moses law.

Some interesting stuff.
 

Gurucam

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Some interesting stuff.

Thank you. The KJV N.T. is a complete work. A complete guide from duality to none-duality/enlightenment.

It is exciting that your reply is 'Some interesting stuff'. Unusual on this forum.

We are in a special time. My threads and posts are truth in the fullness of time. Now, under Grace of God, all truth will be revealed for all to know. Now nothing that was previously hidden can or will remain hidden.

The KJV N.T. contains two separate gospel as follows: One gospel that is with Moses law (for the spiritually dead until they become spiritually aware) and another gospel that is without Moses law (for the spiritually aware).

Galatians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
21 But now (i.e. since 2000 odd years ago) the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets


However this has not been truly recognized. Fact is the KJV N.T. has been commandeered, dominated and perpetually distorted, by the spiritually dead. The spiritually aware were totally marginalized.

The spiritually dead are not given to 'see' that there are two distinct gospels in the KJV N.T. They cannot 'see' beyond duality. Because of this serious limitation, they would 'see' total wisdom in Moses law because Moses law fully recognize duality (i.e. ideas of right and wrong). So they delighted in Moses law.

However they did not only 'see' total wisdom in and delight in, Moses law and be happy among themselves. They did not live and let live. Instead they also totally relegated distorted, denied, persecuted and generally crucified righteousness of God that is without the law.

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
21 But now (i.e. since 2000 odd years ago) the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets


Righteousness of God that is without the law is anchored on the Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Jesus. The Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Jesus is not the Holy Spirit who is the Spirit of the Father. The Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Jesus is the Spirit of the Son.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Acts: 13 King James Version (KJV)
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.


The Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Jesus is the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Jesus. Jesus is Lord only in this format. In his physical 'seen' and temporal son of man form, Jesus is not Lord.

1 Corinthians: 15 KJV N.T.
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.


In His current Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, format Jesus is Lord and also entitled to all things due to the Holy Spirit.

This means that denial and blasphemy of "righteousness of God that is without Moses law: is literally denial and blasphemy of the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus and this is equal to denial and blasphemy of His Father, the Holy Spirit. . . . this is the only act that is not forgivable at any place or time.

Matthews:12 KJV N.T.
31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.


Righteousness of God that is without the law is purely for spiritually aware people who can become authentic believers/Christians.

By denying and blaspheming 'righteousness of God that is without Moses law', these spiritually dead people who are traditional Christian priests, pastors, evangelists, bishops, popes, elders, leaders, etc. within the very core of traditional Christianity, effectively, literally and totally did the following:

1. they relegated distorted, denied, persecuted and generally crucified authentic Christians/believers.
2. they relegated distorted, denied, persecuted and generally crucified the Spirit 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God Lord Jesus continuously and perpetually
3. they literally committed the only sin that is not forgivable at any place and/or time.


Indeed the billion strong traditional Christians have been gravely misled. They are not Christians at all. They are of the Mosaic tradition simply masquerading as Christians. They are very seriously jeopardized.
 
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Prizebeatz1

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Thank you. The KJV N.T. is a complete work. A complete guide from duality to none-duality/enlightenment.

It is exciting that your reply is 'Some interesting stuff'. Unusual on this forum.

We are in a special time. My threads and posts are truth in the fullness of time. Now, under Grace of God, all truth will be revealed for all to know. Now nothing that was previously hidden can or will remain hidden.

The KJV N.T. contains two separate gospel as follows: One gospel that is with Moses law (for the spiritually dead until they become spiritually aware) and another gospel that is without Moses law (for the spiritually aware).

Galatians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
21 But now (i.e. since 2000 odd years ago) the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets


However this has not been truly recognized. Fact is the KJV N.T. has been commandeered, dominated and perpetually distorted, by the spiritually dead. The spiritually aware were totally marginalized.

The spiritually dead are not given to 'see' that there are two distinct gospels in the KJV N.T. They cannot 'see' beyond duality. Because of this serious limitation, they would 'see' total wisdom in Moses law because Moses law fully recognize duality (i.e. ideas of right and wrong). So they delighted in Moses law.

However they did not only 'see' total wisdom in and delight in, Moses law and be happy among themselves. They did not live and let live. Instead they also totally relegated distorted, denied, persecuted and generally crucified righteousness of God that is without the law.

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
21 But now (i.e. since 2000 odd years ago) the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets


Righteousness of God that is without the law is anchored on the Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Jesus. The Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Jesus is not the Holy Spirit who is the Spirit of the Father. The Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Jesus is the Spirit of the Son.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Acts: 13 King James Version (KJV)
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.


The Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Jesus is the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Jesus. Jesus is Lord only in this format. In his physical 'seen' and temporal son of man form, Jesus is not Lord.

1 Corinthians: 15 KJV N.T.
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.


In His current Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, format Jesus is Lord and also entitled to all things due to the Holy Spirit.

This means that denial and blasphemy of "righteousness of God that is without Moses law: is literally denial and blasphemy of the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus and this is equal to denial and blasphemy of His Father, the Holy Spirit. . . . this is the only act that is not forgivable at any place or time.

Matthews:12 KJV N.T.
31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.


Righteousness of God that is without the law is purely for spiritually aware people who can become authentic believers/Christians.

By denying and blaspheming 'righteousness of God that is without Moses law', these spiritually dead people who are traditional Christian priests, pastors, evangelists, bishops, popes, elders, leaders, etc. within the very core of traditional Christianity, effectively, literally and totally did the following:

1. they relegated distorted, denied, persecuted and generally crucified authentic Christians/believers.
2. they relegated distorted, denied, persecuted and generally crucified the Spirit 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God Lord Jesus continuously and perpetually
3. they literally committed the only sin that is not forgivable at any place and/or time.


Indeed the billion strong traditional Christians are not Christians at all. They are of the Mosaic tradition simply masquerading as Christians. They are very seriously jeopardized.

Lots of truth here. Most people don't know any better. They're threatened with hellfire if they even think about challenging what they've been taught. That conditioning is not easy to overcome because it's implanted in us when we are very young and it lingers as an unconscious wound that often affects us well into adulthood. There is no fear in God but most don't question where fear comes from. There's too much peer pressure not to make the authorities wrong and way too much pride in the need to uphold an identity of being a good Christian for example. These are replacements for the genuine self-worth that comes from the Christ within. The substitutes don't work because the Christ within is universal and always present and the self-worth of the personality depends on time, events, circumstances, situations, actions, beliefs, etc. Anyway, I think you are doing well to share your viewpoints and offer another perspective. Another way to see things is refreshing when it sheds light on what is hidden behind the scenes. Thanks for your input.
 

Prizebeatz1

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Prizebeats would enjoy Apocrypha

Why do you care so much about what I would enjoy? Why not find God in your own soul instead of distracting yourself? The truth is that you really do not want to find God. You'd rather uphold the false identity of the personality because you are unconsciously proud. You like the pleasure of biting the forbidden fruit because it makes you feel better about your lack of control and lack of self-worth. To feel those deficiencies in their entirety would be too much to bear because you don't think you are good enough to survive through the turmoil. You lack true self-worth and try to compensate with all kinds of things that don't work in the long run. It's easier and more convenient to simply bury this out of sight so you don't have to deal with it. You settle for shallow replacements of real self-esteem. You are trading your soul for some piss poor version of a defunct back up quarterback. What profits a man if he gains the world yet forfeits his own soul?
 

Gurucam

Well-known member
Lots of truth here. Most people don't know any better. They're threatened with hellfire if they even think about challenging what they've been taught. That conditioning is not easy to overcome because it's implanted in us when we are very young and it lingers as an unconscious wound that often affects us well into adulthood. There is no fear in God but most don't question where fear comes from. There's too much peer pressure not to make the authorities wrong and way too much pride in the need to uphold an identity of being a good Christian for example. These are replacements for the genuine self-worth that comes from the Christ within. The substitutes don't work because the Christ within is universal and always present and the self-worth of the personality depends on time, events, circumstances, situations, actions, beliefs, etc. Anyway, I think you are doing well to share your viewpoints and offer another perspective. Another way to see things is refreshing when it sheds light on what is hidden behind the scenes. Thanks for your input.

Thank you brother. . . . you are indeed an awakened one.
 
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Gurucam

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the unfortunate antichrist state of patrick jane as confirmed by the KJV N.T. .1 :

the unfortunate antichrist state of patrick jane as confirmed by the KJV N.T. .1 :

Prizebeats would enjoy Apocrypha

Notice that Patrick jane is an advocate for the ideas which rule over the billion strong traditional Christians. These, billion or so people, cannot be the chosen few. These would have to be the misled masses, i.e. the masses who were misled by false prophets, err and were not chosen.

The above is not Maths/Calculus. This is a simply kindergarten sum. This is 'one and one equals two'. Please become a child again, so that you can do this kindergarten sums and so know this simple Truth and not err and so enter God's kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 18:3King James Version (KJV)
3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.


The simple kindergarten sum here, is that a billion strong traditional Christians, who are anchored on Patrick jane ideas and teachings, cannot be the few who know truth, do not err and are chosen for God's kingdom of heaven. It simply does not add up in kindergarten sums.

Patrick jane will have to confuse you using false Maths/Calculus in order to convince you that his ideas and teaching is the truth which led his followers to heaven. He will have to posture like a 'lemon used car salesman' in order sell you the idea that a billion strong is a few, i.e. chosen few.


Do not let Patrick jane use the subterfuge on you. Maths/Calculus and letters does not matter. In fact they stand in the way of you becoming, once again, a child who use simple kindergarten sums.

Do not expect the 'wisdom' held by the billion strong traditional Christians, including Patrick jane, to be wisdom at all. They, (simply by being at least a billion strong) cannot be the 'few' who have it right and therefore do not err and are the chosen few. They cannot be the few who find the straight gate and narrow way that lead to everlasting life.

This alone, raises a very serious and very big, 'red flag' over the head, body, words and deeds of patrick jane . . . if you seek eternal life, then totally exorcise him and his ideas out of your life

Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many (in this case a billion strong traditional Christians).

Matthew: 22 King James Version (KJV)
14 For many are called, but few are chosen. (few cannot be a billion strong traditional Christians)

Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Matthews: 22 KJV N.T.
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.


The days for the total dismissal of false prophets and false, unawares spying brethren are very numbered: The final judgment day (like none others before) is very close at hand. It conforms to:

Matthews: 24
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. (this speaks of a physically separation and physical dispatching of humans, to hell and heaven)

The likes of patrick jane have fooled and corralled a billion strong traditional Christians within the path to sin, death and hell and they are not prepared to let anyone out.

Matthews: 25 KJV N.T.
31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: (these are the called and chosen)

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: (these are the called but not chosen)

Everyone was warned, as follows:

Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Galatians 2:
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage (under Moses law)


. . . beware of patrick jane . . . a blind and unawares defender of the Old outdated status-quo that is anchored on the Old flawed covenant of sin and death and other related philosophies.

Hebrews:8 KJV N.T.
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.


Fear not Apocrypha. Indeed fear no written works. However fear the Apocalypse which inevitably befalls the many and not at all the chosen few.

. . . indeed fear denial and blasphemy of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus which gives one freedom to transgress Moses law, i.e. the law of sin and death.

. . . fear the ideas and teaching of patrick jane. His ideas are no more than goat-milk. His relevance has passed and his days are numbered. We are in the age of sheep-meat. The following still applied to and defines, Patrick jane:

1 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
1 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
3 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?


The Old is dying every where to give way to the New. The rule of goats on the surface of earth, has ended, their time and relevance passed. Now earth's surface is under the rule of sheep.

Embrace and adapt the ways of sheep or go the way of goats. . . . it is your 'free will' choice.

Patrick jane is an advocate for the teachings and ways of goats. If you follow the teaching and way of goats, expect Jesus to say to you: Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels.

This is simple kindergarten sums.

Simply be converted, and become as little children. That is, you must and will drop your learn techniques of a lemon used car salesman. By becoming a child again, you will regain your innocent capability to do simple kindergarten sums. Then you will accurately discern truth, like the one above. Then when you are led by truth, ye shall enter into the kingdom of heaven.

 
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Gurucam

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the unfortunate antichrist state of patrick jane , as confirmed by the KJV N.T. . 2:

the unfortunate antichrist state of patrick jane , as confirmed by the KJV N.T. . 2:

Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Galatians 2:
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage (under Moses law)


The likes of patrick jane (who esteem, use, promote and invoke Moses' law) have fooled and corralled a billion strong traditional Christians within the path to sin, death and hell and they are not prepared to let anyone out.

They are bounty hunters for Satan. They put people under Moses law and pretend to be kind and good. And indeed, those who are kept under Moses law, are doomed. Their end is singular and clear. They inevitably sin, die spiritually and end in hell, inside the earth, with and under Satan:

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Romans: 6 KJVN.T.
23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

The gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord Is anchored on:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.


Those who esteem, use, promote and/or invoke Moses law in the least way have not embraced and/or adopted, the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus which makes one free from Moses' law. They all sin and fall short of the glory of God. They all sin, remain spiritually dead and end in hell, within the depths of earth with and under Satan.

These bounty hunters for Satan are humans who, like Jesus, were also tempted according to:

Matthews: 4 KJV N.T.
8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;


These bounty hunters for Satan could not or did not, resist the above temptation. They succumb. They choose to serve the Satanic status quo. They became bounty hunters for Satan. They fed on unsuspecting aspiring Christians who were called to Christianity. These bounty hunters for Satan came among, unsuspecting aspiring Christians who were called to Christianity. They came as spies and return unsuspecting aspiring Christians who were called to Christianity, to bondage under Moses law. They are the false brethren, mentioned in:

Galatians 2:
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage (under Moses law)


. . . the time to awaken (to truth) is now.
 
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Gurucam

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the unfortunate antichrist state of patrick jane, as confirmed by the KJV N.T.. . 3

the unfortunate antichrist state of patrick jane, as confirmed by the KJV N.T.. . 3

Matthew 18 King James Version (KJV)
3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.


Simply be converted, and become as little children. That is, you must and will drop your learn techniques of a lemon used car salesman. By becoming a child again, you will regain your innocent capability to do simple kindergarten sums. Then you will accurately discern truth, in scriptures. Then when you are led by truth, ye shall enter into the kingdom of heaven.

The following are simple (one plus one equals two) kindergarten truths:


Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Galatians 2:
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage (under Moses law)


Do you realize that false spying unawares O.T. brethren, who come among Christians (N.T. people) are the false prophets who rise and misled many. Do you realize that they use the techniques of 'lemon used car salesman' to return Christians to bondage under Moses' law.

The following is the simple (one plus one equals two kindergarten) commandment for Christians/Believers:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Acts: 13 King James Version (KJV)
39 And by him all that believe (believers) are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

1 Corinthians: 15 KJV N.T.
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

2 Corinthians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
17 Now (i.e. since 2000 odd years ago) the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
21 But now (i.e. since 2000 odd years ago) the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets


Only an antichrist operative will seek to return Christians and those called to Christianity to bondage under Moses law.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.


God given freedom, liberty and justification to transgress Moses law apples not only to the few who are chosen. It applies to all the billion or so who are called to be Christians.

False prophets and false spying unawares brethren like, patrick jane, are literally Antichrist operatives who have been destroying the billion or so people who were called to Christianity.

Operating with the techniques of 'lemon used car salesmen', they routinely and conveniently distort and corrupt scriptures. They did and continue to do this, so that they could and did, return the billion strong traditional Christians to bondage under Moses law and so derailing them, from heaven to hell with Satan.

Clearly they are bounty hunters for Satan. They are the most cruel, treacherous and dangerous kind, because they come to the billion strong traditional Christian as brethren. However they were and are false spying unaware brethren. Their aim is to derail aspiring Christian from their path to heaven and redirect them to hell with Satan, by returning them to bondage under Moses law.

Galatians 2:
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage (under Moses law)


To achieve their end, they totally and deliberately corrupt the following simple kindergarten truths:

Galatians: 5 KJV N.T.
18 But if you are being led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law.

Galatians: 5 King James Version (KJV)
1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.


Because of patrick jane and the likes, serious and terminal foolishness prevails among the billion strong traditional Christians. Traditional Christianity is corruptly anchored on Moses law . . . a la the likes of patrick jane and other antichrist 'closet' operatives who are actually 'any which way' recruiters for Satan.

. . . the above truths will not pass away, they will only become increasingly more profoundly known (either by spoken words and/or spiritually, through intuitions) to all, as God's kingdom of heaven increasingly form on the surface of earth, now in the fullness of time.

. . . awaken to these truths now, before too late is your cry.

patrick jane and the likes are a 'done with' and dying breed. Their corrupt time is ended. Do not go 'down under' with them. Leave them alone peacefully. They are on the left side of the King Jesus. The King Jesus will deal very appropriately with them, on His terms.

You might have been fooled into believing that there will be no vengeance, . . . for patrick jane and the likes also promote that all is saved and there will be no vengeance. This is another falsehood which they project onto traditional Christians. The following clears that up:


Romans: 12 King James Version (KJV)
19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.


Christians/believers do not seek their own vengeance, neither do they go to or participate in, wars.

You must quietly and peacefully, leave patrick jane and the likes alone, and quietly and peacefully move to the right of the King, Jesus, now before to late is the cry.


The division will conform to the following, very real judgment and reward or punishment:


Matthews: 25 KJV N.T.
31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: (these are the called and chosen)

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: (these are the called but not chosen)
 
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Christianity, as little children discern it.

Christianity, as little children discern it.

Matthew 18 King James Version (KJV)
3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Little children take every thing simply on face value. They apply no antics of lemon used car salesmen. Little children do not interpret, reinterpret and corrupt revelations until they get revelations to say what they want it to say:

John: 16 KJV N.T.
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.


The above confirms that when Jesus was in a physical body on earth, he did not reveal All Truth to his disciples. Jesus went away by crucifixion and rising to heaven so that the Spirit of Truth can come and bring All Truth. Therefore the Spirit of Truth which bring All Truth was made available only after Jesus Christ was crucified and rose to heaven. Also the messages which the physical Jesus left, as recorded in the KJV N.T., is totally far from complete.

It is confirmed that:

1 Corinthians: 15 KJV N.T.
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.


This tells us that there are two forms of Jesus:
1. one is a man from earth and he is earthly
2. the other is the Lord from heaven and He is Spiritual.

The first man is the physical, 'seen' and temporal, son of man, Jesus and he is not lord. The second man is the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Jesus. This is the Lord.

We are also told that:


John: 14 King James Version (KJV)
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


Therefore the Spirit of Truth mentioned in John: 16 verse: 13 KJV N.T., above, is literally the Spirit of Jesus. This is the Jesus who rose to heaven clad only in His Spiritual body.

It is confirmed that:


2 Corinthians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
17 Now (since 2000 odd years ago) the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.


We are also told:

John: 4 King James Version (KJV)
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.


The above confirms that God is a Spirit, the Holy Spirit. The Spirit of the Father. The Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal Son of God, Lord Jesus is another spirit. He is the Spirit of the Son. He is the Spirit of Truth who is also the Spirit of Intercession. In this format the Lord Jesus intercedes between Saints (according to things in their individual hearts or spirits) and the Holy Spirit.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God. (the will of God is literally the Holy Spirit)


Therefore All Truth will not be found in the written scriptures. Each person have to get All Truth directly from the Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Jesus by going through each of their own hearts or spirit.

As far as revelations in the KJV N.T. goes, Paul is the only one who communed with the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God Lord Jesus. This was done on the road to Damascus. And indeed Paul got All Truth. However what Paul got was All Truth which pertained to only him. The Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Jesus must bring All truth to each person, privately and individually, through each of their own heart or spirit.

All Truth is precisely individualized. It is unique for each person. It is precisely what the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God Lord Jesus wants each Saint to know, pray for, say and do. This defines the mission in the body of Christ which each Saint is given. Each person (Saint) has to discern this privately and individually through each of their own individual hearts or spirit as follows:


Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God. (the will of God is literally the Holy Spirit)


The above is the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus which makes one free from the law of sin and death. This is the New Christian covenant which dismisses and relegates Moses law, the Old flawed covenant.

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
21 But now (i.e. since 2000 odd years ago) the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Hebrews: 8 KJV N.T.
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.


The above defines the New covenant which anchors Christianity. Christianity is totally spirit, Spirit and Spirit based. Christianity has absolutely nothing to do with the old flawed covenant, the O.T., written scriptures and/or Moses law.

Clearly those who are worshiping and esteeming the physical, 'seen' and temporal, son of man Jesus is not worshiping and esteeming, the Lord. They have missed the 'boat'. They are not Christians. They are not even called to be Christian, far less to among the chosen few. They are lost. They are on the left side of the King, Lord Jesus:


1 Corinthians: 15 KJV N.T.
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.


The division will conform to the following, very real judgment and reward or punishment:

Matthews: 25 KJV N.T.
31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: (these are the called and chosen)

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: (these are the called but not chosen)
 
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To bring simple kindergarten Christian truth on board we fight as follows:

To bring simple kindergarten Christian truth on board we fight as follows:

To bring simple kindergarten Christian truth on board we fight as follows:

Ephesians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.


Matthew: 16 King James Version (KJV)
23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

1 Corinthians: 2 KJV N.T.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.


Peter was a natural man who could not and did not, discern the things of the Spirit of God. This defined him as Satan. Peter's commission/church, as given by the Jesus, was Satanic not Christian:

1 Corinthians: 5 King James Version (KJV)
5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.


However for the past 2000 odd years Peter & Co were the ruling status quo who dominated what passed for Christianity, on earth. For the past 2000 odd years, Satanic Peter & Co. determined the ideas which ruled over the billion strong traditional Christians. They literally corrupted and destroyed the billion or so people who were called to Christianity.

Now, in order to bring forth the slightest Christian truth, we have to fight the likes of Patrick jane who represent the Satanic ruling status quo who are principalities, powers and the rulers of the darkness of this world who practice spiritual wickedness in high places

Prizebeats would enjoy Apocrypha

Notice that Patrick jane is an advocate for the ideas which rule over the billion strong traditional Christians. These, billion or so people, cannot be the chosen few. These would have to be the misled masses, i.e. the masses who were misled by false prophets, err and were not chosen.

The enemies of Christianity are being identified now, in the fullness of time, with child like kindergarten (simple one plus one equals two) sums, for all to know.

1 Corinthians: 1 King James Version (KJV)
27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

1 Corinthians: 2 KJV N.T.
10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.


1 Corinthians: 1 King James Version (KJV)
18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?


 
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These posts define the path to non duality/Enlightenment in Christ.

These posts define the path to non duality/Enlightenment in Christ.

The above posts defined the path to non duality/Enlightenment in Christ. That is, the foregone posts defined how to become authentic Christians. Added confirmation is given by:

1. Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

2. Acts: 13 King James Version (KJV)
39 And by him all that believe (believers) are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

3. Galatians: 5 KJV N.T.
18 But if you are being led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law.

4. 2 Corinthians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
17 Now (since 2000 odd years ago) the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.


5. Galatians: 5 King James Version (KJV)
1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.


6. Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.


God given freedom, liberty and justification to transgress Moses law apples not only to the few who are chosen. It applies to all the billion or so who are called to be Christians.

False brethren have been destroying the chances of a billion strong traditional Christians, by promoting that Moses law is part of Christianity and so effectively and corruptly keeping a billion strong traditional Christians in bondage, under Moses law:

7. Galatians 2:
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage (under Moses law)


'Bondage' in the above revelation, refers to bondage under Moses' law:

8. Galatians: 5 King James Version (KJV)
1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.


Examine the sheep (Christians). Most leaders of and in, the billion strong traditional Christianity are ravening wolves (active antichrist recruiters for Satan) in sheep (Christian) clothing. :

9. Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

10. Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:

11. Matthews: 24 KJV N.T.
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

12. Matthews: 22 KJV N.T.
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, You do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.


13. Matthew: 22 King James Version (KJV)
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

Sad indeed is the corrupt state of the billion strong traditional Christians, at this critical time.

. . . And 'boldface' men and women continue, unabated, to do their cruel and corrupt works on the billion strong unsuspecting traditional Christians, so as to continue to live high off the 'Satanic hog'.

Bold face men and women have denied the billion strong traditional Christians, who are called to Christianity, the straight gate and narrow way that leadeth to life eternal.

14. Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.


My threads and posts are:

15. Mark: 1 KJV N.T.
3 The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.


How many more literal KJV N.T. revelations do you need?
 
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Ephesians: 1 King James Version (KJV)
10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:

Daniel: 12 King James Version (KJV)
9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

The time is at hand:

Colossians: 1 King James Version (KJV)
26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints

(Saints have been around for the past 2000 odd years. They know all things. However they are few, the chosen few . . . and the time for sharing 'things that have been hid from ages and from generations' is only now at hand. These things (that have been hid from ages and from generations) come to Saints directly and intuitively, from the Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Jesus, only in real time (when needed).
):

1 Corinthians: 2 KJV N.T.
10 But God hath revealed them unto us (Saints) by his Spirit (now in the fullness of time): for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.


1 Corinthians: 2 KJV N.T.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Saints do spiritual discerning. They get All Truth directly from the Spirit of Truth.

John: 16 King James Version (KJV)
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

Luke: 12 King James Version (KJV)
2 For there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; neither hid, that shall not be known.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.


Saints are very few and far between. They are the chosen few. Saints are Spirit discern-ers. They are not lettered/scriptures discern-ers. They savor the things of God. They are the exact opposite of Peter/Satan who savor the things of man. Peter was and remained a natural man. Saints are spiritual beings.

Matthew: 16 King James Version (KJV)
23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

1 Corinthians: 2 KJV N.T.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.


There are absolutely no Saints in or any where near, traditional Christianity. As recorded in the KJV N.T. Paul was the only person who communed with the Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Jesus. This made Paul, the only Saint. The rest were Satanic.

The billion strong traditional Christians openly and regularly deny, blaspheme and relegated the purity of Paul and his spirit, Spirit and Spirit based commission. They openly and routinely do so . . . so as to prop-up, esteem, invoke and promote Peter's commission which savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.


The path to overcoming the strong influence of Peter & Co. who savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men is given in the KJV N.T.. It involves dropping your posturing like a lemon used car salesman and becoming as little children. Most traditional Christians are perpetually defensive. They spontaneously jump into a lemon used car salesman mode to distort authentic KJV N.T. revelations so as to prop-up their corrupt version of traditional Christianity:

Matthew: 18 King James Version (KJV)
3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.


The simple kindergarten sum here, is that a billion strong traditional Christians, who are anchored on traditional Christian teachings, cannot be the few who know truth, do not err and are chosen for God's kingdom of heaven. It simply does not add up in kindergarten sums.

Leaders and elders of traditional Christianity will have to confuse you using false Maths/Calculus in order to convince you that their ideas and teaching are the truth which led their followers to heaven.

They will have to posture like a 'lemon used car salesmen' (and they do this very well) in order sell you the idea that a billion strong is a few, i.e. chosen few.

I urge you to be converted, and become as little children. Then in simplicity, innocence and purity you will use simple, one plus one equals two, kindergarten sums and come to truth which can open the door to God's kingdom of heaven.

These false spying brethren who misled the billion strong traditional Christians are truly corrupt and brazen. They go out of their way to deny that bondage mean bondage under Moses law, in the following:

Galatians 2:
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage (under Moses law)


This is in spite of the very clear and literal statement in:

Galatians: 5 King James Version (KJV)
1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.


I am sorry to have to repeat myself, however it is critically important that you keep a 'hawk's eye' on patrick jane. He is one who tried to do and does the above.

Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.


. . . this is not foolish bantering. These are directly and precisely applicable, literal revelations from the KJV N.T.
 
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Paul (not Peter) was the vicar of Christ.

Paul (not Peter) was the vicar of Christ.

Matthew: 16 King James Version (KJV)
23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

1 Corinthians: 2 KJV N.T.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.


Peter was and remained a natural man who savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men. He could not and never did detect and/or know the things of God. He savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men. Peter remained a natural Satanic man.

Lord Jesus knew that Peter would remain Satan because He established a Satanic commission/church which was to serve Him, i.e. the Lord Jesus, as follows:

1 Corinthians: 5 King James Version (KJV)
5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.


From among them all, only Paul communed with the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus and only he got his commission from the Spirit 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus. Only Paul got the things of God which he discerned spiritually from direct and personal communion with the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus.

All others (including Peter) knew only the physical, 'seen' and temporal, son of man Jesus who was not lord.

1 Corinthians: 15 KJV N.T.
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.


From among them all, Paul and only Paul, knew Jesus after His crucifixion and rise to heaven as the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus. This and only this, was the thresh hole to becoming 'in Christ' or Christian. Christianity is totally anchored on this communion through one's own spirit and the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus.

Peter did not have this spirit to Spirit, communion with the Lord Jesus. However, Peter, who (according to Jesus) savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men, corruptly ruled over traditional Christianity. Traditional Christians became a billion strong people who savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men. They are like Peter. And indeed they bought into Peter and his Satanic ideas hook, line and sinker and became the billion strong traditional Christians who are not Christians, at all.

The billion strong traditional Christians openly and regularly deny, blaspheme and relegated the purity of Paul and his spirit, Spirit and Spirit based commission. They openly and routinely do so . . . so as to prop-up, esteem, invoke and promote Peter's commission which savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

The path to overcoming the strong, corrupt and negative influence of Peter & Co. who savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men is given in the KJV N.T.. It involves dropping your posturing like a lemon used car salesman and becoming as little children. Most traditional Christians are perpetually defensive. They spontaneously jump into a lemon used car salesman mode to distort authentic KJV N.T. revelations so as to prop-up their corrupt version of traditional Christianity:


Matthew: 18 King James Version (KJV)
3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.


With all due respect, I suggest you look into the claim that Peter was not the vicar of Christ but the vicar of Satan. Paul was the vicar of Christ.

Peter was a natural (Satanic) man who could not and did not, discern the things of the Spirit of God. This defined him as Satan. Peter's commission/church, as given by the Jesus, was Satanic not Christian:

1 Corinthians: 5 King James Version (KJV)
5 To deliver such an one unto Satan/Peter for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.


Peter was and remained Satan and his church was and is, a Satanic church, in the service of the Lord Jesus.

Jesus had two agendas:

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, (1.) Follow me; and (2.) let the dead bury their dead.


You may not be ready to face the truth, however there is no time left, for pampering.

1. 'Follow me' refers to following the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal Son of God, Lord Jesus as he is in spirit heaven. This is about following the Jesus into spirit heaven. This is about following Jesus as He is now, i.e. as the (living) Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal Son of God, Lord Jesus. In this Spirit only format Jesus can and do make intercession for Saints (Christian) with the Holy Spirit. This is a spirit to Spirit to Spirit commission.

This commission was rendered onto only Paul. In fact, on the road to Damascus. Paul demonstrated communion with the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal Son of God, Lord Jesus. This is the Christian way to know the Lord Jesus and to obtain All Truth.

John: 16 King James Version (KJV)
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

2. 'Let the dead bury their dead'. This is for the spiritually dead (i.e. those whose spirits must still be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus). These people are not awaken to their own spirits therefore they cannot discern the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal Son of God, Lord Jesus as Paul did. They cannot savourest the things that be of God. They can savourest only the things that be of men. They are under Peter/Satan commission and church.

They are under Peter's commission/church until they become spiritually aware. Then they can embrace the Christian path which Paul was able to have.


Peter's commission/church is a re-hatched of the Old Mosaic commission and church. It is the school master to the spiritually dead (the dead), until they become spiritually aware. Then they totally drop Peter and his commission and church and become Christians under Paul's commission.

Galatians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
24 Wherefore the law (and Peter's commission and church) was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.


Peter's commission and church were given for: "saving the spirits of the dead (i.e. the spiritually dead)". Peter and his commission were given for the spiritually dead to become spiritually aware, under the care of Peter & Co.. This is well defined in the following:

1 Corinthians: 5 King James Version (KJV)
5 To deliver such an one unto Satan/Peter for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.


However, under Peter & Co., Peter's commission became one where the dead are buried by their own kind. Jesus knew that Peter & Co. would corrupt and fail their particular and Jesus given, commission (which had nothing to do with actually being 'in Christ or Christian).

It is clear that Peter & Co. falsely and corruptly assumed and usurped, authority as, vicar of Christ. The appointment as vicar of Christ was bestowed solely on Paul. Paul alone had dominion of the Christian (or Christ) commission.

. . . I hope that you guys do not remain lost in corruption. There is just no time to argue foolishness.

Do not be alarmed that I seem to be the voice of one crying in the wilderness. There is away one present before the coming of the Lord Jesus. However this time around it is totally different.

John: 1 KJV N.T
23 He said, I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord, as said the prophet Isaiah.


. . . these are simply literal revelations from the KJV N.T.. If any of these are not literal revelations from the KJV N.T., they must be ignore.

However if they are all literal revelations from the KJV N.T., you will be well advised to embrace them totally and immediately.

However in order to make that assessment you have to totally adopt:

Matthew: 18 King James Version (KJV)
3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.


You will have to relearn to accept things in the KJV N.T., totally, on simple face value, like little children and not as practicing 'lemon used car salesmen'.

That is, you must stop posturing as a lemon used car salesman to sell yourself nonsense and/or corrupted things, a la Peter & Co..
 
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Gurucam

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It seems that the claim to fame for past popes is that they can, 'any which way' (even by beheading opponents), win lettered argument about the bible.

From my assessment, denial of spiritual gifts, is what the movie about Pope Joan is about. She eventually simply disappeared without a trace from Vatican history.

John: 16 King James Version (KJV)
12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.


It seem never to be about getting to truth which can save the spirits of their flock. It seems their use of scriptures, in the past, was all about twisting scriptures to empower their own made-up 'self serving', half baked' doctrines and agendas.

. . . a habit and practice which seem well entrenched among traditional Christians, up to this day.

'Pope Joan', a 2009 movie, about an English woman who disguised herself as a man. And gradually worked her way into increasingly powerful positions . . . finally ascending to the level of Pope. . . . check it out on Netflix or wherever.
 
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Gurucam

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Wong non guru, I was pointing out that Prizebeats would like it because he believes in soul development nonsense

Are you not committed to the ideas which rule over and dominate the billion strong traditional Christianity?

Like the belief that all are save by the crucifixion of Jesus? And so, All will go to heaven? And that all are children of God.

Do you hold the traditional Christian belief that one need not do any works to become a child of God and to earn salvation and deliverance into God's kingdom?

Traditional Christians hold the above beliefs.

Fact is, it is no done deal. There will be a judgment:

Hebrews: 9 King James Version (KJV)
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:


Judgment will be as follows:

Matthews: 25 KJV N.T.
31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: (these are the called and chosen)
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: (these are the called but not chosen)


Judgment will be according to what a man soweth (i.e. based on a man's works) whiles he live on earth:

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.


Soweth-ing is either flesh/Moses law oriented or Spirit oriented. The former takes one to hell and the latter takes one to heaven:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.


Seems that serious bitter disappointment is in store for the billion strong traditional Christians. They do not know or believe that they have to soweth (do works). Also they do not know or believe that they have to soweth (do works) according to the Spirit and not according to Moses law and the flesh.

Luke: 13 King James Version (KJV)
28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

(If all are saved and delivered, how come the above will happen? How come Ishmael and his generation will not be in heaven? They were born under the Mount Sinai covenant, the ten commandments.)

Galatians: 4 King James Version (KJV)
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son (i.e. Ishmael and his generation): for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman (i.e. Issac and his generation).


This sad end is about traditional Christians who have biblical expectation which are not correct. This is about people who follow the bible and have biblical expectations. This is about the billion or so who are called to Christianity. The very great majority of them, will err and not be chosen. This is not about people who are not called to be Christians and/or are of some other faith. This is about the billion strong traditional Christians. Indeed:

Matthew: 22 King James Version (KJV)
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.


Traditional Christians are so grossly and gravely misled, in so many seriously terminal ways. . . . and we have millions of false prophets actively bring more and more people, 'any which way' to the doom and curse that is traditional Christianity.

We have millions of people who do not know scriptures (the KJV N.T.) teaching traditional Christians and converting unsuspecting others to traditional Christianity. How sick and sinful is this?

Judgment is based on being correct or on erring (in one's soweth-ing). These are based on knowing scriptures and the power of God:

Matthews: 22 KJV N.T.
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.


If a billion people are in traditional Christianity and only a few are chosen, it means that the very great majority of them (i.e. all but a few) do not know scriptures and they err.

This means that the very great majority of people claiming to be Christians do not have a clue about Christianity. Also they do not have a clue about the KJV N.T. and they are not Christians. Yet most of them want to teach others something about Christianity . . . what an upside down world.

Is this not 'the dead burying their dead'. This is not following Jesus. Is this not what is on going in the billion strong traditional Christianity?

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, (1.) Follow me; and (2.) let the dead bury their dead.


. . . telly evangelists, huge 'spread out' church organizations and similar others are crushing and pauperizing their huge followings under their respective feet to make money, live 'high off the hog' and have power and real-estate.

In plain and open sight they savourest the things of man and not the things of God, like Peter did to confirm that he was Satan.


Matthew: 16 King James Version (KJV)
23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.


Don't you find that it is time to awaken grossly, widely and very diversely misguided traditional Christians to truth?

By the way . . . this is nothing personal. You are what you are, be it good, bad, indifferent, misinformed or not or a misinform-er or not. Which ever you are, that is for you to find out and know . . . not me.
 
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Prizebeatz1

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Wong non guru, I was pointing out that Prizebeats would like it because he believes in soul development nonsense

The soul is not nonsense. It is natural. It is reality. What's nonsense is believing we can separate from infinity and eternity. Is creation and human history separate from what is infinite? If you think so then get the heck out of here and return to first grade where you belong because you don't even know the basics.
 

Lon

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The soul is not nonsense. It is natural. It is reality. What's nonsense is believing we can separate from infinity and eternity. Is creation and human history separate from what is infinite? If you think so then get the heck out of here and return to first grade where you belong because you don't even know the basics.

The Bible:

Romans 8:10 But if Christ is in you, although the body is dead because of sin, the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

Ephesians 2:4,5 But because of His great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, 5made us alive with Christ, even when we were dead in our trespasses. It is by grace you have been saved!

Do you even read the thing? Why are you even on a Christian website? :idunno:
 

Prizebeatz1

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The Bible:

Romans 8:10 But if Christ is in you, although the body is dead because of sin, the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

Ephesians 2:4,5 But because of His great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, 5made us alive with Christ, even when we were dead in our trespasses. It is by grace you have been saved!

Do you even read the thing? Why are you even on a Christian website? :idunno:

Do you even interpret what you are reading or do you leave that up to someone else to do for you? I've been called to stand up and speak.
 
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