No, that's what believing is.
None.
Nope.
You will not.
But a wise elder of mine once told me: One who will not, is no better than one who cannot.
And I'm neither.
What is the Gospel?
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But a wise elder of mine once told me: One who will not, is no better than one who cannot.
And I'm neither.
Sonnet
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Is anyone's faith genuine? Is it not merely guessing in hope?
As I have posted before - I, paradoxically, sometimes pray to, and speak to, the very Jesus whom I doubt. With the image of His death on the cross (for everyone) and resurrection in mind - such praying is possible. With the confusion evidenced by this thread and elsewhere then it's not possible.
I'm sure my experience isn't unique.
Sonnet
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Perhaps I am doing it. Very slowly...
Sonnet
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I'm not necessarily the one who needs to do anything Nihilo. Perhaps you have made a mistake in believing a lie.
Just saying.
Sonnet
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I certainly don't feel drawn to the Jesus who died for an elect - which IS being 'proffered' here.
glorydaz
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I wrote that because I'd like an answer from you about who you are.
That there is confusion among professing Christians has nothing to do with faith. One's faith is not supposed to be in people, but in God. So why focus on what you call their "confusion".
Really? It seems to be more than that. :think:
14 [FONT="]Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.[/FONT]
Sonnet
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Specifically?
And I might ask the same of yourself.
You assume the scriptures are flawless. I infer otherwise when such total confusion amongst professing Christians is evinced.
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glorydaz
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What kind of a fool statement is that?
The Lord doesn't need you critiquing HIM according to what some people "proffer".
Just come right out and admit it. You know darn well you are working at discrediting Calvinists.
Just, PLEASE, be honest enough to come clean. These games are filled with deceptive intent. :nono:
Sonnet
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Games? Where are you getting this from? Impugning me isn't helpful GD.
Sure - Calvinism is repugnant to me. Already said so.
Easter (the Good News and Gospel, Mt28:6KJV Mk16:6KJV Lk24:6KJV; The Lord Jesus Christ "is risen") is either nonfiction, or it's fiction. No other option.
And then think about how Easter ripped through the pre-Christian world, how it burned like a fire and kept burning, it never ran out of fuel. Easter's either nonfiction, or it's fiction. And Easter is what spread the faith; the story, or message, or news, of the Lord Jesus's RESURRECTION. And it is a good story, a good message, and good news. Glad tidings. Easter.
There also is much more good news that goes along with Easter, that's very, very true; in fact, it's so true, that the sheer mass of good news that stems from, and is rooted in Easter, has rendered the Christian faith suspicious-sounding to the modern mind and modern ear. It's so wonderful, that this all by itself, is used against it! The facile thinking goes something like, "If Easter sounds too good to be true, it is." That's the entire extent of the "argument" against believing Easter. Too much good in it. Too much wonderful good news, thumbs down.
Completely ridiculous. But this is what you're doing. You're giving the Christian faith the white glove test, when it's fit for the highest Royalty (Gn14:18KJV & Gn14:19KJV & Gn14:20KJV + Ps110:4KJV cf. Ps110:1KJV).
Sonnet
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? How this helps is beyond me.
glorydaz
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Evasion at it's finest.
I have always posted as glorydaz.
Your turn.
opcorn:Again, a fool reason for not believing scripture. Do you have the same problem knowing the difference between the sexes just because so many other people do?
Easter is independent of that. Divine providence, as authoritatively taught by the authorized teachers of the one Church---the Body of Christ---the magisterium (all the bishops of the Church (cf. 1Ti3:1KJV)), answers every one of your expressed concerns ITT. Now I'm not asking you to just believe me, I'm prompting you to perform certain things, so that you'll quickly learn what there is to know yourself, by doing, and not just by listening. You have to think this all the way through, but it is soluble.
Sonnet
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Evasion at it's finest.
I have always posted as glorydaz.
Your turn.
Wasn't evasion....I said 'specifically'.
Irrespective of what anyone else might say regarding scripture - I myself have a problem with such scriptures as Romans 9, 8:28-30, Acts 13:48 Ephesians 1:1ff etc.
If scripture is a lie then who is the fool? It would be better to avoid such inflammatory language GD.
glorydaz
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"Impugning you?" Are you so easily offended? Why is that? Pray tell. :chew:
I'm not interesting in being "helpful". I'm not interested in feeling sorry for you. I'm not interested in holding your hand or scolding others who aren't nice enough to you. I'm interested in getting to the truth....the whole truth....and nothing but the truth. Minus the games.
Did you? Perhaps in a round-about blame all Christians sort of way.
Blame the Bible and imply you can't possibly to drawn to Jesus IF this and that or the other.