God's Truth
New member
That question proves your beliefs as false, for those outside the covenants with God, those who were without Him in the world, they did good and bad too.
What Does it Mean to be Born Again?
- Thread starter Robert Pate
- Start date
That question proves your beliefs as false, for those outside the covenants with God, those who were without Him in the world, they did good and bad too.
God's Truth
New member
David had to repent of his sins.
You say your God says those who believe and do anything are going to hell.
Your God is as bad or worse than what you say about the Calvinists' God.
Repentance is a work. It is something that we do. We are not saved by what we do. We are saved by the doing and the dying of Jesus. This is known as being justified by faith.
"Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ" Romans 5:1.
You don't have this, because you think that obedience is required.
Cross Reference
New member
Without repentence [y]our faith is in vain. Repntence is our moral obligation. Scripure speak of it that way. Learn it that way and live.
God's Truth
New member
Again, you say if someone does obey God then they are condemned. Your God is as bad as the Calvinists' God.
Look at the truth of it.
Cross Reference
New member
So was painting the blood over the doors so the death angel would "passover" them by.
Was that not a "work"? C'mon pate. Wake up!
You are the one that needs to wake up.
We are not saved by anything that we do, whether it be repentance or blood over the doors.
Salvation has always been by grace (God's goodness) through faith, Ephesians 2:8.
God's Truth
New member
We have to repent of our sins; and keep obeying after we are in our new born again life.
God's Truth
New member
That is what people who have been taught false doctrines say.
It is never ever wrong to obey Jesus.
It is totally false and against the teachings of the Bible to say that you can obey the teachings of Jesus.
"THERE IS NONE RIGHTEOUSS, NO, NOT ONE" Romans 3:10.
You are a liar and a false teacher.
Cross Reference
New member
Not in that is she!
Get your head out of the hole its in and rightly divide God's word to understand, as you have been told adnausm about your misunderstanding [on purpose] what Paul is trying to convey. What you don't realize as a result is YOUR sin has been a leprosy growing inside you. It will so be "white as snow". You better soon ask God to forgive you.
Cross Reference
New member
God's Truth
New member
That scripture is where Paul quotes the Old Testament which says there is none righteous who have not ever sinned.
Here are people considered righteous for doing right:
Noah was a preacher of righteousness before Jesus came and died for sinners. 2 Peter 2:5.
Abraham, when he offered his son as a sacrifice, see James 2:21.
Even Rahab the prostitute, see James 2:25.
Abel: By faith Abel offered God a better sacrifice than Cain did. By faith he was commended as a righteous man, Hebrews 11:4.
1 John 3:12 Do not be like Cain, who belonged to the evil one and murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? Because his own actions were evil and his brother's were righteous.
I just showed you scriptures that show us there were righteous people.
So don't you want to think harder if maybe you are misunderstanding Paul when he says there is no one righteous? Again, Paul is explaining that there is no righteous person who has not ever sinned ever. People messing up and sinning does not mean God gave another gospel that says since you sinned you do not have to obey anymore. You preaching against our having to obey Jesus is just bizarre; it is a distortion of the truth, it is against common sense.
You have set your teeth to go against God's chosen apostle. You don't believe God's word and continue to make a sham of it. "There is NONE righteous, no, not one" Romans 3:10.
You also have other problems. You don't believe the Gospel and justification by faith.
Tell us about your salvation experience. I don't believe that you have had one.
Should I believe your words or Paul's word.
"There is NONE righteous, no, not one" Romans 3:10.
You like GT are counterfeit Christians, you don't believe God's word.
God's Truth
New member
That is what you have done.
It is never ever wrong to obey God.
What you preach is a sham.
Paul is quoting Psalm14:1-3; 53:1-3; and Ecclesiastes 7:20. Ecclesiastes SAYS there is not a RIGHTEOUS man who does what is right and NEVER SINS. Ecclesiastes tells us that there ARE RIGHTEOUS men but none who NEVER sin. Paul is explaining that the Jews were sinners just like the Gentiles. Nowhere in these passages or scriptures anywhere does it say none can obey anything. In this same Ecclesiastes 7, Solomon tells us about wise men, righteous men, and about a man who pleases God. Solomon also tells us that he found one upright man among a thousand. The Bible tells us that there are people who want to do right.
Justification by faith means we are made clean by believing Jesus' blood cleans us instead of our sacrificing animals.
I have a powerful testimony. I think you would only try to trample it if I shared it with you.
The sign of a heretic is that they try to alter God's word.
Both Isaiah and Paul say the same thing, "There is none righteous, no, not one" Romans 3:10. "But we are all as an unclean thing and all of our righteousness are as filthy rags" Isaiah 64:6.
Beware of these heretics that teach lies. They are attacking God's word and want you to believe lies. God gave us a Bible as the way, the truth and the life. Don't be deceived by those that pervert God's word.
Those that teach a holiness doctrine are anti-Gospel. No one will be saved that does not come to Christ as a repentant sinner to be saved by him. The object of these heretics is to teach that salvation can be obtained by the works of the law, therefore, you don't need to be saved by Christ, you can save yourself by your own personal righteousness. This is about as anti-gospel and anti-Christ that you can get.
God's Truth
New member
We have to repent to Jesus to be saved, just as he says.