What Does it Mean to be Born Again?

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Robert Pate

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Nanja said:
Receiving or rejecting is a work of the flesh that cannot please God.

Salvation is not of works, but according to God's Purpose and Grace given to all His Elect before the world began 2 Tim. 1:9; Eph. 3:11!
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The fact remains. There are multiple scriptures teaching that salvation is a free gift from God that can be received or rejected.

The fact remains. There are no scriptures anywhere in the Bible that teach that God imposes salvation on anyone.

You are a heretic that is totally and complete out of the faith. The Bible plainly teaches that salvation is by grace (God's goodness) by faith.

If I were you I would not be able to sleep at night knowing that you are in conflict with God's word.
 
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Nanja said:
Receiving or rejecting is a work of the flesh that cannot please God.

Salvation is not of works, but according to God's Purpose and Grace given to all His Elect before the world began 2 Tim. 1:9; Eph. 3:11!
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2 Timothy 1:9 says that God's PURPOSE AND GRACE was given to us IN CHRIST JESUS before time began. It does not say to all His elect
 
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Robert Pate said:
No where in the Bible does it teach that God imposes salvation on anyone. What it does teach is that salvation is a free gift from God that can only be received or rejected.
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You teach that sinners Christ died for remain lost ! Wheres that taught in the Gospel ?
 
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Robert Pate said:
The fact remains. There are multiple scriptures teaching that salvation is a free gift from God that can be received or rejected.

The fact remains. There are no scriptures anywhere in the Bible that teach that God imposes salvation on anyone.

You are a heretic that is totally and complete out of the faith. The Bible plainly teaches that salvation is by grace (God's goodness) by faith.

If I were you I would not be able to sleep at night knowing that you are in conflict with God's word.
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False information not in scripture ! And you teach that Christ's death fails to save those He died for !
 
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To DENY that Jesus has victoriously defeated sin, death and the devil, is to deny that Jesus is Lord, Colossians 2:15.

To DENY that Jesus has provided salvation for everyone by his life, death and resurrection is a denial of the Gospel and justification by faith.

All that deny the work of Christ as our only means of salvation are under condemnation and the judgment.
 
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Jesus Spent Himself for God


. . . . . So what is the problem if believing Jesus was more man than God but a man as God intended man to be when He created Adam who, by Eve, would have "birthed" sons as Sons of God?
 
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Jesus Spent Himself for God


. . . . . So what is the problem if believing Jesus was more man than God but a man as God intended man to be when He created Adam who, by Eve, would have "birthed" sons as Sons of God?
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All that are born after Adam remain in Adam and are lost. Salvation comes to those that hear and believe the Gospel and are born again by the word of God, 1 Peter 1:23.
 
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Jesus Spent Himself for God


. . . . . So what is the problem if believing Jesus was more man than God but a man as God intended man to be when He created Adam who, by Eve, would have "birthed" sons as Sons of God?
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Son's of God are not born of the flesh. They are born of the Spirit.
 
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Robert Pate said:
Son's of God are not born of the flesh. They are born of the Spirit.
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Those Chosen In Union with Christ from Eternity to be God's Adopted Sons Eph. 1:4-5 are born children of wrath as others, but being His Vessels of Mercy Rom. 9:23 shall in time be Given a nature that identifies them as a Child / Son of God Eph. 2:1-10!


1 Pet. 1:3-5

3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away,
reserved in heaven for you,

5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
 
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Nanja said:
Those Chosen In Union with Christ from Eternity to be God's Adopted Sons Eph. 1:4-5 are born children of wrath as others, but being His Vessels of Mercy Rom. 9:23 shall in time be Given a nature that identifies them as a Child / Son of God Eph. 2:1-10!


1 Pet. 1:3-5

3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away,
reserved in heaven for you,

5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
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God chose Jesus to be the savior of the whole world before the foundation of the world, Ephesians 1:4.

God is no respecter of persons. Everything that God does he does corporately. By one man all became sinners, Romans 5:12. By one man the free gift of salvation came upon all men, Romans 5:18.

You are a cultist and a false teacher. repent or burn.
 
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God chose Jesus to be the savior of the whole world before the foundation of the world, Ephesians 1:4.
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Jesus Christ is the Saviour of the World of the sons of God Chosen in Him of the Father, to be Holy and without blame before Him in Love, to have remission of sins Eph. 1:4-7 before the world began 2 Tim. 1:9!

But there is also a world that was condemned already John 3:18, 36: A world that is separate from the World of God's Sons 1 Cor. 11:32, a world that shall die in their sins John 8:21; Rev. 21:8.


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God is no respecter of persons.
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That simply means that God will not show any special favor to a person because of their national origin, whether jew or gentile.


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You are a cultist and a false teacher. repent or burn.
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You're looking in that mirror again!
 
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". . . . . These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb." Revelation 7:14 (KJV)
 
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". . . . . These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb." Revelation 7:14 (KJV)
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Good scripture. These are people that by their own free will responded to Christ and his Gospel and were saved.
 
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Robert Pate said:
Nowhere in the Bible does it say that Christians will escape persecution.
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It does in Rev 12:5 KJV when it speaks of the "Body of Christ" being IMMEDIATEDLY caught away after the "Bride of Christ" gives birth to it . . . just before the beginning of the last half of the seven year period we call the tribulation. Think carefully before you say I am in error if you haven't read the rest of the Rev 12 and 13 along with Rev 6:9,10; 7:14 KJV.
 
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Surely you can read better than that? Why had these "Christians" been in the triibulation to begin with? Read the verse again.
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CR, Christians will be caught up with Christ in the sky at the resurrection time, and then God's wrath will come on the earth; that means God will destroy the earth and put people in the lake of fire.
 
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Robert Pate said:
God chose Jesus to be the savior of the whole world before the foundation of the world, Ephesians 1:4.

God is no respecter of persons. Everything that God does he does corporately. By one man all became sinners, Romans 5:12. By one man the free gift of salvation came upon all men, Romans 5:18.

You are a cultist and a false teacher. repent or burn.
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How is your God better than the Calvinist God? The Calvinist God does not let some people be saved for no reason; but, your God condemns some people for preaching obedience to Christ.
 
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