What Does it Mean to be Born Again?

God's Truth

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The sign of a heretic is that they try to alter God's word.

Both Isaiah and Paul say the same thing, "There is none righteous, no, not one" Romans 3:10. "But we are all as an unclean thing and all of our righteousness are as filthy rags" Isaiah 64:6.

Beware of these heretics that teach lies. They are attacking God's word and want you to believe lies. God gave us a Bible as the way, the truth and the life. Don't be deceived by those that pervert God's word.

That is what you do.

Jesus' words are for everyone and his words were not nailed to the cross.
 

Robert Pate

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That is what you do.

Jesus' words are for everyone and his words were not nailed to the cross.


What was nailed to the cross was the law.

"Blotting out the handwriting of the ordinances (the law) that was against us. which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, NAILING IT TO HIS CROSS" Colossians 2:14.

This is the same law that you are under and will be judged by in the judgment and condemned. Notice that it says that the law is "contrary to us". It is contrary to us because no one can do it or keep it.
 

God's Truth

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What was nailed to the cross was the law.

"Blotting out the handwriting of the ordinances (the law) that was against us. which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, NAILING IT TO HIS CROSS" Colossians 2:14.

This is the same law that you are under and will be judged by in the judgment and condemned. Notice that it says that the law is "contrary to us". It is contrary to us because no one can do it or keep it.

Jesus came and gave the new law, the new covenant.

God did not nail all the teachings of Jesus to the cross.

According to you, God came to this world, had an earthly ministry for three years teaching what to do, but you say God nailed all that to the cross; yet, Jesus says before he dies that those who do what he says, after he dies they will be receive the Holy Spirit! That proves Jesus' words were not nailed to the cross.
 

Robert Pate

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Jesus came and gave the new law, the new covenant.

God did not nail all the teachings of Jesus to the cross.

According to you, God came to this world, had an earthly ministry for three years teaching what to do, but you say God nailed all that to the cross; yet, Jesus says before he dies that those who do what he says, after he dies they will be receive the Holy Spirit! That proves Jesus' words were not nailed to the cross.


You are a typical heretic. Even when the scripture is staring you in the face you deny it. Jesus is the Old Covenant, Jesus is God's law incarnate in human flesh. There are no new laws, only the ones that you create

The law has been abolished.

"Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, EVEN THE LAW OF COMMANDMENTS contained in the ordinances; for to make one new man, so making peace" Ephesians 2:15.

You and your religion are hell bound.
 

God's Truth

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You are a typical heretic. Even when the scripture is staring you in the face you deny it. Jesus is the Old Covenant, Jesus is God's law incarnate in human flesh. There are no new laws, only the ones that you create

The law has been abolished.

"Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, EVEN THE LAW OF COMMANDMENTS contained in the ordinances; for to make one new man, so making peace" Ephesians 2:15.

You and your religion are hell bound.

Jesus came and gave the guidelines and rules for the new covenant. Then he shed his blood for the new covenant. You think Jesus preached for three years and then died and wiped away all his teachings!!!

You have got to know with common sense alone that you are in grave error.
 

Robert Pate

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Jesus came and gave the guidelines and rules for the new covenant. Then he shed his blood for the new covenant. You think Jesus preached for three years and then died and wiped away all his teachings!!!

You have got to know with common sense alone that you are in grave error.


You are not able to receive truth which means that you are void of the Holy Spirit.
 

Robert Pate

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You teach that sinners Christ died for are still lost, does the Holy Spirit lead you to teach that ?


Only a blind fool would think that he would be saved if he did not respond to the Gospel. No response is a response that will send you to hell in a heart beat.

The Holy Spirit inspired me to tell you that, blind one.
 

beloved57

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Only a blind fool would think that he would be saved if he did not respond to the Gospel. No response is a response that will send you to hell in a heart beat.

The Holy Spirit inspired me to tell you that, blind one.

You teach that Christ death doesn't save those He died for. Is that what the Holy Spirit revealed to you?
 

Robert Pate

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You teach that Christ death doesn't save those He died for. Is that what the Holy Spirit revealed to you?

You need to take a de-idiot pill.

Jesus atoned for the sins of the WHOLE WORLD, 1 John 2:2. Written by the apostle John. This means that salvation has ALREADY been provided for all who do nothing more than call upon the name of the Lord, Romans 10:13. Your Calvinist ship has been sunk by the word of God.
 

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You are in total denial of the Gospel and justification by faith. Paul is your accuser not me.

Hahahaha Don't make Paul responsible for your false teachings. James says people such as yourself are fools, and Peter says people such as yourself are ignorant and unstable, and then Peter warns us to obey. See James 2:14, 17, 20, 22, and 24; and, 2 Peter 3:16, and 17.
 

beloved57

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You need to take a de-idiot pill.

Jesus atoned for the sins of the WHOLE WORLD, 1 John 2:2. Written by the apostle John. This means that salvation has ALREADY been provided for all who do nothing more than call upon the name of the Lord, Romans 10:13. Your Calvinist ship has been sunk by the word of God.

Theres nothing more Christ dishonoring than to teach that sinners He died for shall yet perish !
 

Robert Pate

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You teach Justification by the freewill of man ! Sinners Christ shed His Blood for you say are still unjust and condemned !

No one is just until they receive God's great free gift of salvation that has been provided by Jesus Christ.

The reason that you are hell bound is because you have rejected God's great free gift. instead you want to be predestinated. Its not going to happen.
 

beloved57

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No one is just until they receive God's great free gift of salvation that has been provided by Jesus Christ.

The reason that you are hell bound is because you have rejected God's great free gift. instead you want to be predestinated. Its not going to happen.

You continue to deny the Saving Blood of Christ!
 

Nanja

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No one is just until they receive God's great free gift of salvation that has been provided by Jesus Christ.

The reason that you are hell bound is because you have rejected God's great free gift. instead you want to be predestinated. Its not going to happen.


According to the scriptures, the free gift of Salvation was Given John 3:27 exclusively to God's Elect, Chosen and Predestinated In Union with Christ before the foundation of the world to have forgiveness / remission of sins according to the riches of His Grace Eph. 1:4-7; 2 Tim. 1:9!

But all the rest of mankind shall die in their sins John 8:24:

I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins..


John 3:18, 36

18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.


1 Cor 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Rom 8:7-8
Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.


You see, the only Believing on Christ that pleases God is a fruit of the Spirit Given in New Birth Gal. 5:22 to all His Elect.

Rom. 8:9
But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.

Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.


Rom. 8:33
Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
 

Robert Pate

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According to the scriptures, the free gift of Salvation was Given John 3:27 exclusively to God's Elect, Chosen and Predestinated In Union with Christ before the foundation of the world to have forgiveness / remission of sins according to the riches of His Grace Eph. 1:4-7; 2 Tim. 1:9!

But all the rest of mankind shall die in their sins John 8:24:

I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins..


John 3:18, 36

18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.


1 Cor 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Rom 8:7-8
Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.


You see, the only Believing on Christ that pleases God is a fruit of the Spirit Given in New Birth Gal. 5:22 to all His Elect.

Rom. 8:9
But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.

Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.


Rom. 8:33
Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.


No where in the Bible does it teach that God imposes salvation on anyone. What it does teach is that salvation is a free gift from God that can only be received or rejected.
 

Nanja

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No where in the Bible does it teach that God imposes salvation on anyone. What it does teach is that salvation is a free gift from God that can only be received or rejected.

Receiving or rejecting is a work of the flesh that cannot please God.

Salvation is not of works, but according to God's Purpose and Grace given to all His Elect before the world began 2 Tim. 1:9; Eph. 3:11!
 
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