toldailytopic: What should be done with Planned Parenthood? Defund or continued suppo

[Nitro]

With rising healthcare/medication costs and falling wages, the only way my wife and I can afford birth control (you know, that thing that PREVENTS abortions) is through Planned Parenthood.

Having birth control does not PREVENT abortions. Not having birth control does not CAUSE abortions.

 

[PureX]

toldailytopic: What should be done with Planned Parenthood? Defund or continued support?

Until we can finally set up a real national health care system, which covers everyone and provides good quality care, we need organizations like Planned Parenthood.

 

[PureX]

I assume this question is asked because of abortion and if abortion providers should be publicly funded. Instead of answering directly with a yes or no I will say I don't think abortion should matter to the question. Abortion is legal. Should we defund wars because pacifists think it is morally objectionable? If you defund everything that someone might dislike you might as well stop taxation. :idunno: And I know some people do support that.

I believe that many would still want PP defunded if they didn't perform abortions, based on political principles, but I have a feeling abortion is the primary motivation for many.

Planned Parenthood doesn't use any public funding for abortion procedures. No one is being forced to pay for abortions. But everyone just ignores this, of course.

 

[Bright Raven]

Defund them of public money. If they want to continue killing babies let them do it with private funds.

 

[Dialogos]

Until we can finally set up a real national health care system, which covers everyone and provides good quality care, we need organizations like Planned Parenthood.

...cause its hard to find good Eugenics these days....

"The most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it." Margaret Sanger (Founder of Planned Parenthood), Women and the New Race (Eugenics Publ. Co., 1920, 1923)

We should not more fund planned parenthood than we should fund neo-nazism.

 

[PureX]

...cause its hard to find good Eugenics these days....

Because they provide a lot of needed health care services that no one else is providing to people, and especially to women, that don't have access to health care.

 

[kmoney]

Planned Parenthood doesn't use any public funding for abortion procedures. No one is being forced to pay for abortions. But everyone just ignores this, of course.

Money is money. It doesn't much matter if PP has a box labeled 'private' and a box labeled 'public'.

 

[Dena]

They do more than provide abortions, so I'm not sure.

 

[Nitro]

Planned Parenthood doesn't use any public funding for abortion procedures. No one is being forced to pay for abortions. But everyone just ignores this, of course.

I give money to alcoholics but they don't use it for alcohol.

 

[Lighthouse]

toldailytopic: What should be done with Planned Parenthood? Defund or continued support?

Shut them down completely.

Also, what koban said.

Charge them with murder

:thumb:

So if everyone is done ranting and raving, PP is the reason most of my economically-handicapped generation has been able to AVOID abortions.

Hogwash!

With rising healthcare/medication costs and falling wages, the only way my wife and I can afford birth control (you know, that thing that PREVENTS abortions) is through Planned Parenthood.

Right, because keeping it in your pants if you can't support a child is so expensive otherwise.

My wife also has polycystic ovarian syndrome and endometriosis, and birth control is the only way she can have even a semblance of a normal life because it balances her hormones, which slows/stops cyst formation.

Yeah, birth control pills are the only medication for this and that's how it should be...

NOT!

So, of the two options?
INCREASE FUNDING, combined with requiring Sex Education in every junior high and high school in America.

:Einstein:

I assume this question is asked because of abortion and if abortion providers should be publicly funded. Instead of answering directly with a yes or no I will say I don't think abortion should matter to the question. Abortion is legal. Should we defund wars because pacifists think it is morally objectionable? If you defund everything that someone might dislike you might as well stop taxation. :idunno: And I know some people do support that.

I believe that many would still want PP defunded if they didn't perform abortions, based on political principles, but I have a feeling abortion is the primary motivation for many.

Without abortion the taxpayers shouldn't be forced to foot the bill for others' medical expenses.

Having birth control does not PREVENT abortions. Not having birth control does not CAUSE abortions.

:Thumb:

Planned Parenthood doesn't use any public funding for abortion procedures. No one is being forced to pay for abortions. But everyone just ignores this, of course.

:rotfl:

How's that naivete working out for you?

 

[Saved.One.by.Grace]

Defund them.

I agree, defund them.

 

[Saved.One.by.Grace]

Planned Parenthood doesn't use any public funding for abortion procedures. No one is being forced to pay for abortions. But everyone just ignores this, of course.

Planned Parenthood profiting at taxpayers' expense

Read more: http://www.coloradoan.com/article/2...-number-abortions-profiting-taxpayers-expense

 

[PureX]

Planned Parenthood profiting at taxpayers' expense

Planned Parenthood is a non-profit organization. They aren't profiting from abortions or any other service they provide.

And they do not use any government money for abortions.

wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_Parenthood

 

[Alate_One]

Don't de-fund planned parenthood. We all pay for practices and organizations we don't agree with. Besides, abortion is 3% of what planned parenthood does.

Also I'd like to see everyone saying they want to de-fund planned parenthood agree to have taxpayers pay for early childhood education and financial support for all of the affected children.

 

[Angel4Truth]

Let the liberals pay for their pet. Remove all government funding.

 

[Stripe]

Don't de-fund planned parenthood. We all pay for practices and organizations we don't agree with.

So because you're happy to fund the murder of unborn children, everyone should be.

Besides, abortion is 3% of what planned parenthood does.

Yeah, like buying houses is .000004% of the items I buy.

Evolutionists are well practised in producing deceptive pictures.

 

[Saved.One.by.Grace]

Planned Parenthood is a non-profit organization. They aren't profiting from abortions or any other service they provide.

And they do not use any government money for abortions.

wikipedia: [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_Parenthood[/URL]

Pure liberal/socialist hogwash. Everyone should know by now that you cannot trust everything in wikipedia. Source for below article previously cited in my earlier post.


Planned Parenthood profiting at taxpayers' expense

Jan 16, 2013

This month marks the 40th anniversary of the passage of Roe v. Wade — the abortion decision. Planned Parenthood and those who support the culture of death will celebrate while those who embrace the culture of life will mourn the loss of 55 million Americans destroyed in this holocaust.

The reason for PP’s celebration may be its recently released annual report showing a record number of 333,964 abortions performed in 2011 at the going rate of $451 for an early stage abortion. This figure does not take into account the lucrative income obtained for chemical or later surgical abortions — big business indeed.


While the number of abortions increased at the clinics, the number of other services was down. Since 2009, PP’s cancer screenings dropped 29 percent while contraceptive services dropped 12 percent. The number of mammograms performed has (surprise!) remained the same at 0 percent.

The slogan adopted by Planned Parenthood Federation of America is “Care. No matter what” and we, the taxpayers, should care since we foot the bill. The money given to them by Congress was $55 million more than given in the year 2010 for a total of $542 million in federal, state and local government funding.


Planned Parenthood continues to perform record numbers of abortions and receives a record amount of taxpayer revenue but, with 40 years of pro-life advocacy/education and modern technology (ultrasound), truth about the profit-driven abortion industry will prevail. May we look forward to the day when our nation no longer commemorates the passage of this ill-conceived, tragic bill of death.


Barbara Martin,
Fort Collins

 

[Alate_One]

So because you're happy to fund the murder of unborn children, everyone should be.

The right is happy to pay for the murder of born children and adults in other countries. They tell us that everyone else should be happy about it too, your point being what?

I'm not happy to fund abortion, but I see the other things the organization is doing as outweighing the abortions performed. Partly because I think if you remove their funding, contraception will go down and you'll probably have more abortions in the long run rather than fewer.

And technically federal funds are not allowed to be used to fund abortions.

Yeah, like buying houses is .000004% of the items I buy.

Evolutionists are well practised in producing deceptive pictures.

What on earth is your analogy supposed to illustrate (not that it makes any sense anyway)?

Most of what Planned Parenthood does is not abortion, both in dollar amount and sheer number of services rendered.

 

[fool]

Where I live the local Health Dept. will take care of all the stuff PP does except the abortions.
Vaccinations as well, the lines are short and it's only a few dollars, or free if you're poor.

Also I'd like to see everyone saying they want to de-fund planned parenthood agree to have taxpayers pay for early childhood education and financial support for all of the affected children.

"Affected" children? You mean the ones that wouldn't get murdered?

 

[This Charming Manc]

Social programs aren't theft, that is a pretty twisted and sick view for someone who claims to support Christ.

generosity to poor is a Christian virtue, you seem to despise it. Do you despise Christ because he did say what you do for the least of these you do for me?

*note i am not coming pout pro abort , but the general assault on any social support from government.

There ya go!

It irks me that people think others should be FORCED to foot their bill, or else they would have to murder a baby.

It saddens me that we have a society that thinks the only solution to their problem is theft or murder.