toldailytopic: Is homosexuality genetic?

[Arthur Brain]

Where's a good Catholic pedophile priest joke when you need one?

There isn't one you cretin. Well, maybe there is if you think paedophilia is something you can actually joke about?

Moron.

 

[csuguy]

Sorry mate but it's got nothing to do with a 'comfort zone' as to why I'm not, nor could be attracted to my own gender. I'm simply not 'wired' that way. I've heard it before Csuguy and I'm a bit surprised that you think it's something that supposedly everyone can 'choose'. I was chatted up by a bisexual bloke in a bar once and he tried to convince me of the very same thing that you propose. Nothing doing. I like the opposite sex, simple as.

It's got nothing to do with inhibitions. Why would you think that? It's your call to think as you do but it doesn't apply as far as I'm concerned but you're welcome to think otherwise as you will.

:e4e:

I've already explained why I think as I do - I've seen it. I've known people who were straight, but who then decided to "experiment" with their sexuality and then came out bi with a homosexual partner. They don't care either way. I've known people who have had sex changes but retain their original heterosexual preference.

You can't say you don't have a choice because you've never tried to choose. I'll agree with you that your default preferences aren't chosen by you - but I disagree that you can't change your preferences. The issue is whether or not you are willing to go beyond them.

 

[Arthur Brain]

I've already explained why I think as I do - I've seen it. I've known people who were straight, but who then decided to "experiment" with their sexuality and then came out bi with a homosexual partner. They don't care either way. I've known people who have had sex changes but retain their original heterosexual preference.

You can't say you don't have a choice because you've never tried to choose. I'll agree with you that your default preferences aren't chosen by you - but I disagree that you can't change your preferences. The issue is whether or not you are willing to go beyond them.

Well again, I just don't have the inclination towards my own gender. You're trying to make it sound as if we can all just 'adjust' our "preferences" and that's not the case. I am simply attracted to women. I am nauseated by the thought of any intimacy with a bloke. Are you going to say I'm closed minded because of that?

I detest the homophobia that I often see on display, but I also 'fundamentally' disagree with the notion that we 'choose' our attractions as if there's simply some "boundary" where we can all just go 'meh' and change them at 'will'.

 

[zoo22]

Where's a good Catholic pedophile priest joke when you need one?

So crass. So wrong. So indicative.

None of us, no one, needs one. The intimation of your comment is twisted and repulsive.

 

[Granite]

Nope. I recognize Tom Cruise as being a handsome bloke but I have zero attraction towards him. See the difference?

Supposedly you're a bloke as you apparently can't going by your former post so why did you tell Granite you were a woman?

:liberals:

Well ASC is a consistent liar, among other things. Why are you surprised?

 

[Traditio]

Well......he/she sure seems reticent to admit to either gender for some reason. I wonder why?

lain:

Maybe he's both! :shocked:

 

[Traditio]

I've already explained why I think as I do - I've seen it. I've known people who were straight, but who then decided to "experiment" with their sexuality and then came out bi with a homosexual partner.

No, no. They weren't really straight to begin with. They were already bi. Unless they were a man. Then he was gay.

 

[Arthur Brain]

Well ASC is a consistent liar, among other things. Why are you surprised?

Did I say I was?

 

[oatmeal]

How about we "check out" Wayne Besen, founder of "Truth Wins Out", and his HATRED of ex gays?

Gays Hating Ex-Gays
By Greg Quinlan, April 5 2009

What happens when ex-gays dare to come out of the closet? When I helped staff the exhibit booth for the Ex-Gay Educators Caucus at the National Education Association conference in June 2006, Wayne Besen, the former spokesperson for the gay Human Rights Campaign, approached our booth and began to insult us for having the audacity to live as heterosexuals. He took photos of our booth for his ex-gay bashing website which targets the ex-gay community for ridicule and harassment. Mr. Besen and gay rights organizations do not believe ex-gays are entitled to the same rights and respect that gays currently enjoy. They picket ex-gay conferences and protest vigorously against ex-gay equal access.

In his continuing zeal to discredit the ex-gay community, Besen likes to bully ex-gays by insisting that we still look “gay.” When he was Director of Communications for the Human Rights Campaign, Besen delighted in telling me to “butch up” so “normal people” wouldn’t think I’m still “gay.” See his emails for yourself at http://pfox.org/Human-Rights-Campaign-Hate-Against-Ex-Gays.pdf

At the conference, Besen stuck his finger in my face and called me a “BLEEP BLEEP,” “BLEEP BLEEP,” “BLEEP BLEEP,” “BLEEP BLEEP,” and so on. I guess he skipped the tolerance class where school kids learn to appreciate diversity and gays. “You’re still having gay sex,” he yelled at me. We had to call security to escort him out of the convention hall because we were scared for our safety.

Hate against ex-gays like me is all too common. What’s going to happen when Congress passes the Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA) and national Hate Crimes Act for gays, as Obama has promised? With their hate officially protected by law, gay rights groups will force ex-gays into the closet. Homosexuals will determine heterosexuality by censoring any ex-gay speech or behavior they disagree with as “hateful,” “discriminatory,” “intimidation,” “bullying,” “dangerous,” or leading to “spiritual and physical violence.” We know because this is what they already label us. Fighting “hate” and “discrimination” against gays has become a euphemism for attacks against ex-gays and their supporters.
http://americansfortruth.com/news/g...ne-besens-verbal-assault-on-greg-quinlan.html

Thanks for speaking out on this. Your courage and love for the truth is most refreshing and invigorating. You set a great example to follow.

Homosexuals can be healed of their bad choices. Homosexuality is deceitful. It is a gross error that people can correct if they want to. We speak the truth in love so that they may realize that they have a choice.

Thanks again.

oatmeal

 

[Arthur Brain]

Thanks for speaking out on this. Your courage and love for the truth is most refreshing and invigorating. You set a great example to follow.

Homosexuals can be healed of their bad choices. Homosexuality is deceitful. It is a gross error that people can correct if they want to. We speak the truth in love so that they may realize that they have a choice.

Thanks again.

oatmeal

What do you mean 'homosexuality is deceitful'? How is that supposed to make sense?

 

[oatmeal]

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Well, here is a silly argument to consider:

Based on a previous study:

"Based on our exhaustive study of the facts, we have concluded that the phenomenon commonly called, "gay-bashing" is genetic in nature and in origin."

You read the results of this study.

We need to support the rights of gay-bashers, after all their lifestyle is genetic also. At least according to the study cited above. There are no contradictory studies.

oatmeal

 

[zoo22]

Thanks for speaking out on this. Your courage and love for the truth is most refreshing and invigorating. You set a great example to follow.

Homosexuals can be healed of their bad choices. Homosexuality is deceitful. It is a gross error that people can correct if they want to. We speak the truth in love so that they may realize that they have a choice.

Thanks again.

oatmeal

Does that have anything to do with the topic, besides that you're talking about homosexuals? It's like someone asking how books are made and you telling them that you don't like to read fiction.

 

[oatmeal]

What do you mean 'homosexuality is deceitful'? How is that supposed to make sense?

Arthur,

God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. Any other option is a lie and is deceitful. Heterosexuality is God's perfect plan.

If being "gay" is is genetic then so is gaybashing If it is OK to be gay, it is OK to gay bash. That is logical and consistent.

oatmeal

 

[alwight]

Arthur,

God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. Any other option is a lie and is deceitful. Heterosexuality is God's perfect plan.

If being "gay" is is genetic then so is gaybashing If it is OK to be gay, it is OK to gay bash. That is logical and consistent.

oatmeal

Evolution however did not do such a good job perhaps.

 

[freelight]

twisted logic..............

twisted logic..............

Well, here is a silly argument to consider:

Based on a previous study:

"Based on our exhaustive study of the facts, we have concluded that the phenomenon commonly called, "gay-bashing" is genetic in nature and in origin."

You read the results of this study.

We need to support the rights of gay-bashers, after all their lifestyle is genetic also. At least according to the study cited above. There are no contradictory studies.

oatmeal

Well,...I wouldnt call this a 'silly argument', but an utterly ridiculous comparison. 'Bashing' anyone is just wrong! - its more the 'acting out' of a confused, fearful, angry, hateful mentality that needs to be healed. How dare you bring up 'bashing' innocent persons just because of their 'sexual orientiation'. I'm sure Jesus would also endorse this :doh: Appalling.

If being "gay" is is genetic then so is gaybashing If it is OK to be gay, it is OK to gay bash. That is logical and consistent.

I dont think anyone is claiming that being gay is based entirely on 'genes', but there may be a genetic component involved. And to your 'convoluted' logic above, NO...its not ok to bash anyone. - that is illogical and insane.



pj

 

[Traditio]

I dont think anyone is claiming that being gay is based entirely on 'genes', but there may be a genetic component involved. And to your 'convoluted' logic above, NO...its not ok to bash anyone. - that is illogical and insane

Plato says the same thing about gay sex. The inclination may be adventitious. The choice isn't. The choice to have gay sex is contrary to reason and shameful.

 

[kmoney]

I dont think anyone is claiming that being gay is based entirely on 'genes', but there may be a genetic component involved. And to your 'convoluted' logic above, NO...its not ok to bash anyone. - that is illogical and insane.

:thumb:

I didn't understand that jump in logic either.

 

[alwight]

:thumb:

I didn't understand that jump in logic either.

I read it as more of an "ear bashing" but I may well have been wrong.
:think:

 

[Clete]

The TheologyOnline.com TOPIC OF THE DAY for September 24th, 2010 10:55 AM

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Before the politicization of homosexuality and the science behind explaining the mental disorder, the actual scientific evidence showed clearly that the leading cause of homoism is the molestation of children.

In short, homos don't reproduce biologically, they reproduce by molesting children and thus genetics has nothing to do with it.

Resting in Him,
Clete

 

[Clete]

Arthur,

God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. Any other option is a lie and is deceitful. Heterosexuality is God's perfect plan.

If being "gay" is is genetic then so is gaybashing If it is OK to be gay, it is OK to gay bash. That is logical and consistent.

oatmeal

God thinks that gays should be bashed to death (upon conviction of the crime of being a homo, of course)!