Romans 6:3 Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death?
Have you been baptized into his death?
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Romans 6:3 Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death?
Have you been baptized into his death?
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Oh the high and mighty I.S.I.T.
You consistently quote scriptures that are NOT directly applicable to the body of Christ, but are part of Christ's ministry to the circumcision (i.e., Israel). That would include the writing of the circumcision apostles (i.e., the twelve apostles to sit on twelve thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel).
You have some serious problems with understanding many things and I don't expect you take anything that I post seriously.
The FIRST people called Christians were NOT in Israel and they were not those close to Christ during His earthly ministry to the circumcision.
Acts 11:26 (AKJV/PCE)
(11:26) And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.
But don't let these Biblical facts get in your way.
Paul admonished people to follow HIM AS HE FOLLOWED Christ and he did NOT follow Christ during His earthly ministry. As a matter of fact, he was Christ's greatest enemy at that time. This is why Paul calls himself one born OUT of due time. Paul followed the risen and glorified Christ who gave Paul NEW revelation.
Right Divider
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LOL.... you are quite the character...I didn't say I was Paul, so why try to prop up more lies?
You need to be able to rightly divide between the natural things, and the spiritual things.
This is what you said:
So YOU received direct revelation LIKE Paul?
That was what I was getting at. Apparently you're too dense to get it and "think that I was lying".
What a card!
Right Divider
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Indeed I have and it did not require a drop of water!
Right Divider
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I do and I also under the use of figures of speech, like metaphors and similes .... among others.
way 2 go
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Peter wrote to the dispersion which you did not dispute
which is:
rom G1289; dispersion, that is, (specifically and concretely) the (converted) Israelites resident in Gentile countries: - (which are) scattered (abroad).
so 1 Peter 2:10 is written to the dispersion too
1Pe 2:9*But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood...
salvation is no longer by heritage is Peter's point
1Pe 2:9...holy nation, a people for possession, so that you might speak of the praises of Him who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous light;
Christians are a people who were not a people.
Christians are not a people by heritage.
too bad about the dispersion thing tho
Interplanner
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MAD chronically is finding divisions and fractures in the Bible and several Gospels.
What is a teaching of Christ that is only for Israel? Don't forget that he was a missionary recruiter; he did many things to get as many of Israel ready as possible for the mission to the nations that was coming. That, not a theocracy in israel, was the plan all along.
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Your gross incompetence with the scripture has already been noted. Thanks anyway.
Just because that is where they were first "called" Christians, does not mean they were truly the first Christ followers, as the apostles also followed the teachings of Jesus Christ, as did Paul later on.
The definition of a true "Christian" is one who follows Jesus Christ and His teachings.
The word Christian G5546 is defined as Χριστιανός Christianós, khris-tee-an-os'; from G5547; a Christian, i.e. follower of Christ:—Christian.
So those who do not follow the teachings, commands, sayings of Jesus Christ are not by definition true Christians, so MAD followers fail that test because they do not follow, obey, keep the sayings, teachings and commands of Jesus Christ.
You don't follow, obey or keep the sayings and commands of Jesus Christ, hypocrite. You are the worst kind of fake christian. Sell all you have and follow Jesus, that was a saying also.
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Matthew 19:21 KJV -
We do not follow, obey, keep these teachings and commands of Jesus Christ.
Do you?
Matthew 10:5 KJV
(5) These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
Matthew 16:20 KJV
(20) Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ.
That's what I hear from others of that sect, and have also read concerning this MAD doctrine. Which could be why I was attacked by that group for posting scriptures quoting Jesus and the other apostles words. They tell me, those words of Jesus and the other apostles are not for them, only Paul's "mystery" doctrine. I was told Paul preaches a different gospel than Jesus and the other apostles, as I was told I was not "rightly dividing".
You don't obey, but you also assert MAD doesn't, that's a hypocrite - :wave2:I'm not yet "perfected".
The "different" gospel that Paul preached is straight from Christ, so it IS the gospel of Jesus Christ, sheesh.
Jesus said "if you will be perfect" not that everyone was required to sell all that he had to be saved. Remember "rightly divide".
So follow, keep, and obey Jesus Christs teachings, sayings, and commands, because Paul taught the same.
Did Paul believe water baptism was efficacious?