John 1:17
For the law was given by Moses,
but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
I hope you guys don't think Paul was crucified for you, or that Paul is now the mediator of the New Testament.
It is obvious that you take that passage to mean what you take it to mean by the very same line of reasoning by which you read a false positive into the assertion of the "you guys" you are responding to.
And vice versa as to one or the other of those two; if not both.
The result?
Not only one more stalement between both sides; but worse than that, the biting and devouring of one another.
And worse than that...
Not only each's rationalizing of the perceived right to allow oneself to "go there," but the taking of sides in said biting and devouring, for its' shamed "strength in numbers."
The only victor?
"The course of this world" and its' intended device...set in motion in that garden, so long ago.
The Apostle Paul's words will have to suffice.
2 Corinthians 2:9 For to this end also did I write, that I might know the proof of you, whether ye be obedient in all things. 2:10 To whom ye forgive any thing, I forgive also: for if I forgave any thing, to whom I forgave it, for your sakes forgave I it in the person of Christ; 2:11 Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.