The Trinity

The Trinity

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God's Truth said:
Look at 1 Timothy 1:8.

1 Timothy 1:8 We know that the law is good if one uses it properly. 9 We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, 10 for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine 11 that conforms to the gospel concerning the glory of the blessed God, which he entrusted to me.

The scriptures say THE LAW IS GOOD if one uses it correctly.
You go against the law all around.
You misuse the law for your false doctrines.
Christians uphold the law, not put it down and condemn others with it, as you do.

Romans 3:31 Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law.

Now where did you go wrong in your understanding?
You need to study and search that out more, because Paul does NOT contradict himself; AND, true saved do NOT ignore scripture, so forget about ignoring 1 Timothy 1:8 and Romans 3:31.

There was a change to that old law, see Hebrews 7:12.

That changed old law is our new law.

All those who are saved have to obey the law, the new law, and the new law is in the New Covenant.
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1st Corinthians 5

I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? 13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.​
 
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Nihilo said:
1st Corinthians 5

I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? 13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.​
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What is your point?
 
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Nihilo said:
1st Corinthians 5
I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? 13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
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God's Truth said:
What is your point?
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1st Timothy 1:8 (KJV) An example of using the law lawfully: "With such an one no not to eat."
 
keypurr

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Nihilo said:
Then stop teaching falseness, and passing it off as authorized Christian teaching.
The Church today does not defend these wicked works of the past, nor do they engage in them now.
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Tell that to the choir boys who were molested. The church is evil and its doctrines are pagan.
 
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Nihilo said:
So YOU say. The college of bishops is in the Bible, we see when they were formed, by the Lord, and when they ordained their own successors, continuing the magisterium, the Church's overseers, who oversee the Church. They don't teach what you teach. They teach the Trinity, going all the way back to the beginning. I'm going to go with the elders of the Church, who are actually featured throughout the Bible, over you, you crazy old woman.
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In other words, you do not think for yourself.

Jesus and his Apostles NEVER taught of a Trinity.
 
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keypurr said:
Tell that to the choir boys who were molested. The church is evil and its doctrines are pagan.
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When he write "Crazy old gentleman. Censored" You need to neg him because he is acting like a supercilious little snob; do not stand for it!
 
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keypurr said:
Truth hurts. In Boston many RC churches had to close to pay the legal bills of the "Holy" men that stand at the front of the church and display their smugness with the church lies.
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Yes, true, and what is more, it was common practice in the Middle-Ages ( look into this). when men were homos, they were sent to the monastery off by themselves and these monks prayed a lot, and whipped themselves, but they also monkeyed around, hidden from the world.
 
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keypurr said:
In other words, you do not think for yourself.
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keypurr said:
Jesus and his Apostles NEVER taught of a Trinity.
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You see what you want to see, and what you want to see, differs from what the Church's authorized teachers teach. The Church's authorized teachers are in the Bible, and "Jesus and his Apostles," in that order, are their source, through the Apostles' laying on of hands, to consecrate new bishops. The Twelve Apostles were the original college of bishops, the elders of the Church, her overseers. Revelation 21:14 (KJV) You teach differently from what they teach. You're both old gentlemen, but you can't both be right, so one of yous is a crazy old gentleman. I think it's you.
 
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keypurr said:
Truth hurts. In Boston many RC churches had to close to pay the legal bills of the "Holy" men that stand at the front of the church and display their smugness with the church lies.
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It's Jesus's own Church, and you're enjoying seeing her wounded.
 
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Ktoyou said:
When he write "Crazy old gentleman. Censored" You need to neg him because he is acting like a supercilious little snob; do not stand for it!
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Yes, do like Ktoyou did. I think she used---what was it---eighteen question marks?????????????????? It was the opposite of "supercilious little snob," that's for sure. :plain:
 
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A light to who? A light to the GENTILES.

Isaiah 51:4
"Pay attention to Me, O My people, And give ear to Me, O My nation; For a law will go forth from Me, And I will set My justice for a light of the peoples.

Acts 13:47 For this is what the Lord has commanded us: "'I have made you a light for the Gentiles, that you may bring salvation to the ends of the earth.'"


The new law that Jesus came to teach.

Look at 1 Timothy 1:8.

1 Timothy 1:8 We know that the law is good if one uses it properly. 9 We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, 10 for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine 11 that conforms to the gospel concerning the glory of the blessed God, which he entrusted to me.

The scriptures say THE LAW IS GOOD if one uses it correctly.
You go against the law all around.
You misuse the law for your false doctrines.
Christians uphold the law, not put it down and condemn others with it, as you do.

Romans 3:31 Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law.

Now where did you go wrong in your understanding?
You need to study and search that out more, because Paul does NOT contradict himself; AND, true saved do NOT ignore scripture, so forget about ignoring 1 Timothy 1:8 and Romans 3:31.

There was a change to that old law, see Hebrews 7:12.

That changed old law is our new law.

All those who are saved have to obey the law, the new law, and the new law is in the New Covenant.
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(and written on the hearts and minds of believers)

Good post gt
 
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The Origin of Gods Word.

Gods Word originated from God the Father.

John 1:1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
(NKJ)

Gods Word did NOT originate from Jesus. Jesus got the Word from God the Father.


John 12:48-50
48 "He who rejects Me, and does not receive My words, has that which judges him-- the word that I have spoken will judge him in the last day.
49 "For I have not spoken on My own authority; but the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak.
50 "And I know that His command is everlasting life. Therefore, whatever I speak, just as the Father has told Me, so I speak."
(NKJ)

Gods Word did NOT originate from the Holy Spirit. Jesus got the Word from God the Father, and the Holy Spirit only quotes what Jesus said.


John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
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The Holy Spirit is NOT allowed to speak to us any other way.


John 16:13-14
13 "However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.
14 "He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you.
(NKJ)

This is where the Godhead came from. All three are rooted and grounded in the Word of God. All three only speak Gods Word. But only one of them is God. That would be the Father.
We are trying to deal with the Word of God in the very same way that Jesus dealt with the Word. He is our example. It didnt make Jesus God, and it isnt going to make us God.


John 17:1-3

1 Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: "Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You,
2 "as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as You have given Him.
3 "And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.
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John 20:17
17 Jesus said to her, "Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, 'I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God.'"
(NKJ)

1 Cor 8:5-6
5 For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as there are many gods and many lords),
6 yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live.
(NKJ)
 
keypurr

keypurr

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Nihilo said:
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You see what you want to see, and what you want to see, differs from what the Church's authorized teachers teach. The Church's authorized teachers are in the Bible, and "Jesus and his Apostles," in that order, are their source, through the Apostles' laying on of hands, to consecrate new bishops. The Twelve Apostles were the original college of bishops, the elders of the Church, her overseers. Revelation 21:14 (KJV) You teach differently from what they teach. You're both old gentlemen, but you can't both be right, so one of yous is a crazy old gentleman. I think it's you.
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I have been authorized by Jesus Christ to share my faith. Your in a state of delusion if you think the Apostles were Roman Catholics.

But you are right, I seem crazy when I see the words of our Lord distorted like your church does.


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keypurr

keypurr

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Nihilo said:
It's Jesus's own Church, and you're enjoying seeing her wounded.
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Correction, it is the church of Satan for over the years it has distorted truth and filled itself with pagan traditions. Some of which are carried over into the protestant religions. She is the Mother of Harlots.


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