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God's Truth

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See complete list: http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False...ies-a_list.htm
Though this list came from the site of Jesus is Savior, it does not mean I support all the beliefs of that site, it merely means I agree that this list is very informative and helpful in demolishing the influence of the Catholic denomination.

The kissing of the Pope's feet

It had been a pagan custom to kiss the feet of emperors. The Word of God forbids such practices. (Read Acts 10:25-26; Revelation 19:10; 22:9). 709
The Temporal power of the Popes

When Pepin, the usurper of the throne of France, descended into Italy, called by Pope Stephen II, to war against the Italian Lombards, he defeated them and gave the city of Rome and surrounding territory to the pope. Jesus expressly forbade such a thing, and He himself refused worldly kingship. (Read Matthew 4:8-9; 20:25-26; John 18:38). 750
Worship of the cross, images and relics was authorized

This was by order of Dowager Empress Irene of Constantinople, who first caused to pluck the eyes of her own son, Constantine VI, and then called a church council at the request of Hadrian I, pope of Rome at that time.

Such practice is called simply IDOLATRY in the Bible, and is severely condemned. (Read Exodus 20:4; 3:17; Deuteronomy 27:15; Psalm 115). 788
Holy Water, mixed with a pinch of salt and blessed by the priest, was authorized 850
The veneration of St. Joseph began 890
The baptism of bells was instituted by Pope John XIV 965
Canonization of dead saints, first by Pope John XV

Every believer and follower of Christ is called saint in the Bible. (Read Romans 1:7; 1st Colossians 1:2). 995
Fasting on Fridays and during Lent were imposed

Imposed by popes said to be interested in the commerce of fish. (Bull, or permit to eat meat), some authorities say, began in the year 700. This is against the plain teaching of the Bible. (Read Matthew 15:10; 1st Corinthians 10:25; 1st Timothy 4:1-3). 998
The Mass was developed gradually as a sacrifice; attendance made obligatory in the 11th century.

The Bible teaches that the sacrifice of Christ was offered once and for all, and is not to be repeated, but only commemorated in the Lord's Supper. (Read Hebrews 7:27; 9:26-28; 10:10-14).
The celibacy of the priesthood was decreed by Pope Hildebrand, Boniface VII

Jesus imposed no such rule, nor did any of the apostles. On the contrary, St. Peter was a married man, and St. Paul says that bishops were to have wife and children. (Read 1st Timothy 3:2,5, and 12; Matthew 8:14-15). 1079
The Rosary, or prayer beads was introduced by Peter the Hermit, in the year 1090. Copied from Hindus and Mohammedans

The counting of prayers is a pagan practice and is expressly condemned by Christ. (Matthew 6:5-13). 1090
The Inquisition of heretics was instituted by the Council of Verona in the year 1184. Jesus never taught the use of force to spread His religion 1184
The sale of Indulgences, commonly regarded as a purchase of forgiveness and a permit to indulge in sin.

Christianity, as taught in the Bible, condemns such a traffic and it was the protest against this traffic that brought on the Protestant Reformation in the 16th century. 1190
The dogma of Transubstantiation was decreed by Pope Innocent III, in the year

By this doctrine the priest pretends to perform a daily miracle by changing a wafer into the body of Christ, and then he pretends to eat Him alive in the presence of his people during Mass. The Bible condemns such absurdities; for the Lord's Supper is simply a memorial of the sacrifice of Christ. The spiritual presence of Christ is implied in the Lord's Supper. (Read Luke 22:19-20; John 6:35; 1st Corinthians 11:26). 1215
Confession of sin to the priest at least once a year was instituted by Pope Innocent III., in the Lateran Council

The Bible commands us to confess our sins direct to God. (Read Psalm 51:1-10; Luke 7:48; 15:21; 1st John 1:8-9). 1215
The adoration of the wafer (Host), was decreed by Pope Honorius

So the Roman Church worships a God made by human hands. This is plain idolatry and absolutely contrary to the spirit of the Gospel. (Read John 4:24). 1220
The Bible forbidden to laymen and placed in the Index of forbidden books by the Council of Valencia

Jesus commanded that the Scriptures should be read by all. (John 5:39; 1st Timothy 3:15-17). 1229
The Scapular was invented by Simon Stock, and English monk

It is a piece of brown cloth, with the picture of the Virgin and supposed to contain supernatural virtue to protect from all dangers those who wear it on naked skin. This is fetishism. 1287
The Roman Church forbade the cup to the laity, by instituting the communion of one kind in the Council of Constance

The Bible commands us to celebrate the Lord's Supper with unleavened bread and the fruit of the vine. (Read Matthew 26:27; 1st Corinthians 11:26-29). 1414
The doctrine of Purgatory was proclaimed as a dogma of faith by Council of Florence

There is not one word in the Bible that would teach the purgatory of priests. The blood of Jesus Christ cleanseth us from all sins. (Read 1st John 1:7-9; 2:1-2; John 5:24; Romans 8:1). 1439
The doctrine of 7 Sacraments affirmed

The Bible says that Christ instituted only two ordinances, Baptism and the Lord's Supper. (Read Matthew 28:19-20; 26:26-28). 1439
The Ave Maria, part of the last

It was completed 50 years afterward and finally approved by Pope Sixtus V, at the end of the 16th century. 1508
The Council of Trent, held in the year 1545, declared that Tradition is of equal authority with the Bible

By tradition is meant human teachings. The Pharisees believed the same way, and Jesus bitterly condemned them, for by teaching human tradition, they nullified the commandments of God. (Read Mark 7:7-13; Colossians 2:8; Revelation 22:18). 1545
The apocryphal books were added to the Bible also by the Council of Trent

These books were not recognized as canonical by the Jewish Church. (See Revelation 22:8-9). 1546
The Creed of Pope Pius IV was imposed as the official creed 1560 years after Christ and the apostles

True Christians retain the Holy Scriptures as their creed. Hence their creed is 1500 years older than the creed of Roman Catholics. (Read Galatians 1:8). 1560
The Immaculate Conception of the Virgin Mary was proclaimed by Pope Pius IX

The Bible states that all men, with the sole exception of Christ, are sinners. Mary herself had need of a Savior. (Read Romans 3:23; 5:12; Psalm 51:5; Luke 1:30,46,47). 1834
In the year 1870 after Christ, Pope Pius IX proclaimed the dogma of Papal Infallibility

This is a blasphemy and the sign of the apostasy and of the antichrist predicted by St. Paul. (Read 2nd Thessalonians 2:2-12; Revelation 17:1-9; 13:5-8,18).

Pope Plus X, in the year 1907, condemned together with "Modernism", all the discoveries of modern science which are not approved by the Church

Pius IX had done the same thing in the Syllabus of 1864. 1907
In the year 1930 Pius XI, condemned the Public Schools 1930
In the year 1931 the same pope Pius XI, reaffirmed the doctrine that Mary is "the Mother of God"

This doctrine was first invented by the Council of Ephesus in the year 431. This is a heresy contrary by Mary's own words. (Read Luke 1:46-49; John 2: l-5). 1931
In the year 1950 the last dogma was proclaimed by Pope Pius XII, the Assumption of the Virgin Mary 1950
 

Nihilo

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Made what up?
That there are no men worth heeding. Those He authorized to teach the Christian faith are the bishops, the overseers of the Church that He built. You call yourself "the builder." The Lord said that He'd build the Church. I don't believe the Church fell over.
 

popsthebuilder

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That there are no men worth heeding. Those He authorized to teach the Christian faith are the bishops, the overseers of the Church that He built. You call yourself "the builder." The Lord said that He'd build the Church. I don't believe the Church fell over.
My name is a carry over from my work. I an a carpenter. Please stop accusing me of dishonoring those due honor.

I speak of the misdirection of the ancient rcc based in their evil works. That is what we are taught to do in scripture, so why are you against me for it? I know that you are aware of the Crusades and Spanish inquisition, and other atrocities committed by the hands of men in high places.
 

Nihilo

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Even if the papacy is invalid Gt, like I mentioned to Pops, then you've no such contention against the Orthodox bishops. But you deny them also. You're just a lone wolf. Show where in the Bible you're justified in this choice.

We'll wait, for an eternity. :juggle:
 

Nihilo

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My name is a carry over from my work. I an a carpenter. Please stop accusing me of dishonoring those due honor.
Then stop teaching falseness, and passing it off as authorized Christian teaching.
I speak of the misdirection of the ancient rcc based in their evil works. That is what we are taught to do in scripture, so why are you against me for it? I know that you are aware of the Crusades and Spanish inquisition, and other atrocities committed by the hands of men in high places.
The Church today does not defend these wicked works of the past, nor do they engage in them now.
 

popsthebuilder

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Then stop teaching falseness, and passing it off as authorized Christian teaching.
The Church today does not defend these wicked works of the past, nor do they engage in them now.
And I never said or insinuated they did. So what is your deal?

What falseness do I speak as truth? List them.

I do not deny the trinity. I don't think the Spirit should be called a person, (limiting to the capacities of a person) but I do not deny the trinity. I don't understand the Word of GOD that came from GOD to be coeternal with GOD, but I do not deny that Christ is the Spirit of GOD now and forever more. So please attempt to explain again what it is I am so very wrong about, and explain why, (preferably without resorting to the whole herd mentality thing, as we know the path to be narrow and straight.)
 

God's Truth

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Even if the papacy is invalid Gt, like I mentioned to Pops, then you've no such contention against the Orthodox bishops. But you deny them also. You're just a lone wolf. Show where in the Bible you're justified in this choice.

We'll wait, for an eternity. :juggle:

I have no idea what you are talking about.

I have already explained to you before that there needed to be churches to gather and leaders because there were scriptures still being written and taught. We have all the scriptures now and the Catholics have no excuse for believing the falseness taught them.
 

Nihilo

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I have no idea what you are talking about.
In case anyone wondered why I call you a pinhead. :rolleyes:
I have already explained to you before that there needed to be churches to gather and leaders because there were scriptures still being written and taught. We have all the scriptures now
How is this relevant to anything? Where in the Scripture does it teach that we don't need the Church elders anymore? Nowhere.
and the Catholics have no excuse for believing the falseness taught them.
Catholics are taught the truth. You are the one teaching falseness, like that the Church has no more need for her bishops. You prove your falseness by teaching against what the Church has always taught and believed about the Trinity.
 

God's Truth

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In case anyone wondered why I call you a pinhead. :rolleyes:
How is this relevant to anything? Where in the Scripture does it teach that we don't need the Church elders anymore? Nowhere.
Catholics are taught the truth. You are the one teaching falseness, like that the Church has no more need for her bishops. You prove your falseness by teaching against what the Church has always taught and believed about the Trinity.

The Catholic denomination is a haunt for demons; the Catholic denomination is apostate from the teachings of Jesus Christ and all his apostles.

Now stop calling me names and disregarding the topic of this thread.
 

glorydaz

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Silly you; don't you know that we never stop learning?

Of course I know that isn't a new thought. Why would you even ask that after I asked you if you were aware of it? It is common knowledge.

If it's common knowledge, why did you ask me if I was aware of it?
And then scold me for telling you it wasn't a new thought? Odd.

GOD indeed does know the testimony I speak of.

I didn't ask you if God knew. I asked you to tell me what it was I'm supposed to have denied. You say many things about me that aren't true, so how can I possibly know which of those you're talking about?



And yes; ones testimony generally includes something that happened to them.

That, too, is common knowledge. Or am I not supposed to mention that?

I won't be posting it again, but will be happy to sent it to you privately since you don't recall denying it or the validity there of repeatedly.

Please don't. If I did, in fact, "deny it" or the "validity there of...repeatedly", then I surely don't want to have to endure it again.

I'm confident, however, that you misread whatever I said. You haven't gotten anything right thus far. :chuckle:
 

glorydaz

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Written to his "friend" God's UNtruth.

They are terribly blind and unwilling to see.

Let it go; their words are a testament against them. They attempt to twist the very Spirit of truth, though they know it not; and upon hearing such cry blasphemy, also in relative ignorance of the truth rather than willful turning from it. The very nature of the conversation is now not good. They will be called to account for their words though they believe not. All we can do ourselves is reflect mercy and give forgiveness in remembrance of what the Lord and GOD did and does for us all, and hope that they are changed to the glory of and thanks to GOD.

Take it how you will friend; though I hope it is taken as it is meant towards you, which is peacably, and with humble thanks...peace

The poor who follow the Way are in reality rich. The lost who put their faith in the Lord will surely not be forsaken, and will be gathered up by the good Shepherd.


Why don't you ever have anything incouraging or kind or edifying to say to any but those that are seemingly your friends. Does the heathen not do the same?

Oh, you mean like you do? :popcorn:
 

popsthebuilder

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If it's common knowledge, why did you ask me if I was aware of it?
And then scold me for telling you it wasn't a new thought? Odd.



I didn't ask you if God knew. I asked you to tell me what it was I'm supposed to have denied. You say many things about me that aren't true, so how can I possibly know which of those you're talking about?





That, too, is common knowledge. Or am I not supposed to mention that?



Please don't. If I did, in fact, "deny it" or the "validity there of...repeatedly", then I surely don't want to have to endure it again.

I'm confident, however, that you misread whatever I said. You haven't gotten anything right thus far. :chuckle:
You contradict yourself because the truth is that you do not care.
 

glorydaz

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You contradict yourself because the truth is that you do not care.


I see you have opinions.

That one about the TRUTH being that I don't care is so.....dare I say, just plain stupid?

Yeah, I think that fits quite well. Just plain stupid, Pops. Please try and get a grip.
 
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