So does every other crazy person who rejects our elders in the faith, who are IN the Bible.
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God's Truth
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No they do not.
They make excuses such as: repent does not mean of sins; there are more than one gospel; faith alone is not dead it is the saving faith; believe what false teachers taught you because they came before you and they are educated. ETC.
popsthebuilder
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What elders do I deny. I don't even deny the trinity so what is it you are accusing me of exactly? And where is your proof?
I believe all the saints who are in the bible.
If you think I owe those who propagated misdirection as truth and who murdered and plundered the innocent then then that is your business. If you think those who have proven time and time again through their works, that they are not holy are to be followed as if Christ, then that is your problem.
If you think I have dishonored the saints because I speak against the coeternal nature of the Trinity then show the coeternal nature scripturally.
You are the false teacher, Gt, and I don't tell people to believe you.
The Church's elders are IN the Bible, Gt. They are true teachers. Believe them.
The Church's elders, who are consecrated by the imposition of hands; they are featured many places in the scriptures.
'Seems like you do. 'Good to hear that you don't.
Dishonoring your elders, and denying the Trinity.
ITT.
But not the Church's elders.
Christ sent His Apostles, the Twelve. His Apostles laid hands upon their successors, the bishops. You dishonor them.
God's Truth
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I preach obedience to Christ. I preach that because I want others to know the power and glory of God.
If someone already knows Him, I want to help them know Him even more.
If they know Him, then they know the power of obeying and I want them to share their love and truth of God with me so that we can share in the love and knowledge of God together.
popsthebuilder
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They proved themselves unworthy of honor by their works. If not then I do not dishonor them.
Do you honor murderers? What about child molesters? Are you a fan of the witch trials? What about the Spanish inquisition? Oooh oooh..... The Crusades; surely that was I show of the righteousness and mercy of GOD.
So you actually claim that I deny the teachings of the church elders because I don't conform to herd mentality?
Then teach as the elders teach, because they want these things too, and they teach the authorized expression of the one Christian faith.
Name those who proved themselves unworthy of honor by their works. 'Seems you're throwing out the baby with the bathwater.
No.
I claim that you deny the teachings of the Church's elders because you do.
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First you said we dishonor the elders who ARE IN THE BIBLE. Now the truth comes out that you are talking about your false Catholic denomination.
That didn't just come out, you pinhead.
God's Truth
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It sure did, in these recent posts from you it did. How many times did you tell pops and me that we dishonor the ELDERS IN THE BIBLE?
Now it comes out that you believe we dishonor your false teachers.
The Catholic denomination went apostate a long time ago, if there ever was a time they were not apostate.
popsthebuilder
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No, it didn't, you pinhead.
As frequently as I could.
Calling the Church's true teachers false teachers is dishonoring your elders, and flipping the bird to the Lord Who instituted them in sending His Twelve Apostles.
This view of yours explains why you are a false teacher.
I know that you don't, so I didn't mention it, but if you'd prefer to submit to the Orthodox bishops instead, I wouldn't be giving you such a hard time.
Big loss.
popsthebuilder
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Pretty sure Jesus the Christ is the true teacher; not any other man.
No argument.
You didn't get that from Jesus the Christ. You made that up. Luke 10:16 (KJV)
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While the foundation was being laid, the people needed apostles and people to preach the Way to others. The foundation has been laid and we have the complete Bible.
The Catholic denomination preaches falseness and they hinder one from being saved.
Therefore, no need for the elders? You made that up.
Also false.
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I will say this about the apostate Catholic denomination but you will have to take it to another thread if you want to keep talking about it.
New Testament times had practiced them?
OF ALL THE HUMAN TRADITIONS taught and practiced by the Roman Catholic Church, which are contrary to the Bible, the most ancient are the prayers for the dead and the sign of the Cross. Both began 300 years after Christ.
320 Wax Candles introduced in church.
375 Veneration of angels and dead saints.
394 The Mass, as a daily celebration, adopted.
431 The worship of Mary, the mother of Jesus, and the use of the term,
"Mother of God", as applied to her, originated in the Council of Ephesus
500 Priests began to dress differently from the laity
526 Extreme Unction
593 The doctrine of Purgatory was first established by Gregory the Great
600 The Latin language, as the language of prayer and worship in churches, was also imposed by Pope Gregory I. 600 years after Christ
The Word of God forbids praying and teaching in an unknown tongue. (1st Corinthians 14:9).
600 The Bible teaches that we pray to God alone. In the primitive church never were prayers directed to Mary, or to dead saints. This practice began in the Roman Church
(Matthew 11:28; Luke 1:46; Acts 10:25-26; 14:14-18)
610 The Papacy is of pagan origin. The title of pope or universal bishop, was first given to the bishop of Rome by the wicked emperor Phocas
This he did to spite Bishop Ciriacus of Constantinople, who had justly excommunicated him for his having caused the assassination of his predecessor emperor Mauritius. Gregory 1, then bishop of Rome, refused the title, but his successor, Boniface III, first assumed title "pope."
Jesus did not appoint Peter to the headship of the apostles and forbade any such notion. (Luke 22:24-26; Ephesians 1:22-23; Colossians 1:18; 1st Corinthians 3:11).
Note: Nor is there any mention in Scripture, nor in history, that Peter ever was in Rome, much less that he was pope there for 25 years; Clement, 3rd bishop of Rome, remarks that "there is no real 1st century evidence that Peter ever was in Rome."