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Arthur Brain

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Matthew 15:12 says: "Then came his disciples, and said unto him, Knowest thou that the Pharisees were offended, after they heard this saying?"

Does the next verse say, "Upon hearing this, Jesus ran to the Pharisees and apologized profusely for being rude by offending them."?

No, the next verse doesn't say that. Do you know why not?
Because they were abusing their authority perhaps and they were taken to task for it?
 

Arthur Brain

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The truth is offensive to those who hate the truth.

So yes, being rude and offensive is good when one is speaking truth.
That's all well and good in and of itself. When people make unsubstantiated and pathetic accusations about child molesting then surely you, as a mod, should take them to task over it and at least demand some sort of evidence? That too much to ask?
 

JudgeRightly

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So you actually think mocking the non Christians here will convert them?

Yes, I do, actually.

Here's an example of someone being harsh and mocking to a non-Christian and ending up saving his eternal soul.


How's that going for you? Some of them have been around for quite a few years. Converted any of them yet?

Terry, in the above link, was, in fact, saved. He died from his disease, but there is no doubt that he is in heaven now.

If you will remember the Israelites/Jews were continually rebelling against God. Here's what God says to them.

Yes. And how is that an argument against my position?

No, JR, Jesus did not insult her,

Saying it doesn't make it so.

Jesus did, in fact, insult her.

He did so by using the diminutive form of a derogatory term for Gentiles.

Why do you keep asserting that He didn't insult her, when He clearly did?

not unless you believe He was suddenly so taken aback by her response that He was compelled to do exactly what she was so unrelentingly following Him around for?

I refuse to cast pearls before swine.

Frankly, you couldn't cast "pearls" before anything because you don't have any and you sure don't have an explanation either.

I refuse to cast pearls before swine.

The swine, in this case, in case you haven't caught on, is you, by the way.

Trying to use the Bible and this particular account for juvenile antics and pathetic name calling was never gonna be something you could defend.

Name calling is allowed on this forum. Name calling without cause is not.

That's all well and good in and of itself.

Thank you for conceding my point.
 

Gary K

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Yes, I do, actually.

Here's an example of someone being harsh and mocking to a non-Christian and ending up saving his eternal soul.




Terry, in the above link, was, in fact, saved. He died from his disease, but there is no doubt that he is in heaven now.



Yes. And how is that an argument against my position?



Saying it doesn't make it so.

Jesus did, in fact, insult her.

He did so by using the diminutive form of a derogatory term for Gentiles.

Why do you keep asserting that He didn't insult her, when He clearly did?



I refuse to cast pearls before swine.



I refuse to cast pearls before swine.

The swine, in this case, in case you haven't caught on, is you, by the way.



Name calling is allowed on this forum. Name calling without cause is not.



Thank you for conceding my point.
So you can point to one example out of how many millions of homosexuals? That's not what I would call a rousing success. I wonder how many failures there were. How many homosexuals ended up hating all Christians because of it.
 

Arthur Brain

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So you actually think mocking the non Christians here will convert them? How's that going for you? Some of them have been around for quite a few years. Converted any of them yet?

Yes, I do, actually.

Here's an example of someone being harsh and mocking to a non-Christian and ending up saving his eternal soul.




Terry, in the above link, was, in fact, saved. He died from his disease, but there is no doubt that he is in heaven now.



Yes. And how is that an argument against my position?



Saying it doesn't make it so.

Jesus did, in fact, insult her.

He did so by using the diminutive form of a derogatory term for Gentiles.

Why do you keep asserting that He didn't insult her, when He clearly did?



I refuse to cast pearls before swine.



I refuse to cast pearls before swine.

The swine, in this case, in case you haven't caught on, is you, by the way.



Name calling is allowed on this forum. Name calling without cause is not.



Thank you for conceding my point.
Oh, I got your petty little gist all okay JR, no worries there and you clearly don't have an explanation otherwise you'd have provided one already. It's not like you're shy when you think you've got an argument.

He did not insult the woman in any way as you like to think and the woman actually contradicts Jesus with her response if that's what He was doing and He sure doesn't admonish her for it does He? Why is that?

He then goes on to grant her what she clearly sought after so to use this case as any sort of justification for petty name calling is not only silly, it only embarrasses those who persist with it.
 

Arthur Brain

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It seems to me you don't think honesty is a necessary Christian attribute. I find that really sad.
Careful, you'll be getting called a child molesting queer before long and it'll all be above board or at least nothing will really be done about it...
 

Gary K

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Careful, you'll be getting called a child molesting queer before long and it'll all be above board or at least nothing will really be done about it...
Well. you know the old saying. sticks and stones can break your bones but words will never hurt me. I don't pay much attention to that kind of stuff. I don't see the point in wasting my time in hurt feelings.
 

Arthur Brain

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Well. you know the old saying. sticks and stones can break your bones but words will never hurt me. I don't pay much attention to that kind of stuff. I don't see the point in wasting my time in hurt feelings.
Oh, I didn't even bother reporting Nick M for it cos it's par for the course with the guy but it's telling that that sorta thing is not only tolerated but pretty much given a free pass on here nowadays, aside from Sherman at any rate.
 

Arthur Brain

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Gettin' a little hot under the collar, there, doggette?
Hardly, I'm not the one engaging in childish little insults. Maybe you can answer something in regards to the passage with the Canaanite woman and here it is:

A Canaanite woman from that region came to Jesus, crying out, "Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is demon-possessed and suffering terribly."

Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, "Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us."

He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel".

The woman came and knelt before him. "Lord, help me!" she said.

He replied, "It is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to the dogs".

"Yes Lord," she said. "But even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their master's table."

Then Jesus said to her:

"Woman, you have great faith! Your daughter is healed."

And her daughter was healed from that very hour.


If Jesus was solely insulting this woman and that was all He intended to do then why was He so impressed with her answer to Him? To the point of granting her the very request she'd been so relentless in pursuing? What, was He surprised by her response?

Any of you who think that Jesus went around flinging puerile insults at people need to royally buy a clue.
 

Arthur Brain

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Now you've just gone done changed your story. Before, you kept asininely telling @JudgeRightly that calling someone "doggette" is not an insult. But now, your hackles are raised as I've just called you "doggette", and you have admitted that it is an insult.
So, instead of engaging maturely and addressing the issue at hand you choose to act like this instead. Noted. FTR, I didn't at any time tell JR that calling someone a "doggette" wasn't an insult either. You sure didn't read through those exchanges very well...
 
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