I disagree.
Ask any MAD who has been here a long time if they've noticed my openness to listen to other viewpoints. Ask them if they have ever seen me change my position on things specific to MAD based on what I've learned here.
Go ahead, I'll wait. For example, ask the OV MADs the questions I've asked and of the times I acknowledged they made very good points that were worth considering.
However, one thing I never did to any of them, by brothers and sisters, is insinuate that they are doctrinal heretics for holding positions I do not see, or do not see yet, or DO see but don't agree with. Disagree politely? Yes. Disagree with tactics? Yes, sometimes I question some of their discussion style but I'm more than guilty of that too. But doctrine? Ask them if I've ever once been disrespectful or insulting to ANY of them over doctrine.
Again, I'll wait.
Of all MADs on TOL, you've cornered that market and have had a monopoly on it. And the constant, snide, smiley-laden contentiousness against brothers and sisters? That's all you.
But we're not to be keeping records of wrongs...right? So what's say we drop it.
1-My point has always been that constantly asserting views that not all MADs hold to without ever pointing that out is unfair to other MADs.
And I was not referring to you alone; that is your reading into my words.
2-As for your openess to comparing notes with other MADs; I have no doubt.
Have you been consistent in that? No. You have taken issue with me on devine intervention and so on; when all I have done has been to related my understanding of such things.
I have dropped it and never mentioned such things again to you, as you were very insistent I was up to some other agenda.
You are not alone in this other agenda nonsense I am supposedly up to.
3-I do not see the 28ers as heretics. I have even stated that much can be learned from them due to their focus on Paul's last 7 Epistles; which are advanced Body truth.
Thus, when I have joked that some MADs on TOL are "ALMOST 28ers" THAT is what that has been - a joking about it.
4-This MADs as brothers and sisters is fine. Should I conclude from that that you are insinuating that others on TOL are not brothers and sisters? I would if I were reading into your words in the way that you are reading into mine.
5-The only MAD on here who insinuates; who in fact, publicly asserts that those MADs who do not hold to these different understandings some MADS on TOL hold are enemies of the gospel of our salvation, is heir.
And she is not exactly nice about it :chuckle:
That's right - a :chuckle: - for you and some of yours to read into it what you obviously need to; other than my intent - that I find her insolence and insistence humurous.
6-Fact is, some of you; as insistent as you are on being in your face direct with others; you are very weak in being able to allow others the same towards you :chuckle:
Conclude what you want; none of of you treat anyone on TOL fairly whose views you strongly disagree with unless they have treated you with kid gloves despite your in your face directness towards them.
Do I dislike you and those who insist on thsat? At times; I do experience an irritation. When you attempt to pull this one sided nonsense with me.
It is a momentary irritation, though; much like that of a sibling who genuinely loves his own.
Proud of them when they score a touchdown in some manner; there with them when others attack them; irritated by them for a minute when they are unfair.
Ribbing them when they do or assert a thing that provokes a momentary amusement.
I am this clear in my words about all this because I am this clear in the practice of the principle of distinguishing between the things that differ.
That which is of greater value...
A value which is ironicly based on a different understanding of the following, in contrast to what some MADs understand Paul is actually talking about in verse 10 :chuckle:
Philippians 1:9 And this I pray, that your love may abound yet more and more in knowledge and in all judgment; 1:10 That ye may approve things that are excellent; that ye may be sincere and without offence till the day of Christ; 1:11 Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God.
Brother, what is the point of the things that differ principle if it is of no use outside of hitting others over the head with " that's not for us" (exclamation point :chuckle
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And if it is of no use in helping to root out the difference between what we are projecting as another's intent on them; in contrast to what their actual intent might actually be?
This icon :chuckle: 's use should be read in light of the things that differ principle as to who is being addressed by whom, as to what, in contrast to how it is used when others are being addressed.
The sooner some of you get beyond your limited view of said principle; the more you will be able to see with greater objectivity.
The need for rightly dividing a thing as to the things that differ is a constant in all areas of life - not just with some "dispensational" scheme (or map of things).
Take as good as you give; those of you who insist on being so direct; only to cry foul when you perceive another's words are some sort of an "up to no good."
Lastly, I thought of ignoring your post. But that only proves what I strongly do not believe - that we MADs do not have a means of dealing with our personal differences.
It is moments just like these that we can show others that MAD is way more than "you're an idiot - we're not Israel!"
I know this. Do you? Do all MADs on TOL. Apparantly not.
Does it have to be that way?
No.
Not if we will put Philippians 1:9-11 first, whenever we conclude that "hmm, so and so MAD, sees this, that, differently..."
You'll note, if you bother to; that as much as I strongly disagree with the various assertions of those not MAD on TOL; I just as readily voice my agreement with them where such is the case.
SOME of you MADS have read me wrong.
I have said all I need to on all this.
Do with it what you will.
Eph. 4:16.
