Once again, another Darby follower in denial.
If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.
The Hebrew Epistles: Where Do They Fit?
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Once again, another Darby follower in denial.
If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.
"Originally Posted by Grosnick Marowbe
You believe that,
Christ returned in 70AD in the form of the Roman army."
Tettie's response:"STP tells the lie, and you guys perpetuate the lie"
Habitual liar...
"Tet: "The LORD Jesus Christ returned in the form of a Roman Army." "-STP
"Never said that."-Tet.
That is your MO/"ministry" on TOL-habitual lying.
"Tet is a preterist that believes Christ already returned in 70 AD via the Roman Army."-Tambora, on another TOL thread
"Correct, and thanks for making it clear that it was the Roman army that was His return."-stupid Craigie
"The Roman army destroyed Jerusalem in 70AD. That is what Jesus meant when He said He will return."-Gomer Tet.
I can look like a duck, swim like a duck, and quack like a duck; but I ain't a duck.
Another one bites the dust.
Darby spam, and his oh so cute little "If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck" cliche.
That's cute, sweetie.
TOL members laugh at you, clown.
Moron - not only were they commanded and expected to do so, but they were expecting the Lord to return.
But with the Lord's unexpected interruption of His next stage in that as Israel headed towards His wrath - as Israel continued to persecute them in Israel's rebellion and subsequent fall - with God's interruption of said wrath, that He might reveal a Mystery He had planned to unfold, all that blessing proven merely a foretaste "of the world to come" after said wrath- Hebrews 2, you spiritually bankrupt moron - the result was that they ended up having to rely on the financial support of Paul's Mystery converts, Romans 15.
:bang::bang::bang::bang::bang:
"Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me." Luke 18:22 KJV
Do it, Craigie.
Exactly, you Darbyist, lol
nonanomanon
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Mysterious 10,000 Year Old Statue. Article Link.
I SAMUEL 18:7 And the women answered [one another] as they played, and said, Saul hath slain his thousands, and David his ten thousands.
REVELATION 5:11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;
REVELATION 15:3 And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous [are] thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true [are] thy ways, thou King of saints.
10,000 years ago at the very end of the Age of Dinosaurs ........ God created a perfect being, a being that was created without the knowledge of corruption ........ God revealed the perfection of turning Blood into Water, in order to deliver the Hebrews out of Egypt, and in doing so he had sent his only son, Moses - the Perfection. Later on in order to deliver the Hebrews out of the hands of the Canaanites. God once again resurrected Moses, as a perfect being, knowing no corruption from its creation. God had concealed his identity to reveal the wickedness of the Hebrews, and called David to slay Moses. .............. God called Moses once to suffer corruption, but from his creation he has not know corruption, and once to demonstrate perfection in the Old Testament, a process of turning "Blood into Water", God would only illustrate at the end of time.
Thousands of people are euthanized routinely, for even a limited or implied level of force used again Moses, because it exceeds the Gospel's design to subject the body of a perfect being to corruption. ................... Moses reigns over the corruption for 12,000 Days being subject to corruption, but from the beginning this was not so ........... then Moses reigns over corruption as a perfect begin, and from the beginning of his creation, this was so.
(Clarence Larkin's Chart study was cut short, to conceal this conclusion of the gospel ... because we are dealing with a public threat, one that is deceased more frequently then you can imagine as a result of the level of force, and 95% of human life on earth will be terminated in about 30 days, in part because of the corruption the Gospel does not afford to perfect begins, you have caused a perfect being. ............. we'll have a 10 hour walk tomorrow to break their spirit to kill themselves, since it was not my original intention to reveal this level of truth) (As a perfect being the Antichrist can make the viable claim that once is he deceased before the 3 Days of Darkness, all human life is terminated and the gospel's program is completed .............. even if you fall short, millions dead will simply be your rewards, there was talk of a tsunami recently)
"And all that believed were together, and had all things common; And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need." Acts 2:44 KJV , Acts 2:45 KJV
Do it, Craigie. Send us your 401(k) $'s. Oh yes, you don't work.
Don't you believe the bible, Craigie? We learned that from you, clown.
Then Peter began to say unto him, Lo, we have left all, and have followed thee." Mark 10:28 KJV
"Then Peter said, Lo, we have left all, and followed thee." Luke 18:28 KJV
Do it.
Don't you believe the bible, Craigie?
You Jack Lord-ist!
Jerry Shugart
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Here John is telling those to whom he was addressing that when the Lord Jesus appears that they will be like Him:
There was never a teaching in regard to kingdom saints which spoke of living saints being made like the Lord Jesus at His appearing so this has to refer to the rapture.
And it will only be those in the Body of Christ who will be raptured. Therefore, the saints who were being addressed by John were members of the Body of Christ.
"Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is" (1 Jn.3:2).
There was never a teaching in regard to kingdom saints which spoke of living saints being made like the Lord Jesus at His appearing so this has to refer to the rapture.
And it will only be those in the Body of Christ who will be raptured. Therefore, the saints who were being addressed by John were members of the Body of Christ.
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Jerry Shugart
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There is only one appearing of the Lord Jesus which can be described as "imminent" and that is the time when the living saints will be caught up to meet the Lord in the air.
The president of the Berean Bible Society is Paul Sadler and he is also a Neo-MADist. Here is what he says about the rapture:
The teaching that the rapture is "imminent" is supported by the following passage:
The Greek word eggus means "of times imminent" (Thayer's Greek English Lexicon).
Those to whom the epistle of James were addressed were also expecting an "imminent" appearance of the Lord Jesus:
The Greek word translated "is near" at James 5:8 is eggizo and in this verse that word means "to be imminent" (A Greek English Lexicon, Liddell & Scott [Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1940], 467).
It is obvious that there can only be one appearing of the Lord which can be described as being "imminent" then it cannot be denied that those to whom the epistle of James were addressed were waiting for the rapture.
One of the chief spokesmen within the Neo-MAD moment is Paul Sadler and he says the following:
Therefore, there can be no doubt whatsoever that those who originally received the book of Hebrews were in the Body of Christ.
The president of the Berean Bible Society is Paul Sadler and he is also a Neo-MADist. Here is what he says about the rapture:
"According to Paul's gospel the Rapture is 'imminent,' that is, it could take place at any moment. There are no signs, times, or seasons that will precede this glorious event" [emphasis mine] (Sadler, "The Present Obsession With the Anti-Christ," The Berean Searchlight, June, 1999, 7).
The teaching that the rapture is "imminent" is supported by the following passage:
"For our citizenship is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body...The Lord is at hand (eggus)" (Phil.3:20-21;4:5).
The Greek word eggus means "of times imminent" (Thayer's Greek English Lexicon).
Those to whom the epistle of James were addressed were also expecting an "imminent" appearance of the Lord Jesus:
"You too, be patient and stand firm, because the Lord's coming is near. Don't grumble against one another, brothers and sisters, or you will be judged. The Judge is standing at the door! " (Jas 5:8-9).
The Greek word translated "is near" at James 5:8 is eggizo and in this verse that word means "to be imminent" (A Greek English Lexicon, Liddell & Scott [Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1940], 467).
It is obvious that there can only be one appearing of the Lord which can be described as being "imminent" then it cannot be denied that those to whom the epistle of James were addressed were waiting for the rapture.
One of the chief spokesmen within the Neo-MAD moment is Paul Sadler and he says the following:
"The 'secret' resurrection that will take place at the Rapture should never be confused with the 'first' resurrection at the Second Coming of Christ. Those who rightly divide the Word of truth now see that only the members of the Body of Christ will be raised at the Rapture" [emphasis mine] (Sadler, Exploring the Unsearchable Riches of Christ [Stephens Point, WI: Worzalla Publishing Co., 1993], 167).
Therefore, there can be no doubt whatsoever that those who originally received the book of Hebrews were in the Body of Christ.
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Right. Paul explicitly states that they needed to be reconciled to Christ. He begged them.
Prove it's not the truth then? Darby awaits you.
By the way TeT, GM thinks you're a "LOON!"
So long as the Kano is the one from the new series, lol
They didn't sell the houses they lived in.
(Acts 8:3) But Saul began to destroy the church. Going from house to house, he dragged off both men and women and put them in prison.
If they sold the houses they lived in, then why later did Saul go "house to house" to find these people?
Later, Saul stayed in the house of Judas, who was a believer.
(Acts 9:11) The Lord told him, “Go to the house of Judas on Straight Street and ask for a man from Tarsus named Saul, for he is praying.
Why didn't Judas sell his house on Straight Street?
Still later, Peter stayed at the house of Simon of Joppa, who was a believer. Simon's house was by the sea:
(Acts 10:6) He is staying with Simon the tanner, whose house is by the sea.”
Why didn't Simon of Joppa sell his house by the sea?
Still later, after Peter escaped from jail, Peter stayed at Mary the mother of John's house:
(Acts 12:12) When this had dawned on him, he went to the house of Mary the mother of John, also called Mark, where many people had gathered and were praying.
Why didn't Mary the mother of John sell her house?
I could go on and on. Lydia's house is found in Acts 16:15, Jason's house is in 17:15, Aquila and Priscilla's house is in 18:1-3, Titus has a house in 18:11, Philip has a house in 21:8, and Mnason has a house in 21:16.
Also, MAD claims Paul was the first member in the BOC. Even though Paul tells us Aquilla and Priscilla were in Christ before him, MAD claims Aquilla and Priscilla were not in the BOC.
However, Aquilla and Priscilla have a house:
(Rom 16:5) Greet also the church that meets at their house.
Why didn't Aquilla and Priscilla sell their house?
Your Dispensationalism is a mess!
More Dispensational looniness.
Now you guys have to have a "secret resurrection" before the "first resurrection" in order for Darby's rapture to work out.
A secret parenthetical dispensation with a secret resurrection.......Dispensationalism is really a mess !!!!