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dodge
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Christians do not go to s sinful pope for direction they go to scripture and God.
Cruciform
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Just trying to spare you more public embarrassment. Have it your way (hey, that's the Protestant motto!).
dodge
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Only a false dilemma to the lost and deceived who have forsaken a relationship with God to follow evil and idolatrous men.
Cruciform
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Rather, they go to any number of Protestant sectarian informational sources (doctrinal traditions), from which they derive their beliefs, ideas, and assumptions. You are no exception.
dodge
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You embarrass yourself every time you attribute to men doing only what God can do.
dodge
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Wrong again, Christians pray to God and ONLY God unlike those that depend on other than God to do for them what only God can do.
Cruciform
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"...even when it contradicts dodge's preferred interpretations of Scripture," you mean. Big difference there.
dodge
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Ex. 20:4,5 says do not yet your ilk says do. I will stay with scripture.
Exo 20:4
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Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
Exo 20:5
Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
Cruciform
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When Protestants ask someone to pray for them, are they therefore "depending on other than God"? According to your pretzel logic above, they are.
dodge
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Nope, because when Christians ask another to pray for them they know the asked person will pray to God the Father and ONLY God the Father in Jesus' name as per scripture.
Cruciform
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dodge's tacit claim that Christ's Church---and Christians in general---did not exist until the 16th century is noted. :doh:
Cruciform
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Just like every single Protestant sectarian on the planet---including dodge.
Cruciform
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Doesn't mater, because you're asking someone who is not God to pray for you. Therefore, you're "depending on someone other than God." Correct?
dodge
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No exaggeration is to far out for you is it ?
Christians have been here since the moment that Jesus was crucified , and even before that.
The RCC did her very best to destroy Christianity during the dark ages, but God would not allow that to happen.
Remember the RCC during the inquisitions murdered many , many, many christians that would NOT pray to Mary nor submit to a sinful evil pope.
Then their next plan was to control the word of God and for many years made it a crime punishable by death to even have a bible in ones home.
But Thanks and Glory be to God that he made the RCC plan FAIL !
Cruciform
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Already answered---and decisively corrected---in the very post to which you're supposedly responding. Try again.
dodge
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YOU are working with nothing ! To ask one to pray to God for you is NOT the same as praying to Mary and dead people. You justify your idolatry to yourself ONLY.
dodge
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You cannot correct what you do not understand or believe. My faith IS IN GOD NOT YOUR EVIL ORGANIZATION.
dodge
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When I hear a sermon or someone tells me something ( anything ) related to God or scripture I read, pray , and study the scripture to see if what I am being told lines up with scripture.
Scripture says to study to show yourself approved unto God.
Scripture also says line upon line precept upon precept here a little there a little.
Hey, if you let someone spoon feed you deceptions and lies and do not study scripture YOURSELF then YOU are guilty of laziness and depending on others to do what God requires YOU to do.
How have you managed to deal with these guys for years without losing your mind.