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True, but I do NOT bow before IDOLS nor do I ray to Mary or any dead folks, which would make me an idolater.
See how that works ?
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True, but I do NOT bow before IDOLS nor do I ray to Mary or any dead folks, which would make me an idolater.
See how that works ?
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How odd, then, that Jesus himself appointed and ordained the apostles (men) to guide and teach his Church in his own name and by his very authority (Mt. 16:18-19/Is, 22:22; Mt. 20:18-20; Lk. 10:16; Ac. 16:4; ), establishing a hierarchical governmental structure (made up of human beings) in his Church which has remained right down to our own day. God has always worked his divine purposes through human agents and agencies, and primarily through Christ's one historic Catholic Church. This fact is demonstrated on every page of the New Testament. So much, then, for your above entirely irrational---not to mention unbiblical---claim.
Gaudium de veritate,
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Already answered---and decisively corrected---in Post #3013 above.
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You're simply wrong [SOURCE] [SOURCE].
Also, there are canonical Old Testament books accepted by all Protestants as divinely inspired which Jesus and the apostles never quote. Should we, then, throw out those particular Old Testament books as well? Didn't think so. Thus, your "argument" above simply falls flat. "Quotation" does not equal "canonicity." :nono:
the church teaches:
-redemption
-repentance
-forgiveness
-grace
-work
-mercy
-redemption
-repentance
-forgiveness
-grace
-work
-mercy
By the way, I DID vote for Romney AND McCain.
I was not going to let you somehow justify you letting Hillary win by dragging my voting record into a thread about YOU not voting for Trump. If Hillary wins it will be because of petty snotty Republicans who are butt-hurt over the way he talks. If the shoe fits wear it
Already did and theomatics already denied by unrengerates as predicted by God. Breathed by God means just that. The extras are not breathed according to scientific facts recently discovered by ivan panin. Go ahead deny them
Does everyone realize that Roman Catholics don't even believe themselves. They cherry pick the verse "whatever you bind on earth" to prove the supremacy of the Roman bishop, yet they don't even believe that "whatever" He binds is binding. They limit "whatever" to "only when he speaks ex cathedra on faith & morals."
The breadth of your ignorance is breathtaking
"For how can we adopt those things which we do not find in the holy Scriptures?”
Ambrose -- On the Duties of the Clergy; Book 1 Ch. 23.102
Wow. You really devastated Catholics with that barb.
If only Protestants were ever guilty of explaining away plain Scripture as figurative and not literal . . . . :think:
Not that I concede your point, mind you, which I don't. But let's say you're right---you as a Protestant are more guilty of this than the Catholic Church is, and by a wide, wide margin. Orders of magnitude.
You missed it-slower....More than one church in the book.
You-all is figurative, maybe literal
vs.
Sane people, who study. survey the book-the assumption, default is literal.
Contrasts.
Now-take your seat. Thank you, student drone.
Yeah, and? The Matthew 16 Church=the Acts 2 Church=the Ephesians 5 Church. Those are all One Church.
I don't think so. :nono:That's what I think too.
I don't see any contrasts.
You politely insulted me.
Made up. The body of Christ, the church, in this dispensation, is part of the mystery-kept secret. There is more than one group of called out ones, in the book. You "blend" them, not studying the details, distinguishing them.
Now-I remind you-take your seat.
OK.
Right, the ones in the wilderness with Moses (Ac7:38KJV), and the Lord Jesus Christ's Church (Mt16:18KJV,Mt18:17KJV,Ac2:47KJV,Eph5:25KJV).
No I don't.