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I repeat, No. He was MADE little lower than the angels, remember. Are angels spirit?
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I repeat, No. He was MADE little lower than the angels, remember. Are angels spirit?
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Where does it say that? I read the "Word became flesh" but, not the Father became flesh. That will come later for Him when the future Heaven and Earth become a reality per Isaiah 9:6 KJV.
What about Numbers 23:19 . The Son of Man is Jesus. Isaiah is messianic prophecy, but note; will be called as such meaning it is prophecy Jesus will be called G-d
So i'm saying G-d is not man
"And the Spirit and the bride say, “Come!" (Revelation 22:17)
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Jesus is God the Father come as the Son of God.
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So you don't believe humans have a spirit, their own spirit inside of them?
A see-through spirit that looks like them?
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All humans have spirits that live inside their flesh bodies.
Jesus had his own Spirit within him. It was and is the Spirit of God.
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The child has already been born. He was born to Mary.
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A better way is to say G-d send Jesus his only begotten Son. 1 John 4:9
There's also 2 Chronicles 6:18
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How can you guys ever find the truth when you pay no attention to specifics? You guys are saying all kinds of things that are not in the original text. Buy or go online to find study material. Do not take anyone's word for things. The truth is not always what we want it to be, so don't have a closed mind.
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That's interesting. What books would you buy?
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NO, The Word was God and the Word came in the flesh. John 1:1, John 1:14
Show me the verse...like I just showed you.
nikolai_42
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I would say that the primary concern would come down to the statement that God even could be more man than God. For that matter, Him being more God than man would seem to be missing the point as well. While I don't see evidence that He was more one than the other, the dominant controversy of His ministry was His identity as God :
He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all.
And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony.
He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true.
For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.
John 3:31-34
Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am
John 8:57-58
God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:
Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:
They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment;
And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail.
But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?
Hebrews 1:1-13
These samples of scripture speak to a unique manifestation of someone who is certainly higher than angels and identifies Himself directly with God of the OT. That is either blasphemy or the ground of His authority and mandate for the ministry He executes faithfully on earth.
Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?
Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
John 14:9-10
This does not appear to be what man was intended to be in Adam. Rather, this is Adam's Creator coming to Adam personally (again!) as Savior to reconcile him back to God. That reconciliation doesn't equate him with God (as it seems you would do with Christ and unfallen Adam) but puts him back where he is to be in the Divine economy - a little lower than the angels (Psalm 8:5, Hebrews 2:7-9). I don't see how Jesus is a little lower than the angels if the angels worship Him.
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1 Corinthians 8:6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father,
Ephesians 4:6
one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.
Did you read those?
One God and He is the Father.
Since Jesus is God, then he is also the Father, because there is only one and He is the Father.
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Those scriptures do not disprove that God came as a Son in the flesh.
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No. Jesus' Spirit IS the Holy Spirit of God.
The scriptures tell us that plainly.
Now all you have to do is believe.
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Your talk is insulting and cheap. Prove it that what I said is false. Prove it with the scriptures you claim you know. I already know you are full of falseness because you came off saying what you did.
Lower than the angels at his human birth, but he was later born of the Spirit.
"That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is Spirit." (John 3:6)
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Why do you keep saying that? Jesus is the Spirit. Jesus' words are Spirit.