flintstoned
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I'm not sure I follow....
How was your dad NOT married if you say he was married to your mom?
Same sex marriages are all null, according to Christians
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I'm not sure I follow....
How was your dad NOT married if you say he was married to your mom?
kiwimacahau
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Who cares?
Before my Dad married my Mom he was not married. I am my Mother's firstborn.
Oh.
Evil.Eye.*{@}*
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2 Corinthians and Galatians are keys to the misconception made from 1 Corinthians 11.
Paul scathingly rebuked Peter for separating from gentile sinners in Galatians.
In 2 Corinthians 2... especially 2nd Corinthians 2:11, Paul explains he was testing Corinth. He called disfellowship a tool of Satan and explained Forgivness was the standard.
Any other doctrine is half cocked rubbish.
So 1st Corinthians 11:27-29 KJV is "half cocked rubbish," and "rainbow flags" aren't? You believe that the Church should welcome unrepentant grave sinners into communion?
"For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus. For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication: That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour; Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God...."
---1st Thessalonians 4:2-5 KJV *
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flintstoned
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So what does this factoid have to do with my original reply to your comment:
Flintstoned said:
My older-half brother was born to my Father. This does not mean that my birth from my Mother who was married to my Father, my Dad, was from a second marriage. However, it may be argued that my Dad should have married the woman with whom he had my older-half brother. I also know that a second marriage can occur after the spouse of a first marriage dies, or else more than one marriage without divorce or annulment involves being married to more than one person at a time, albeit a father or man with more than one wife. Could it be that they were not married and then she would not have him to be her husband? But then I am not only talking about my Dad, or Father, and my own Mom, my Mother. And that they married.
Should my older-half brother be allowed or required to answer for what I now have with you?
Shalom.
Jacob
genuineoriginal
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1 John 5:16-17 16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it. 17 All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death. |
A "grave" or "mortal" sin is a "sin unto death".
oatmeal
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What the carnally minded people of this world do is not going to please God whatsoever.
They are after all, carnally minded, not spiritually minded
The Christian who is spiritually minded recognizes that a marriage is s commitment to God and to the spouse.
Marriage is between a believing man and a believing woman.
Believing scripture, not social media, not the trends of this world.
Marriage by design includes the creator of the heaven and earth.
His word tells us what a marriage is
Homosexuality is a sin and sin has no place in marriage.
No sin belongs in any Christians life, but we do err at times, but we need to make sure our lifestyle is according to the word of God.
A man and woman who are civilly married to each other, where one or both of them are civilly divorced and their ex is still alive, is adultery. That's what the Lord said. That civil marriage is not valid. Same sex civil marriages are not valid either.
kiwimacahau
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Sin can be defined as "missing the mark." The mark which is set, arguably, by God. I would define sin as "manipulating and deliberately hurting another person." For me then a sinful act is one which deliberately sets out to harm others. Mere homosexual sex is no more inherently sinful than mere heterosexual sex.
As for the canard that sex is solely for procreation, that is why we prevent infertile people and the elderly from marriage because they cannot have children .... Oh! wait, we don't.
WizardofOz
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That might be how Ray McIntyre defines sin but that's not how the bible defines sin. Sin is transgressing divine law. Homosexual acts are forbidden by divine law. You can argue that it should be legal but you cannot argue that it is not a sin.
Maybe your bible is missing some pages :idunno:
Strawman. I didn't make that argument. However, humor me. If a man wants to marry his son, should that be against secular law or should that be legal?
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kiwimacahau
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I am not bound in my understanding by the words and worldviews of folk two millenia ago. My job, here and now, is to follow my Lord who fellowshipped with all kinds of undesirable folk.
genuineoriginal
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Isn't it wonderful that you teach the lost that God was mistaken in assigning the harshest punishment for the sin of homosexual acts?
By accepting your teachings they can stay lost!
kiwimacahau
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Show me one word from Christ about homosexuality. Moreover show me one reason I should accept that the Levites of 4k years ago know more about homosexuality than we do today.
Tihei Mauri ora
marhig
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So you might as well not believe in any of the Bible then or Christ Jesus? As Jesus himself also preached two millennia ago as did his apostles, one of which was Paul who filled with the Holy Spirit taught it was wrong to commit gay acts!
Yes, Jesus did mix with everyone, whatever their sin, but he also taught them to turn from sin, and gay relationships are a sin. But only God knows the hearts of others, but we are to speak the truth and leave God to do the judging.
God's Truth
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Right; and, Jesus mixed only with those who repented of their sins; they were baptized with John's baptism of repentance.
God's Truth
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See Matthew 19:4"Haven't you read," he replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,'
Matthew 19:5
and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'?
See that? A person isn't to became united with their same gender.