they don't like work
ECT SALVATION: OLD TESTAMENT VS NEW
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they don't like work
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Die to self. That is the "works of God" for every man new born from above. That is the cross we must pick up every morning. Dying to self is the beginning of our journey on the agape road that leads us home to Father's House. When you cross the "deathline" you will find Jesus as being the Alpha and Omega of your journey. He must lead the way and it is not a way of presumption or "lawlessness" in Him where we are allowed to do our own 'spiritual' thing in His name and believe it is OK. Jesus said, "I only do what I see My Father doing". We are given to do no differently. If you are willing, this should give you better understanding of John 17:3.
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How can one even begin to do that without being born again? And then how can one do it without the power of Pentecost in his life?
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Concentrated Centring on God
(Romans 8:3)
"If we would concentrate on God we must mortify our religious self-will. Our Lord refused to be self-willed religiously, and it was this that staggered the Pharisees. We are self-willed religiously, consequently we tell God we do not intend to concentrate on Him, we only intend to concentrate on our idea of what the saintly life should be, and before long we find that the pressing in of the life of God ceases and we begin to wilt. We are living a religiously self-centred life and the communication of life from God comes no longer. We must beware of turning away from God by grubbing amongst our own experiences.
God does not expect us to imitate Jesus Christ: He expects us to allow the life of Jesus to be manifested in our mortal flesh. God engineers circumstances and brings us into difficult places where no one can help us, and we can either manifest the life of Jesus in those conditions, or else be cowards and say, “I cannot exhibit the life of God there.” Then we deprive God of glory. If you will let the life of God be manifested in your particular human edition—where God cannot manifest it, that is why He called you, you will bring glory to God.
The spiritual life of a worker is literally, God manifest in the flesh."
. . . . .Oswald Chambers, "Approved Unto God"
(Romans 8:3)
"If we would concentrate on God we must mortify our religious self-will. Our Lord refused to be self-willed religiously, and it was this that staggered the Pharisees. We are self-willed religiously, consequently we tell God we do not intend to concentrate on Him, we only intend to concentrate on our idea of what the saintly life should be, and before long we find that the pressing in of the life of God ceases and we begin to wilt. We are living a religiously self-centred life and the communication of life from God comes no longer. We must beware of turning away from God by grubbing amongst our own experiences.
God does not expect us to imitate Jesus Christ: He expects us to allow the life of Jesus to be manifested in our mortal flesh. God engineers circumstances and brings us into difficult places where no one can help us, and we can either manifest the life of Jesus in those conditions, or else be cowards and say, “I cannot exhibit the life of God there.” Then we deprive God of glory. If you will let the life of God be manifested in your particular human edition—where God cannot manifest it, that is why He called you, you will bring glory to God.
The spiritual life of a worker is literally, God manifest in the flesh."
. . . . .Oswald Chambers, "Approved Unto God"
how are you born again?
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By faith with the evidence of it being a compelling need for the knowing of God by Jesus Christ and the eradication of all indifference in the matter. __ "to be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, [or church membership] but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:
That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death" Philippians 3:9-10 (KJV)
You will know if and when that happens.
how will I know it?
is that the only passage you have that convinces you that you are born again?
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Here is an excellent answer:
"Immediately a man becomes spiritual by being born from above, the Bible becomes his authority, because he discerns a law in his conscience that has no objective resting place save in the Bible; and when the Bible is quoted, instantly his intuition says, “Yes, that must be the truth”; not because the Bible says so, but because he discerns what the Bible says to be the word of God for him. When a man is born from above he has a new internal standard, and the only objective standard that agrees with it is the word of God as expressed in the Bible." . . .Oswald Chambers
Do you understand??
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nor can the church
but
we are talking about authority based on your quote from chambers
so
why didn't Jesus say
on this rock I will build my bible
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Because the Bible is only the Authority of the Rock --and that "Authority" is Jesus Christ!!
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What was the Rock He said He would build it upon? Peter?? Not a chance.. If a man is who you believe to be the "rock", why not pick Paul? He had more revelations than Peter.
why did He say church?
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What is the church but the Body of Christ. Ergo, not Peter. Peter and the others eventually only belong to it. The founding of it was by Jesus Christ who used the words of Peter to express what it was to founded upon.. see it now?
why did Jesus ask peter to feed His sheep?
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Death being the only enemy, why then did he not just die as a baby?
good question
I am anxious to see how arsenious answers it
if
he can do it with a short post
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Ask a catholic friend. You just want to argue. I 'm not interested.