Yes.
(Rom 3:23 KJV) for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
Without a Levite Priest, how do I know which ones I have committed?
Robert's Gospel According to the Apostle Paul
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Yes.
(Rom 3:23 KJV) for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
Without a Levite Priest, how do I know which ones I have committed?
I got a speeding ticket today...I argued with the cop “BUT BUT BUT the drivers ahead of me FULFILLED the speed limit requirement so that speed limit and all traffic laws are abolished right?”
He gave me a breathalyzer test...LOL
Ok that last part was false witness...ok only the first part wasnt...
Terrible analogy.
Christ Jesus fulfilled the law.
HINT: think of the state trooper as a Levite priest.
Jesus was circumcised on the 8th day.
Should every male born today be circumcised on the 8th day?
Correct-you cannot break a law, that is not defined,objectively.No law..no transgression.
You: Eliminate the law, so that no one can break it, no transgression, no sin, no sin debt, no penalty..
You: There is no law, defining sin/transgression. so, Christ did not die for our sins, as there is no sin debt incurred, since there is no law anymore, objectively defining it.In the USA, all highways have speed limits.
No, if I get caught, I must pay the price/penalty/"debt.." "Free from the law," from a biblical perspective, means that we no longer have the law as our "rule" for our life style, as our tutor. It does not mean that the law no longer exists-false dichotomy.
We break God's holy law. We are caught....Thus, the solution is not to eliminate the law, so that there is no sin debt/"fine"/penalty incurred, so that there is no no condemnation/judgment. Nea-we break God's holy, spiritual, not void law, and we would be condemned/judged, if not for the Saviour taking our place, taking our judgment/condemnation, "paying the speeding fine" for us-paying the penalty-the law still stands-it exists.
=Christ died for our sins, "paying our fine," paying for sin debt...
Correct. If there is no speed limit, no one can be judged/condemned for breaking it.
Grow a brain.
If there is a speed limit,it exists, if you break it, you must pay the fine, or someone else pay it for you.
You missed it, as usual.
You: You cannot say there is a law of God, but, at the same time, say some are exempt from it.
Vs.
Christian:There is an existing forever law of God, that defines what sin/transgression is, and we are all guilty of breaking it, but those that are "exempt"(your words) from the penalty, debt, fine, for breaking, by definition, that same EXISTING law of God, are those that trust in the dbr, as the Lord Jesus Christ took our judgment, our condemnation,upon Himself, in our place, as He paid the fine/sin debt,so that justice is served.
Quite a Saviour.
And that is the good news.
John,
I must say, I really miss the good ole days of TOL, when you and I could call each other all kinds of names.
However, I guess we have to be civil now.
Yeah I bet I can guess which law changed for you...it is always the same one...
9 of the 10 remain but that Sabbath one...oh no that changed...we under grace...dont apply to us or some other fuh fuh fuh
Lol
The law cannot be broken into pieces. It exists as a whole, or doesn't exist at all.
(James 2:10 KJV) For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all.
The whole law changed, not just parts of it.
So I can speed now?
or will some other police Officer show me a ticket and either pay for it Himself or put me in jail cuz I reject his offer and dont have the money to pay myself?
Or will this new officer say “go ahead and speed...I got you covered”...or “I abolished the laws”
Just cuz that ordinance against me was abolished dont abolish the whole traffic law...or ministration of it...by yes yes New Officer
Changed into what then please...which ones remain?
John, the writer of Hebrews tells us the law changed:
(Heb 7:12 KJV) For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
You keep saying that the Law of Moses tells us what is a sin, and what isn't. Please tell us what law changed?
Actually a better translation believe it or not is TRANSFERED not changed...
So the ministration was transferred so duh the law was too...
https://biblethingsinbibleways.word...nged-misunderstandings-regarding-hebrews-712/
The law is whole.
Again, you can't pick it apart.
Some are obvious. There is no temple. There is no High Priest. There are no burnt offerings at the temple.
(Rom 8:2 KJV) For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
The new law is the Spirit filled life in Christ Jesus.
Not seeing your list of things we dont keep from the OT list...
In case you dont scroll back to previous post I added this
https://biblethingsinbibleways.word...nged-misunderstandings-regarding-hebrews-712/
Oh goody a new spirit filled life...Holy Spirit or just any spirit...a Spirit that guides you into keeping the Law or just whatever whenever...
A lifestyle CONTRARY to what Yahushua lived?...or just selectively modified due to schedule constraints...
Hi meshak.
So nice to hear from you. Hope all is well.
To answer your question, let's look at what Paul said:
(Eph 5:18 KJV) And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;
The verse is the best example of how I can explain it. It's a VOLUNTARY decision, that is rooted in what Christ Jesus said:
(Matt 22:37-40 KJV) Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
In my opinion, that's how we live the Spirit filled life in Christ Jesus.
We are not robots, and our volition doesn't end once we are saved.
Warmest Regards,
tet
We keep NOTHING from the OT.
Christ Jesus fulfilled the OT (law and prophets)
I live in the New Covenant.
Which Covenant do you live in?
Holy Spirit
The Law was fulfilled by Christ Jesus.
We now live in a new law, a new priesthood, and a new covenant.
Quit trying to put new wine in old wineskins!
No human being did/can/will live the "lifestyle" that Christ Jesus lived.
You appear very confused as to what covenant you live under.
Could you please tell us?