Riots in Ferguson MO. USA

[quip]

Then why does it matter to so many people here that he be guilty of stealing a pack of cheap cigars?

Character issue.

 

[Ktoyou]

That's what gets cops in trouble all the time. They're taught to keep the "upper hand" at all times, and so they don't understand that there are some scenarios when the best solution is to just back off.

In this particular case, you would be right. It would have been better to call it in and drive off, and the reason. The kid was very messed up, as if looking for the ultra-violence.
Not all cops are bad, not all ghetto minded kids, and race is not the central issue.

 

[Angel4Truth]

Came across this, real nice, its ok to loot, but they should be doing it in white neighborhoods...rich

‘Loot … and rob them, not your own'; Twitter users advise black people to loot white neighborhoods

 

[Ktoyou]

ha ha, never happen, and that is more class than race. We do have a class system in USA

 

[quip]

Came across this, real nice, its ok to loot, but they should be doing it in white neighborhoods...rich

‘Loot … and rob them, not your own'; Twitter users advise black people to loot white neighborhoods

It'd make more of a political/social statement...but if you thought police response was bad now................:dizzy:

 

[Angel4Truth]

It'd make more of a political/social statement...but if you thought police response was bad now................:dizzy:

Statement of what?

 

[Town Heretic]

ha ha, never happen, and that is more class than race. We do have a class system in USA

Well if there's one thing a number of people around here can't be accused of it's interjecting class into the debate. lain:

 

[Ktoyou]

Well if there's one thing a number of people around here can't be accused of it's interjecting class into the debate. lain:

WE both know it is, as an issue, paramount.

 

[Zeke]

I don't really want stats. Statistics are a field given to much ambiguity for many reasons. They may or may not have any relation to fact or reality.

It's undeniable that there's an epidemic of single-mom families, and that includes blacks. Why can't we represent the truth of racIAL facts without resorting to it being considered racIST.

I have no malicious hatred of intent by saying such things, and they must be applied equitably to all people groups. Ethnicity is just a descriptive field like a spreadsheet header for a column. It needn't be automatic hate-mongering.

I'm a volunteer Prison Chaplain, and its a bare fact that there's a larger number of blacks incarcerated than other races. That points up a concern to focus attention for resolution of inequities, not an opportunity to insist I'm a racist for daring mention skin pigmentation.

Genetically, the amount of melanin in the cells for skin coloration is amongst the smallest distinction between humans. Identical twins are more different than blacks and whites in this context. So I think it's vital to recognize the objective truths of race as one of the components in evaluating causal factors to determine effective solutions.

Why can't we embrace THAT mentality instead of alleged tolerance, especially as professing Christians?

I minister to more blacks in county jails and state prisons than any other race. I serve them by washing them with the water of the Word, and we have a true and mutual agape love. And part of that includes addressing race openly with much love. It's the only way.

Did you show them an ID to enter the prison? Better think carefully about that answer seeing your past claims about a legal name and all. Anyone want a real liberating testimony from a free soul listen to Micheal Mcclains video on how he was jailed and released because he claimed no legal name, and was in universal love without labels, even converted some christians into the real agape love instead of imprisoning them with more dogma and false rhetoric from MR love here.

 

[Zeke]

I don't really want stats. Statistics are a field given to much ambiguity for many reasons. They may or may not have any relation to fact or reality.

It's undeniable that there's an epidemic of single-mom families, and that includes blacks. Why can't we represent the truth of racIAL facts without resorting to it being considered racIST.

I have no malicious hatred of intent by saying such things, and they must be applied equitably to all people groups. Ethnicity is just a descriptive field like a spreadsheet header for a column. It needn't be automatic hate-mongering.

I'm a volunteer Prison Chaplain, and its a bare fact that there's a larger number of blacks incarcerated than other races. That points up a concern to focus attention for resolution of inequities, not an opportunity to insist I'm a racist for daring mention skin pigmentation.

Genetically, the amount of melanin in the cells for skin coloration is amongst the smallest distinction between humans. Identical twins are more different than blacks and whites in this context. So I think it's vital to recognize the objective truths of race as one of the components in evaluating causal factors to determine effective solutions.

Why can't we embrace THAT mentality instead of alleged tolerance, especially as professing Christians?

I minister to more blacks in county jails and state prisons than any other race. I serve them by washing them with the water of the Word, and we have a true and mutual agape love. And part of that includes addressing race openly with much love. It's the only way.

I want the name of the prison and number as well, you can leave it on a PM, just want to check out your story to see if you really don't use a legal name hot shot.

 

[Angel4Truth]

Whatever the may have/may not have scenario in the store, Brown assaulted the officer and walked away. Then he turned to "bumrush" the assaulted officer.

Was the police pre-maturely militarized? Yes.
Are the police and other jurisdictions purposely escalating and taking advantage of the opportunity to assault innocents? Yes.
Is it provoking other idiots to stupid actions? Yes.
Are all individuals STILL responsible for their own illegal actions? Yes.
Is this being used to promote unrest and instability as another trial-run for martial law on a local level? Yes.
Is the media being controlled and manipulated? Yes.
Are constitutional civil rights being violated? Yes.
Is it ALL for the purpose of inciting class warfare via racial tension? Yes.

Well said, all of the above.

 

[IMJerusha]

Then why does it matter to so many people here that he be guilty of stealing a pack of cheap cigars?

Because it speaks to his character and demeanor at the time he was stopped by Officer Wilson. It speaks about his MO when dealing with people in authority. It doesn't matter what the price of the cigars was. It matters how he conducted himself when reminded he needed to pay for said cigars. It matters how he conducted himself when told to repair to the sidewalk as opposed to the road. The two incidents proved a consistent way of behaving.
Is there a reason why you feel his action in the market should be ignored?

 

[PneumaPsucheSoma]

Was the quote yours? No. I was not calling you a racist.

Yes, I know.

It was a general appeal to all readership on the topic while addressing you responsively. I didn't intend to indicate an inference of you calling me a racist.

Race MUST be a part of any discussion of this type. And for it to be, the distinction between racIAL and racIST must be both allowable and preferable. To omit the former is to exaggerate the latter.

I'd just like to see a great emphasis on categorizing all assertions and allusions to either descriptor. Today's culturally engineered climate combines them and claims anything relative to race is hate-mongering.

I don't presume anything of you as I respond to the topic when conversing with you.

 

[PneumaPsucheSoma]

The Michael Brown shooting happened preemptively?

No. The amassing of militarized prep for the police was immediate and preemptive relative to the crowds.

I'm looking at Christian media sources.

I'm not sure what those are, but okay.

 

[Bright Raven]

There are riots because they want to loot and steal.

 

[PneumaPsucheSoma]

Did you show them an ID to enter the prison? Better think carefully about that answer seeing your past claims about a legal name and all. Anyone want a real liberating testimony from a free soul listen to Micheal Mcclains video on how he was jailed and released because he claimed no legal name, and was in universal love without labels, even converted some christians into the real agape love instead of imprisoning them with more dogma and false rhetoric from MR love here.

I want the name of the prison and number as well, you can leave it on a PM, just want to check out your story to see if you really don't use a legal name hot shot.

You don't actually know much about extraction from the system, evidently. Nobody needs your false and bllind Esotericist Self-Divinity tripe. You're part of the problem, not the solution.

And no, I will not give you such personal information. You can presume whatever you wish, just as you always do. You don't know how to "straddle" the system without compromise via use of the legal name. It's not that difficult to accomplish this, but hell-for-all if you do it wrong.

We're on the subject of civil unrest and racial tension with class warfare. Do try to stay on topic rather than engaging in a personal vendetta because I've owned you and you're still comatose instead of extracted.

:execute:

 

[Nick M]

What is funny is how the libs in this thread think they can scare white people into being branded racist by opposing the racially motivated riots by bigots.

 

[Angel4Truth]

What is funny is how the libs in this thread think they can scare white people into being branded racist by opposing the racially motivated riots by bigots.

It worked on people to get them to vote for obama, so i guess they think it will work here. Remember racism only goes one way, and only whites commit it.

 

[PneumaPsucheSoma]

What is funny is how the libs in this thread think they can scare white people into being branded racist by opposing the racially motivated riots by bigots.

Didn't you know? ALL conservatives, Christians, patriots, and many others are all racists. And terrorists. Domestic terrorist racists.

Be tolerant. They aren't, but you need to be. See how that works?

:dizzy::doh::dizzy::doh::dizzy::doh::dizzy::doh:

 

[Angel4Truth]

Didn't you know? ALL conservatives, Christians, patriots, and many others are all racists. And terrorists. Domestic terrorist racists.

Be tolerant. They aren't, but you need to be. See how that works?

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yes and sadly when the dust settles and this all clears, they will still have their broken community with much less business and opportunities and the message they have sent also is that business needs to stay out of primarily black areas which will cause even more poverty and decay and they don't see how they are playing into their own stereotypes especially when they don't decry the looting and destruction but instead start screaming they need to take it to other communities and do it in "white" communities...

And the liberal media is right there egging it on. Its like they want a race war. Truth doesn't matter.