freelight
Eclectic Theosophist
Self-realization is primary....before all other information
Self-realization is primary....before all other information
Hi zippy,
Long time no dialogue. I'll take the above with a grain of salt. Now to the real meat -
Reality itself is Self-evident as the light of consciousness itself, or that light behind consciousness that makes it possible. It is what IS....forever and always, unchanging, unborn, undying, omnipresent. I am that.
While I could address each other your 'assumptions' or 'assertions' above, I'll leave you with the pure teaching of 'Advaita' and the teachers such as 'Nisargadatta Maharaj' and 'Ramana Maharshi' to inquire of, for starters. While many know I'm very eclectic in my approach in universal philosophy, science and metaphysics,...I always come back to the basics of realization of the 'Self', which is the only base, ground and center of 'reality' whereby all or anything is known. The I AM ever remains as pure light. - all begins and ends in that sphere of consciousness. However, there is a more primal awareness that is prior to it that is without beginning or end. The 'I Am' is the door or gate to 'that', which is its source.
pj
Self-realization is primary....before all other information
This is well-said. Freelight & Co. are in some ways quarantined and ignored by the majority of TOLers, but this sort of clear response is necessary from time to time, hard as it is for some to hear.
The declarations made in threads like these certainly do not have any support. To try to compare them with principled systematic thinking of any kind--be it philosophy, theology, hard science, etc.--would be a great mistake. Beyond that, they don't even rise to the coherence of more esoteric religion like orthodox Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism, Mystical Islam, or anything else of the like. It's really just a mockery of every world religion and serious system of thought all at once. I could literally program a computer to spew out a mish-mash of juxtaposed ideas and words indistinguishable from those that fill threads like these, silly New-Age bookstores, and ultimately garage-sale tables and landfills.
If you are buying these contentless books today, there is a 100% chance that they will be in your garage sale or your garbage 5-10 years from now. You don't have to believe me, you just have to wait a few years.
The obsession in question is simply another form of idolatry; excessively politically correct idolatry, but idolatry nonetheless. It is a more subtle form of egoism. I myself prefer the more direct egoism of the overzealous scientist or investor, since they actually have a chance at producing something worthwhile.
Hi zippy,
Long time no dialogue. I'll take the above with a grain of salt. Now to the real meat -
Reality itself is Self-evident as the light of consciousness itself, or that light behind consciousness that makes it possible. It is what IS....forever and always, unchanging, unborn, undying, omnipresent. I am that.
While I could address each other your 'assumptions' or 'assertions' above, I'll leave you with the pure teaching of 'Advaita' and the teachers such as 'Nisargadatta Maharaj' and 'Ramana Maharshi' to inquire of, for starters. While many know I'm very eclectic in my approach in universal philosophy, science and metaphysics,...I always come back to the basics of realization of the 'Self', which is the only base, ground and center of 'reality' whereby all or anything is known. The I AM ever remains as pure light. - all begins and ends in that sphere of consciousness. However, there is a more primal awareness that is prior to it that is without beginning or end. The 'I Am' is the door or gate to 'that', which is its source.
pj