Reconciled to God while enemies !
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beloved57
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They shall be also saved by His Life !
Rom 5:10
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
This is one scripture with the Truth it contains, it assures us that Christ did not die for the sins of all mankind, unless all mankind shall be saved by His Life ! And we know the bible does not teach that all mankind without exception shall be saved by the Life of Christ !
However we know from this scripture : Those Christ died for were, while yet being enemies/unbelievers, reconciled to God ! How ? By the Death of His Son, that's how !
Now this being reconciled to God by His Sons death denotes forgiveness of sins, and here's why !
The word reconciled here katallassō and its the same word Paul uses in 2 Cor 5:19
19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
And this reconciliation consists of non imputation of their sins, which is forgiveness of sins according to scripture Ps 32:1-2
Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered.
2 Blessed is the man unto whom the Lord imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.
Rom 4:7-8
7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
So those in the world of 2 Cor 5:19, because of non imputation of their trespasses unto them, they are most blessedly forgiven and reconciled to God Rom 5:10, which is solely by the death of Christ for them, not because of their repentance, or believing, because it occurred while they were still being enemies !
Rom 5:10
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
This is one scripture with the Truth it contains, it assures us that Christ did not die for the sins of all mankind, unless all mankind shall be saved by His Life ! And we know the bible does not teach that all mankind without exception shall be saved by the Life of Christ !
However we know from this scripture : Those Christ died for were, while yet being enemies/unbelievers, reconciled to God ! How ? By the Death of His Son, that's how !
Now this being reconciled to God by His Sons death denotes forgiveness of sins, and here's why !
The word reconciled here katallassō and its the same word Paul uses in 2 Cor 5:19
19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
And this reconciliation consists of non imputation of their sins, which is forgiveness of sins according to scripture Ps 32:1-2
Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered.
2 Blessed is the man unto whom the Lord imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.
Rom 4:7-8
7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
So those in the world of 2 Cor 5:19, because of non imputation of their trespasses unto them, they are most blessedly forgiven and reconciled to God Rom 5:10, which is solely by the death of Christ for them, not because of their repentance, or believing, because it occurred while they were still being enemies !
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beloved57
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They shall be also saved by His Life !2
However, this aspect of their reconciliation and forgiveness by the death of Christ, still leaves them in spiritual death, or dead in trespasses and sins as in Eph 2:1,5
And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved)
So by nature, even though those Christ died for are dead in sin, they still have been forgiven of all them, and reconciled to God, even while they are spiritually dead !
But here is where the Promise comes in, which states, those reconciled to God by Christ's death, while they are yet enemies, dead in sin, they shall be saved by/in His Life !
This means that they shall be saved out of that dead state of enmity and being enemies, by His Life, they shall be quickened by His resurrected Life ! Thats what Paul means here 1 Cor 15:45
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
Thats right, in His Resurrection from the dead, He was made a life giving Spirit, to give life to those for whom He lived and died for. They already have total forgiveness of sins, but now they need Life out of the dead. Christ, their Adam rose from the dead and was seated on the Right Hand of God to give them Life, which is also His resurrection Life for them ! Same thing is implied here Rom 6:4-5
4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
In order to conform us into the Likeness of His Resurrection [which was for us anyway if He died for us] then we must be given to partake of that resurrection life which He does for us as a Life giving Spirit 1 Cor 15:45, which in turn saves us out of our spiritual death and being His enemies Rom 5:10 ! So the reconciled in Rom 5:10, while being enemies, shall be saved from being enemies, by Christ's Life.
This must happen and is promised to happen to everyone Christ died for !
So how could Christ had died for all without exception, when all without exception are not #1 Reconciled to God by His Death, and #2 Saved out of Spiritual death by His Life ? This saving is the same Paul speaks of also in Titus 3:5 by the renewing of the Spirit, which is the result of Christ being a Life giving Spirit 1 Cor 15:45 !
However, this aspect of their reconciliation and forgiveness by the death of Christ, still leaves them in spiritual death, or dead in trespasses and sins as in Eph 2:1,5
And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved)
So by nature, even though those Christ died for are dead in sin, they still have been forgiven of all them, and reconciled to God, even while they are spiritually dead !
But here is where the Promise comes in, which states, those reconciled to God by Christ's death, while they are yet enemies, dead in sin, they shall be saved by/in His Life !
This means that they shall be saved out of that dead state of enmity and being enemies, by His Life, they shall be quickened by His resurrected Life ! Thats what Paul means here 1 Cor 15:45
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
Thats right, in His Resurrection from the dead, He was made a life giving Spirit, to give life to those for whom He lived and died for. They already have total forgiveness of sins, but now they need Life out of the dead. Christ, their Adam rose from the dead and was seated on the Right Hand of God to give them Life, which is also His resurrection Life for them ! Same thing is implied here Rom 6:4-5
4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
In order to conform us into the Likeness of His Resurrection [which was for us anyway if He died for us] then we must be given to partake of that resurrection life which He does for us as a Life giving Spirit 1 Cor 15:45, which in turn saves us out of our spiritual death and being His enemies Rom 5:10 ! So the reconciled in Rom 5:10, while being enemies, shall be saved from being enemies, by Christ's Life.
This must happen and is promised to happen to everyone Christ died for !
So how could Christ had died for all without exception, when all without exception are not #1 Reconciled to God by His Death, and #2 Saved out of Spiritual death by His Life ? This saving is the same Paul speaks of also in Titus 3:5 by the renewing of the Spirit, which is the result of Christ being a Life giving Spirit 1 Cor 15:45 !
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Nanja
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Appreciated this 2-part study on Rom. 5:10 very much!
If Christ was made a Quickening Spirit for all without exception,
then all without exception would be made a new man Eph. 4:24.
Contrariwise, the scriptures speak of many that were designated beforehand
to be cursed / condemned Mat. 25:41; Jude 1:4; their father is not God. Mat. 13:38-39; John 8:44.
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beloved57
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You have understood wisely ! God has blessed you !
beloved57
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Who is this World in 2 Cor 5:19 ?
2 Cor 5:19
19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
Is this world everyone without exception ? By no means, in fact the verse tells us who are comprised of this World.
Its everyone that has been reconciled to God, that God has reconciled to Himself ! Now does that apply to every human being without exception ? No it does not !
Secondly, its everyone that has not and God will not impute their sins unto them !
In other words, its a world of blessed men and women who David calls blessed here Ps 32:1-2
Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered.
2 Blessed is the man unto whom the Lord imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.
And Paul quotes the same in Rom 4:7-8
7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
Its a world full of men and women whose iniquities are forgiven and whose sins are covered !
Its a world full of folk that God will not impute sin, lay it to their charge ! And please note it says He will not do it, ever, not now, not in the future !
John Gill comments on Rom 4:8
Thats who the World is in 2 Cor 5:19, those who are #1 Reconciled to God, #2 Have no sins charged to them !
Is that all without exception ? Jesus shall say to many who evidently have iniquity laid to their charge this Matt 7:23
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Now how could they possibly be of those which it is said Ps 32:1-2
Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered.
2 Blessed is the man unto whom the Lord imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile. See Rom 4:7-8
which are those in 2 Cor 5:19
To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
2 Cor 5:19
19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
Is this world everyone without exception ? By no means, in fact the verse tells us who are comprised of this World.
Its everyone that has been reconciled to God, that God has reconciled to Himself ! Now does that apply to every human being without exception ? No it does not !
Secondly, its everyone that has not and God will not impute their sins unto them !
In other words, its a world of blessed men and women who David calls blessed here Ps 32:1-2
Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered.
2 Blessed is the man unto whom the Lord imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.
And Paul quotes the same in Rom 4:7-8
7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
Its a world full of men and women whose iniquities are forgiven and whose sins are covered !
Its a world full of folk that God will not impute sin, lay it to their charge ! And please note it says He will not do it, ever, not now, not in the future !
John Gill comments on Rom 4:8
Thats who the World is in 2 Cor 5:19, those who are #1 Reconciled to God, #2 Have no sins charged to them !
Is that all without exception ? Jesus shall say to many who evidently have iniquity laid to their charge this Matt 7:23
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Now how could they possibly be of those which it is said Ps 32:1-2
Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered.
2 Blessed is the man unto whom the Lord imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile. See Rom 4:7-8
which are those in 2 Cor 5:19
To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
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beloved57
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Who is this World in 2 Cor 5:19 ? 2
Who is this World in 2 Cor 5:19 ? 2
The world in 2 Cor 5:19 cannot be inclusive of any individual who is not reconciled to God, or who is unreconciled !
Therefore the message in Vs 20 2 Cor 5:19-20
19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.
This message or command cannot be to the unreconciled, that would contradict Vs 19, that they were already reconciled to God also Vs 18
18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;
So the Gospel command in Vs 20 " be ye reconciled to God" is not to anyone who is not already reconciled to God, the unreconciled !
Then why does Paul tell reconciled folk to be ye reconciled ? Its because, the word of Truth begets Faith in them, its a call to Faith, for Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing the word of God Rom 10:17 !
The Truth is that they already are reconciled to God by and through Christ, and when they hear that Truth by the power of the Holy Spirit, they are commanded to believe it, they are commanded to believe what is already True ! There believing it doesn't make it true, it was true before they believed, and when they were enemies Rom 5:10 ! There believing it was Gods way of giving them personal knowledge of it and assurance of it !
Who is this World in 2 Cor 5:19 ? 2
The world in 2 Cor 5:19 cannot be inclusive of any individual who is not reconciled to God, or who is unreconciled !
Therefore the message in Vs 20 2 Cor 5:19-20
19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.
This message or command cannot be to the unreconciled, that would contradict Vs 19, that they were already reconciled to God also Vs 18
18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;
So the Gospel command in Vs 20 " be ye reconciled to God" is not to anyone who is not already reconciled to God, the unreconciled !
Then why does Paul tell reconciled folk to be ye reconciled ? Its because, the word of Truth begets Faith in them, its a call to Faith, for Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing the word of God Rom 10:17 !
The Truth is that they already are reconciled to God by and through Christ, and when they hear that Truth by the power of the Holy Spirit, they are commanded to believe it, they are commanded to believe what is already True ! There believing it doesn't make it true, it was true before they believed, and when they were enemies Rom 5:10 ! There believing it was Gods way of giving them personal knowledge of it and assurance of it !
beloved57
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Reconciled/Justified before God while being enemies !
Rom 5:9-10
9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
Now heres Grace, Being Reconciled to God, Justified before God, by the Death of His Son, while being enemies, that's the purport of these verses, meaning while those Jesus Christ died for were in a active state of rebellion, enmity, fighting and resisting God, they were completely Righteous before Him, and on their way to Eternal Glory ! For example, to further Illustrate what i mean, remember Paul the Apostle, when he was saul the persecutor of the Church / Believers in Christ, as here Acts 9:1
And Saul, yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, went unto the high priest,
Yes, while he was actively breathing out threatening and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, he was nevertheless reconciled to God, Justified and Righteous before Him, and on his way to Eternal Glory, even at that very moment ! He did not need to repent, believe, pray, or be water baptized or any of that, it was already a fact as much as Christ his Surety and forerunner was already in Glory in his behalf, and that's a fact, and the reason for that is simply the death of Christ, Gods Son for him, that's it ! And so it is with all for whom Christ died !
Rom 5:9-10
9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
Now heres Grace, Being Reconciled to God, Justified before God, by the Death of His Son, while being enemies, that's the purport of these verses, meaning while those Jesus Christ died for were in a active state of rebellion, enmity, fighting and resisting God, they were completely Righteous before Him, and on their way to Eternal Glory ! For example, to further Illustrate what i mean, remember Paul the Apostle, when he was saul the persecutor of the Church / Believers in Christ, as here Acts 9:1
And Saul, yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, went unto the high priest,
Yes, while he was actively breathing out threatening and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, he was nevertheless reconciled to God, Justified and Righteous before Him, and on his way to Eternal Glory, even at that very moment ! He did not need to repent, believe, pray, or be water baptized or any of that, it was already a fact as much as Christ his Surety and forerunner was already in Glory in his behalf, and that's a fact, and the reason for that is simply the death of Christ, Gods Son for him, that's it ! And so it is with all for whom Christ died !
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Nanja
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Precisely!
Because Christ was made a Surety for all the Elect chosen in Him before time,
according to God's Eternal Purpose, they were already reconciled to God in Him.
Therefore, all the sins they would ever commit were imputed to Christ to die for.
Just like the Apostle Paul, all of God's Sons were always in His Favor Rom. 3:24.
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beloved57
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Excellent!
beloved57
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Post 208, did you understand the points I made with scripture ?
beloved57
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Reconciled while being enemies !
False religionists, who reject Salvation by Grace, do also reject the Truth of God's Grace, that those Christ has died for, had been reconciled to God, by that Death, while they were enemies Rom 5:10
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
This reconciliation to God was without them meeting any conditions, not any requirements, in fact it occurred while they were in a state of hostility and hatred and enmity against God;
And it was while they were being so, that they were actually reconciled, that is brought into harmony and agreement with God, received into His Favor and Friendship ! Don't be deceived by false teachers, they were reconciled to God, not potentially reconciled to God, it was not just possibly and not actually, they were reconciled to God on the bases of the Death of Christ. If it was only made possible, Christ's Death fell far short of the Glory of God. They were all reconciled to God and put in harmony with Him, as they had been when they were in harmony with God in Adam before the fall !
The fleshly carnal mind ruled by pride cannot receive this Grace Truth, it rejects it every time !
False religionists, who reject Salvation by Grace, do also reject the Truth of God's Grace, that those Christ has died for, had been reconciled to God, by that Death, while they were enemies Rom 5:10
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
This reconciliation to God was without them meeting any conditions, not any requirements, in fact it occurred while they were in a state of hostility and hatred and enmity against God;
And it was while they were being so, that they were actually reconciled, that is brought into harmony and agreement with God, received into His Favor and Friendship ! Don't be deceived by false teachers, they were reconciled to God, not potentially reconciled to God, it was not just possibly and not actually, they were reconciled to God on the bases of the Death of Christ. If it was only made possible, Christ's Death fell far short of the Glory of God. They were all reconciled to God and put in harmony with Him, as they had been when they were in harmony with God in Adam before the fall !
The fleshly carnal mind ruled by pride cannot receive this Grace Truth, it rejects it every time !
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beloved57
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Reconciled while being enemies ! 2
As stated before, this is a Truth of the Gospel that proud religionist cannot and will not receive Rom 5:10
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
This Truth to them that perish is foolishness, but yet again, its the message of the Gospel of the Grace of God in Christ; yes that Believers, back before they became believers, when they were unconverted, unbelievers, in fact while even being active enemies, nevertheless they had been reconciled to God, how, by the Death of Gods Son for them.
The word enemies echthros means:
hated, hostile; subst: an enemy.
properly, an enemy; someone openly hostile (at enmity), animated by deep-seated hatred. 2190/exthros ("enemy"), implies irreconcilable hostility, proceeding out of a "personal" hatred bent on inflicting harm
Remember how the Apostle Paul acted towards the Church when he was unconverted and inflicting harm out of hatered for Christ and His followers as here Acts 9:1-2
And Saul, yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, went unto the high priest,
2 And desired of him letters to Damascus to the synagogues, that if he found any of this way, whether they were men or women, he might bring them bound unto Jerusalem.
Well, when believers had that same spirit and hostility towards God/Christ, they had been Reconciled to God.
The word enemies also indicate that even when believers were under the power and control of the devil, as stated here Eph 2:2-3
2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
While being adversaries to God, opponents of His, enemies in our minds towards Him by wicked works Col 1:21
21 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled
even then, by the Grace of God, they were reconciled to God, meaning they were in a Right and pleasing relationship with Him, in His Favor, at Peace and Harmony with them ! He raised up Christ from the dead after He had died for their sins as the God of Peace Heb 13:20
20 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,
Yes, even while they were enemies, God was reconciled to them and at Peace with them, and they with Him, through Christ !
This the natural man, self righteous religionist cannot receive !
As stated before, this is a Truth of the Gospel that proud religionist cannot and will not receive Rom 5:10
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
This Truth to them that perish is foolishness, but yet again, its the message of the Gospel of the Grace of God in Christ; yes that Believers, back before they became believers, when they were unconverted, unbelievers, in fact while even being active enemies, nevertheless they had been reconciled to God, how, by the Death of Gods Son for them.
The word enemies echthros means:
hated, hostile; subst: an enemy.
properly, an enemy; someone openly hostile (at enmity), animated by deep-seated hatred. 2190/exthros ("enemy"), implies irreconcilable hostility, proceeding out of a "personal" hatred bent on inflicting harm
Remember how the Apostle Paul acted towards the Church when he was unconverted and inflicting harm out of hatered for Christ and His followers as here Acts 9:1-2
And Saul, yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, went unto the high priest,
2 And desired of him letters to Damascus to the synagogues, that if he found any of this way, whether they were men or women, he might bring them bound unto Jerusalem.
Well, when believers had that same spirit and hostility towards God/Christ, they had been Reconciled to God.
The word enemies also indicate that even when believers were under the power and control of the devil, as stated here Eph 2:2-3
2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
While being adversaries to God, opponents of His, enemies in our minds towards Him by wicked works Col 1:21
21 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled
even then, by the Grace of God, they were reconciled to God, meaning they were in a Right and pleasing relationship with Him, in His Favor, at Peace and Harmony with them ! He raised up Christ from the dead after He had died for their sins as the God of Peace Heb 13:20
20 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,
Yes, even while they were enemies, God was reconciled to them and at Peace with them, and they with Him, through Christ !
This the natural man, self righteous religionist cannot receive !
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beloved57
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Reconciliation equals Justification, declared Righteous !
Many out of spiritual ignorance do deny that reconciliation and Justification are equivalent, because they are ignorant to the things of God. Now to be reconciled to God while being enemies [before faith] as stated in Rom 5:10, that it also means they are Justified/Declared Righteous while enemies by the same Death of Christ is seen in scripture comparison, for the being reconciled in Rom 5:10 is the same in 2 Cor 5:19
19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation
But here in 2 Cor 5:19 we are enlightened as to what being reconciled entails, the Non Imputation of sins ! So those reconciled while enemies in Rom 5:10 also are blessed with the non imputation of sins. Now the non imputation of sins equates to Justification and or being declared Righteous, this we know by more scripture comparison, for when David wrote Ps 32:1-2
Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered.
2 Blessed is the man unto whom the Lord imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.
The same non imputation as in 2 Cor 5:19 which is joined to reconciliation, hence when Paul quotes David later from Ps 32:1-2, which clearly speaks of Non Imputation, here in Rom 4:6-8
6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,
7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
Paul attaches Gods Imputation of Righteousness without works, by stating and quoting Davids non imputation of sin blessedness Rom 4:7-8 Cp Ps 32:1-2
So its scriptural to declare, those reconciled to God while enemies in Rom 5:10, have no sin imputed to them as Per 2 Cor 5:19, which declares them Righteous without works in Rom 4:6-8 ! To deny this is to deny scripture Truth. To deny that those reconciled to God by Christ's death while enemies as Per Rom 5:10 that they are Righteous and Justified before God while enemies, is to deny clear teaching of scripture and puts one in Unbelief !
Many out of spiritual ignorance do deny that reconciliation and Justification are equivalent, because they are ignorant to the things of God. Now to be reconciled to God while being enemies [before faith] as stated in Rom 5:10, that it also means they are Justified/Declared Righteous while enemies by the same Death of Christ is seen in scripture comparison, for the being reconciled in Rom 5:10 is the same in 2 Cor 5:19
19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation
But here in 2 Cor 5:19 we are enlightened as to what being reconciled entails, the Non Imputation of sins ! So those reconciled while enemies in Rom 5:10 also are blessed with the non imputation of sins. Now the non imputation of sins equates to Justification and or being declared Righteous, this we know by more scripture comparison, for when David wrote Ps 32:1-2
Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered.
2 Blessed is the man unto whom the Lord imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.
The same non imputation as in 2 Cor 5:19 which is joined to reconciliation, hence when Paul quotes David later from Ps 32:1-2, which clearly speaks of Non Imputation, here in Rom 4:6-8
6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,
7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
Paul attaches Gods Imputation of Righteousness without works, by stating and quoting Davids non imputation of sin blessedness Rom 4:7-8 Cp Ps 32:1-2
So its scriptural to declare, those reconciled to God while enemies in Rom 5:10, have no sin imputed to them as Per 2 Cor 5:19, which declares them Righteous without works in Rom 4:6-8 ! To deny this is to deny scripture Truth. To deny that those reconciled to God by Christ's death while enemies as Per Rom 5:10 that they are Righteous and Justified before God while enemies, is to deny clear teaching of scripture and puts one in Unbelief !
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beloved57
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By Christ's Death we are accepted of God !
This is that Blessed Truth of Rom 5:10
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
This teaches us a very blessed and gracious Truth, which the proud religionists cannot receive, and that is, even when those Christ died for are being enemies, unbelievers, ungodly, God has accepted them into His Favor, sees them as Just, and Righteous, and reckons them as if they never had sinned.
The word reconciled in Rom 5:10 is the greek word katallassō and means:
I.to change, exchange, as coins for others of equivalent value
A.to reconcile (those who are at variance)
B.return to favour with, be reconciled to one
C.to receive one into favour
And these have been Justified, which are reconciled while enemies because God will not impute sin unto them 2 Cor 5:19
19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
So those reconciled here in 2 Cor 5:19 are the same ones of Rom 5:10 and so the reconciled enemies in Rom 5:10 dont have sin charged to them, even when they are unbelieving enemies, nor is faith and repentance required, no they are totally accepted of God without them,
So to teach, even suggest that any for whom Christ died[He did not die for everyone] must first come to Him in repentance in order to be accepted of God, saved or Justified before God, made right with Him, they are false witnesses, and scripture here Rom 5:10 condemns them as such !
This is that Blessed Truth of Rom 5:10
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
This teaches us a very blessed and gracious Truth, which the proud religionists cannot receive, and that is, even when those Christ died for are being enemies, unbelievers, ungodly, God has accepted them into His Favor, sees them as Just, and Righteous, and reckons them as if they never had sinned.
The word reconciled in Rom 5:10 is the greek word katallassō and means:
I.to change, exchange, as coins for others of equivalent value
A.to reconcile (those who are at variance)
B.return to favour with, be reconciled to one
C.to receive one into favour
And these have been Justified, which are reconciled while enemies because God will not impute sin unto them 2 Cor 5:19
19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
So those reconciled here in 2 Cor 5:19 are the same ones of Rom 5:10 and so the reconciled enemies in Rom 5:10 dont have sin charged to them, even when they are unbelieving enemies, nor is faith and repentance required, no they are totally accepted of God without them,
So to teach, even suggest that any for whom Christ died[He did not die for everyone] must first come to Him in repentance in order to be accepted of God, saved or Justified before God, made right with Him, they are false witnesses, and scripture here Rom 5:10 condemns them as such !
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beloved57
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Justified in order to be reconciled !
Rom 5:10
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
Now we know that Justification and Reconciliation are one and the same, or simultaneously concurrent, because in order for a sinner to be reconciled to God, sins must be discharged and viewed as no longer debts to Gods Law and Justice, and must be reckoned as Righteous, no unrighteous person is reconciled to a Holy God ! Hence, them that are reconciled to God by Christ's Death while enemies, must also be Righteous and discharged of all iniquity before Gods Law and Justice as enemies !
Rom 5:10
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
Now we know that Justification and Reconciliation are one and the same, or simultaneously concurrent, because in order for a sinner to be reconciled to God, sins must be discharged and viewed as no longer debts to Gods Law and Justice, and must be reckoned as Righteous, no unrighteous person is reconciled to a Holy God ! Hence, them that are reconciled to God by Christ's Death while enemies, must also be Righteous and discharged of all iniquity before Gods Law and Justice as enemies !
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beloved57
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Reconciliation is Salvation !
If anyone tells us that Reconciliation is not Salvation, dont believe it, its a lie. The fact is reconciliation is Salvation in that its Peace with God. We read Col 1:20
20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
This peace through reconciliation by the blood of Christ is Preached as good tidings of Salvation, for we read again in Rom 10:15
15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
Now Rom 10:15 is taken from Isa 52:7
7 How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth!
The Gospel of Peace which is the result of reconciliation Rom 10:15
And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
Eph 6:15
And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
Eph 2:17
And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
This is also the Gospel of Salvation Isa 52:7
How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth!
Its the word of reconciliation established by the Blood of Christ 2 Cor 5:19
19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
If anyone through the blood of Christ has been reconciled to God, they have with God Peace and Salvation, and it will be Preached to them !
If anyone tells us that Reconciliation is not Salvation, dont believe it, its a lie. The fact is reconciliation is Salvation in that its Peace with God. We read Col 1:20
20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
This peace through reconciliation by the blood of Christ is Preached as good tidings of Salvation, for we read again in Rom 10:15
15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
Now Rom 10:15 is taken from Isa 52:7
7 How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth!
The Gospel of Peace which is the result of reconciliation Rom 10:15
And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
Eph 6:15
And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
Eph 2:17
And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
This is also the Gospel of Salvation Isa 52:7
How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth!
Its the word of reconciliation established by the Blood of Christ 2 Cor 5:19
19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
If anyone through the blood of Christ has been reconciled to God, they have with God Peace and Salvation, and it will be Preached to them !
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Nanja
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Amen, Reconciliation Is Salvation!
Those who have been Reconciled to God by Christ's death on their behalf Titus 1:1-2; 2:14 KJV,
because they are in a state of being at Peace with God, He shall give them Hearing ears Prov. 20:12
and Faith Gal. 5:22 in New Birth to Believe the Gospel of their Salvation Eph. 1:13,
for the Word of Truth shall be Sent and Preached to them Rom. 10:15.
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beloved57
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Amen ! Also Reconciliation and Salvation are seen to be the same when we consider what it says in Rom 11, observe first Rom 11:11
11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.
Here Paul writes that through national israels fall, Salvation is come to the Gentiles !
Then in Vs 15 Rom 11:15
15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?
Here Paul says that their casting away, which is the same as their fall in Vs 11 results in the reconciling of the World or Gentiles !
The reconciling here is the same as the Salvation in Vs 11 !
The word reconciling in Vs 15 is the greek word katallagé and literally means:
restoration to favor,reconciliation (restoration) as the resulting of Christ exactly (precisely) exchanging His righteousness (blood) for our guilt.
Thats Salvation to be put in favor with God and covered with Christ's Righteousness in exchange for Him taking their guilt and sin punishment ! Thats Salvation !