Reconciled to God while enemies !

[Right Divider]

I'm just trying to find the word "impute" anywhere in the Scriptures! (sorry, couldn't resist).

If I'm understanding the gist of this thread, I think of where John dedicated his writing of the revelation of Yeshua "to him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood, and has made us to be a kingdom and priests to serve his God and Father -- to him be glory and power for ever and ever!" This same revelation clearly states that overcoming the evil of the end times and the beast "calls for the patient endurance on the part of the saints who obey God's commandments and remain faithful to Jesus." Does Yeshua's own revelation to John contradict His own sacrifice? No, of course not, yet there it is plain as the nose on one's face, a twofold requirement for reconciliation and the ability to overcome. The freedom we have in His blood does not negate the necessity for obedience and faithfulness.

Rom 4:11 And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also:

Rom 4:20-25 He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God; (21) And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform. (22) And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness. (23) Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him; (24) But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead; (25) Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.
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Was it that hard to find these?

 

[glorydaz]

Rom 4:11 And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also:

Rom 4:20-25 He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God; (21) And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform. (22) And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness. (23) Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him; (24) But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead; (25) Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.
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Was it that hard to find these?

It must be that pesky (past tense) "ed", or the lack of available translations or something. :idunno:

Romans 4:8
Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

 

[beloved57]

Shall be saved by His Life !

Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

What the false teachers are ignorant of, with their using this verse to teach that Christ reconciled all humanity to Himself through the Death of Christ, that they are also stating another untruth, which is all without exception shall be saved by Christ's Life, simply because that is the Promise to them that were reconciled to God by His Death while they were enemies !

Now with that stated, who is it in this verse that it is promised they shall be saved by Christ's Life ? And what does this mean ? To answer the first question, Its all whom were reconciled to God, by Christ's Death, while being enemies and unbelievers !

The Promise to them is "being reconciled[while enemies], we shall be saved by his life."

The word shall puts this statement in the indicative mood which means:

The indicative mood is a simple statement of fact. If an action really occurs or has occurred or will occur, it will be rendered in the indicative mood.http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Rom&c=5&t=KJV#s=t_conc_1051010

Now this is True because His Life spoken of here Rom 5:10

For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

His Life is also their Life, for it would be just as appropriate for it to read, They shall be saved by their Life, since His Life is theirs, He rose with their Life in Him, as their Head; Paul wrote Col 3:4

When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.

The Our here is His Body the Church, for whom He is the Head of Col 1:18

And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

He was the Head of the Body the Church as the Firstborn from the dead, speaking of His Resurrection and the Life Rom 5:10 refers to !

Each Member of His Body was raised together with Him, and by virtue of that, each member of His Body shall be saved by His ? Their Life Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

 

[beloved57]

Shall be saved by His Life ! 2

Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Now listen, those who were reconciled / saved by His Death shall also be saved by His Life !

False Teachers hijack this verse to say that the Death of Christ doesn't save anyone, but that His Life does !

But what these false teachers don't know is that this verse does not say that no one is saved by Christ's death, simply because that would be a untruth, in fact they are saved from by His death from the penalty of sin which is Death Rom 6:23 and because of that, His death for them abolishing Death 2 Tim 1:10

10 But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:

And since they have no more penalty of sin charged against them, which caused death, then Justice demands that they now be saved out of death by Christ's Life.

That Resurrection Life of Christ is theirs as He is their Head, and as their Head and Saviour He must communicate to them Resurrection Life to raise them from the Spiritually Dead, this proves His Headship of them and His being their Saviour. When this occurs in the life of anyone Christ died for 1 Cor 15:45

45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

Or Eph 2:4-6

4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,

5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved )

6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

Thats saved there in Vs 5 is what Paul meant in Rom 5:10 of the reconciled while they were enemies ! Because of reconciliation which indicates free from the charges of sin imputed 2 Cor 5:19, they therefore must be saved from Spiritual Death by His Life Giving Spirit 1 Cor 15:45 ; Eph 2:5 !

This Life giving was made possible because His Death saved them from the Penalty of sin which incurs death, which His death for them satisfied God's Law and Justice, so now they must be according to Justice saved by Christ's Resurrected Life, quickening them from the Spiritually dead !

 

[beloved57]

Reconciliation ensures all of Salvation !

Understand something, We know that Christ did not die for all mankind individually without exception, if we believe the Truth about His Death, in how it secures and ensures that those He died for shall be saved by His Life Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Now lets consider here that its an stated fact that those Christ died for, even while they were enemies, that is to say unbelievers, even then they were reconciled to God; and the promise to them now reconciled to God while enemies, by His Death is " THEY SHALL BE SAVED BY HIS LIFE" !

So now if He reconciled all mankind without exception to God while they were enemies and unbelievers by His Death [supposing He died for them] and yet these same enemies thus reconciled by His death are not SAVED BY HIS LIFE AS PROMISED then the scripture has been proved to be false and a lie.

The only way for it not to be proved false is if all humanity without exception shall eventually be saved by His Life, which equates to universalism, another false teaching of the ungodly, or that Christ's Death was Limited to only the saved, which is limited atonement, or limited reconciliation !

So which do you believe today ? Let us examine our hearts before God and His Truth ! If you believe Christ died for all humanity without exception and reconciled them to God while enemies as Per Rom 5:10 then you either believe in Universal-ism or you believe that the scriptures teach limited atonement, you cant straddle the fence !

 

[beloved57]

Christ's death in reconciliation has a Two Fold purpose, it was to reconcile God to man and man to God! If it doesn't do this, it was a failure to Gods purpose , but it did Reconcile both sides as scripture teaches !

 

[beloved57]

Reconciled to God , more of what it means ?

Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

What does being reconciled to God mean ? Yes even when unbelievers and enemies !

It means that even as enemies and unbelievers God has no sins to charge against them, because all their sins have been put away by the Lord Jesus Christ.

These also God in Justice will not and cannot deal in wrath towards them for their sins as He will with others in a state of disobedience Eph 5:3-6

3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;

4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.

5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.

6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things[In Vs 3-5] cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.

This wrath of God here does include the second death Rev 21:8

But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Notice a similar list of sins are here mentioned like those in Eph 5:3-5 !

I believe its the Wrath to come 1 Thess 1:10

10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.

And its the wrath spoken of here 1 Thess 5:9

9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

Now all whom Christ by His death reconciled to God, they were not appointed to wrath, and that even while enemies and unbelievers, even then they are saved from the Wrath to come through Him Rom 5:9

9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

Through Him here means through His Death ! In fact the word through here in Vs 9 is the same word BY in Vs 10:

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Its the prep dia, which means "on account of" and so we were saved from wrath and reconciled to God on account of His Death, because of it, and no other cause can be considered without turning into idolatry !

 

[beloved57]

Making Peace /reconcilation by the blood of His Cross !

Making Peace /reconcilation by the blood of His Cross !

Col 1:20

20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

Did you know that all for whom Christ died, they have Peace with God before Faith ? Yes they have it[Peace with God] even though by nature they are enemies in their minds against Him and in Unbelief, because this Peace they have with God is established by the Blood of Christ, or by His Death, and its a True fact even while they are being enemies, hating Him and His Son the Lord Jesus Christ.

This Peace they have as enemies and unbelievers is true also because again as such they have been reconciled to God ! How was it they were reconciled to God ? It was not by their Faith, but by His Death Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Hence as reconciled enemies they have Peace with God, they are established in His Favor through the Lord Jesus Christ !

 

[beloved57]

Making Peace /reconciliation by the blood of His Cross !2

Now the word peace in Col 1:20

20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

Its the greek word eirénopoieó: I make peace, reconcile.

to make peace, establish harmony:

Now Christ by His death established Peace and Harmony, reconciliation between the Parties of Men and God, the relationship was mended on both sides !

Now one may ask how could this be, when those Christ died for are born into this world as sinners and enemies like others are See Rom 5:10 ! They are by nature alienated from the Life of God ! But here's how it was done. When Christ rose from the dead, after having died for the sins of God's Sheep, sins that had been charged to Him, He rose reconciled to God on their behalf, their sins having been put away, purged away Heb 1:3

Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:

Now God was reconciled to Christ and the Sheep in Him, having been alienated from Him in Divine Justice because of their sins; Christ for sins imputed was forsaken of God the Righteous Judge Matt 27:46

46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? See also Ps 22:1 !

You see when God the Father was executing His fierce wrath upon the Son Shepherd and Surety for the sins of His People , He was as the Prophet wrote:

Thou art of purer eyes than to behold evil, and canst not look on iniquity:

And at this time God was not at Peace with His Son for Justice sake, He abandoned Him to the curse and condemnation for the iniquities of His Chosen, He turned away from, was alienated from Him, because of the blackness of sins charged upon Him !

But yet after He exhausted His Justice, and to give evidence that He has been exonerated, God raised Him from the Dead as the God of Peace Heb 13:20

20 Now the God of peace/reconciled, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,

The word for peace here means:

eirḗnē (from eirō, "to join, tie together into a whole") – properly, wholeness, i.e. when all essential parts are joined together; peace (God's gift of wholeness).

Christ was raised from the Dead, reconciled to God, and God to Him, but not for His sake, but for the sake of the People He died for, and put away their sins. God now sees all for whom He died as being in Harmony with Him, because Christ their Head is. Its just like with Adam, before the fall of the elect in him, they in adam were in harmony and friendship with God ! The harmony between both Parties has been restored by Christ blood establishing Peace, and this is the Message of Peace in the Gospel Rom 10:15

And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

Not a possibility of Peace if they do this or that, but Peace in that they have in Christ, been reconciled to God, and God to them !

 

[beloved57]

God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ !

2 Cor 5:18

18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;

According to this scripture, how did God reconcile [believers] to Himself ? Was it by their faith or repentance ? Was it by their obedience ? Does it say it was by their own freewill ? No, it was none of that which they did, no act of theirs, but He did it by Jesus Christ, meaning by His Death on the Cross 1 Pet 2:24-25

24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

25 For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned or reconciled unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.

His death, and all it effected, set in motion reconciled those He died for back to God, the word reconciled in 2 Cor 5:18 is the greek word katallasoo , which means : I change, exchange, reconcile, change as when Two parties reconcile together, like marriage partners who had been estranged and at odds 1 Cor 7:11

11 But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.

The word also denotes a change from enmity to friendship ! Not Gods enmity towards them, but their enmity towards God. By nature those whom Christ died for and reconciled to God were themselves enemies in their minds towards God, for so says the scriptures Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Rom 8:7

7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

All men by nature are with a carnal mind, thats natural for men 1 Cor 3:3

For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?

Col 1:21

21 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he[Jesus Christ] reconciled

Now understand, this enmity we have by nature against God is overcome by the effects of Christ's death, causing us to come into a friendship/ fellowship in our hearts and affections towards God and the things of God, and of course our Faith to come to Him in a pleasing manner Heb 11:6 arises out what Jesus Christ by His work of the Cross effected ! Thats what Paul taught in 2 Cor 5:18 and Col 1:21 !

Now in 2 Cor 5:18 who are the Us ? 2 Cor 5:18

18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;

Its all them He reconciled to God while they were being enemies Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

The Us of 2 Cor 5:18 is consistent with the we of Rom 5:10, in fact that word reconciled is the same in both places !

And folks ultimately thats who Christ died for, those who by Him come to Faith/ Friendship and Fellowship experimentally with God Triune !

BTW, that's who the world is in 2 Cor 5:19, a world of men and women of all nations, whose natural enmity against God has been overcome, and they be experimentally brought into the Fellowship/Friendship with God again through Jesus Christ, to whom be all the Glory !

 

[whitestone]

who is the enemy,who was reconciled while still an enemy?,,,
Was there anyone in scripture who "hated Jesus and his followers" and set out to kill them?(see Acts 9),
Was there a man who was "fully unrepentant" in his position of Jesus and his followers and God appeared to him "while he was an enemy"? (see Acts 9)

If it is scriptural that someone who detest Jesus,stalks down his followers to kill them,holds the coats of the killers of Christians while they kill them and Christ appears to him "WHILE HE IS AN ENEMY",,,well then of a truth we are reconciled "while still enemy's",,,see acts 9 Paul hated Jesus,was not repenting of it,ect.ect.,,,

 

[Nanja]

2 Cor 5:18

18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;

According to this scripture, how did God reconcile [believers] to Himself ? Was it by their faith or repentance ? Was it by their obedience ? Does it say it was by their own freewill ? No, it was none of that which they did, no act of theirs, but He did it by Jesus Christ, meaning by His Death on the Cross 1 Pet 2:24-25

24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

25 For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned or reconciled unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.

His death, and all it effected, set in motion reconciled those He died for back to God, the word reconciled in 2 Cor 5:18 is the greek word katallasoo , which means : I change, exchange, reconcile, change as when Two parties reconcile together, like marriage partners who had been estranged and at odds 1 Cor 7:11

11 But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.

The word also denotes a change from enmity to friendship ! Not Gods enmity towards them, but their enmity towards God. By nature those whom Christ died for and reconciled to God were themselves enemies in their minds towards God, for so says the scriptures Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Rom 8:7

7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

All men by nature are with a carnal mind, thats natural for men 1 Cor 3:3

For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?

Col 1:21

21 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he[Jesus Christ] reconciled

Now understand, this enmity we have by nature against God is overcome by the effects of Christ's death, causing us to come into a friendship/ fellowship in our hearts and affections towards God and the things of God, and of course our Faith to come to Him in a pleasing manner Heb 11:6 arises out what Jesus Christ by His work of the Cross effected ! Thats what Paul taught in 2 Cor 5:18 and Col 1:21 !

Now in 2 Cor 5:18 who are the Us ? 2 Cor 5:18

18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;

Its all them He reconciled to God while they were being enemies Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

The Us of 2 Cor 5:18 is consistent with the we of Rom 5:10, in fact that word reconciled is the same in both places !

And folks ultimately thats who Christ died for, those who by Him come to Faith/ Friendship and Fellowship experimentally with God Triune !

BTW, thats who the world is in 2 Cor 5:19, a world of men and women of all nations, whose natural enmity against God has been overcome, and they be experimentally brought into the Fellowship/Friendship with God again through Jesus Christ, to whom be all the Glory !

Amen!

Thanking God for you, and this very edifying study!

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[beloved57]

Amen!

Thanking God for you, and this very edifying study!

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Thanks to God we're able to rejoice together in that Truth!

 

[Nanja]

Thanks to God we're able to rejoice together in that Truth!

Yes indeed, and truly a great blessing from Him! ☺

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[beloved57]

Reconciled to God by the death of His Son while Enemies !

Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Reconciled to God, by Christs death, while being Enemies, even enemies in our minds by wicked works Col 1:21

21 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled

Thats right, even while being alienated, estranged from God by nature and in nature, those Christ died for were reconciled to God by His death.

Now this is a Truth about Grace that the natural man cannot and will not receive, being void of the Spirit of God, it is foolishness to him, even a great stumblingblock !

You see it does mean, while those for whom Christ died are in themselves rebellious against God, they have been nevertheles reconciled or received into Gods Favor/Grace, which implies they have no sin, or iniquities, trespasses charged against them before God, for all these must be taken away, in order for God to receive us into His Favor/Reconcilition !

The word reconciled in Rom 5:10 is the greek word katallassō and means:

1. to change, exchange, as coins for others of equivalent value
2. to reconcile (those who are at variance)
3. return to favour with, be reconciled to one
4. to receive one into favour

So we know that their sins , iniquities have been removed because they cause separation from God as stated here Isa 59:2

But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.

Christ's death does away with that separation and reconciles God to them into His Favor and Blessing ! This separation is done away with for them in the fact of Jesus Christ their Surety !

Both Parties are reconciled, God to them, they to God by the Perfect Law obedience they have imputed to them through Christ's Obedience Rom 5:19, and all this is True while they themselves are in a state of nature children of wrath as others Eph 2:3

3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. See Col 1:21 !

 

[God's Truth]

Reconciled while enemies is about the GENTILES.

Paul is explaining that Jesus did not just die for the Jews, the Jews who performed the commanded various laws and regulations. Jesus died for the sins of the whole world, even for the sins of the enemies of God. The Gentiles were the enemies.

Colossians 1:21 Once you were alienated from God and were enemies in your minds because of your evil behavior.

Reconciled while enemies is about the GENTILES not having to become a Jew first and get CIRCUMCISED.

Colossians 2:13 When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins,


The GENTILES WERE ENEMIES BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT CIRCUMCISED IN THE FLESH.

Jesus still saved them WHILE THEY WERE UNCIRCUMCISED ENEMIES.

 

[beloved57]

Reconciled while enemies is about the GENTILES.

Paul is explaining that Jesus did not just die for the Jews, the Jews who performed the commanded various laws and regulations. Jesus died for the sins of the whole world, even for the sins of the enemies of God. The Gentiles were the enemies.

Colossians 1:21 Once you were alienated from God and were enemies in your minds because of your evil behavior.

Reconciled while enemies is about the GENTILES not having to become a Jew first and get CIRCUMCISED.

Colossians 2:13 When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins,


The GENTILES WERE ENEMIES BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT CIRCUMCISED IN THE FLESH.

Jesus still saved them WHILE THEY WERE UNCIRCUMCISED ENEMIES.

I said that the truth here can't be received by the natural man!

 

[God's Truth]

I said that the truth here can't be received by the natural man!

I am not a natural man. I live through the Spirit of Jesus.

 

[oatmeal]

Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.


All for whom Christ died, have been reconciled to God, by His death alone, not by their obedience, not by their faith, not by their repentance, but even while they were being enemies, unbelievers, children of wrath as others BY NATURE, now if this be the case, their being reconciled, they cannot be under condemnation and wrath as others Jn 3:18,36 even while being unbelievers !

You see, they cannot be both condemned and under wrath as enemies and reconciled to God as enemies at the same time !

True

 

[beloved57]

True

Do you understand that which you are saying true to ?