I appreciate your time in explaining this.
I agree with you.
I Love how you described the engineering aspect. I agree and love how you said it.
My fragmented words can be confusing.
I end up generating books, so I try to keep things as rapid as possible.
I would buy one if you did.
I also recognize that Adam was created without sin. There was no law, for man hadn't selected to know good from evil at Creation.
Again and briefly, we must keep in mind that adam did have a relationship with God. Ergo, he knew what good was. What he didn't know was temptation and its effects on his human frame and because he didn't God had to subject him to Romans 8:20 KJV in order for him to have to deal with it from only his own innocent flesh. Four thousand years later the scene would be repeated but with further clarity with Jesus in the wilderness, per Matt and Luke 4:1
Perhaps if I had said.... Adam was not God. He was elected dominion over earth ,
That was in the form of a "promise".
but He was to trust the dominion of God over him. In morally choosing to know as God, mankind rebelled against the authority of God.
I personally believe we make to much of that reasoning as being the only reason by NOt keeping in mind Rom 8:18-20 KJV
That was the "problem" by which the solving of it could only bring the "promise" to fruitition.
This scene was again played out between God and the children of Israel, i.e., Promise, Problem, Provision. Spelled out as being the 'Promise' of deliverance from Egypt. The 'problem journey' in the wilderness for the proving of God's people, and then the entering into the Promised Land" [provision] by those who were found faithful. We know how that all played out before they entered in. In the Christian life Rom 8 is the "promised Land".
In quick words, we had the only King, worthy of being King, but we essentially tried our hand at the throne, by the suggestion of one who had desired to be in dominion over all creation and desired to have equal authority as God.
Given the inclusion of Eve into the mix to make complete the issue of Romans 8:20, I gotta believe Adam's human nature was all that was needed for him to reject God and all his promises that came with being faithful to Him. I believe under the right 'vain' thinking, the law of our flesh can easily overrule our allegiance to God, don't you think? It is sort of like saying, culture/law of the flesh is stronger than doctrine, especially dead doctrine. All of this merely points up the professing Christians need to have the life of God indwelling him as Jesus, the man, certainly exemplified as one "filled with Grace and Truth".
Jesus on the other hand was and is God, thus Jesus demonstrated how His dominion over all is Sovereign, because He alone is the Righteous Servant King that demonstrated that we as human beings should trust Him as He as God trusted God. (Sounds difficult when not referred to as Father and Son). He is the only one capable of sustaining all, has all and is genuinely unconditionally Loving and Self Sacrificing.
Can God be our example for living our life unto Him or is this not the reason why Jesus was human flesh as we are, subjected to the same things we are. Was He not given the "promise" foretold in Isaish 9:6, the "problem" to overcome to become, and finally, given the 'Provision' [glorification] for His faithfulness? per Heb 2:10,11 KJV; Php 2:9 KJV
Please keep on me. I trust your sharpening.
I wish you could bottle your disposition and give me to drink. . .
If you still see error in my words, I want to know if it is the words I use, ore the idea behind the words.
Likewise. Brother. Please be patient with me as well.
Either way, please continue, if you see a way of sharpening my expression of these things.
I never reject sincere theological guidance.
Nor I, irrespective of how I might come across sometime. I cherish sincerity from others. I am however, no theologian.
Again, likewise and more.
