some other dude
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barbie's a bitter, angry, closet racist and Christian-hater. He is to be pitied.
Real Science Friday: A Leading Telescope Designer in Studio
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barbie's a bitter, angry, closet racist and Christian-hater. He is to be pitied.
Yep. As you see, it comes as a complete surprise to the creationists. It's never been a problem for Christians, though. The God who created the universe is a lot more capable and powerful than the creationists are willing to let Him be.
I am sure that some are. Old Earth creationists, for example, do not object to Genesis. Some YE creationists may never have realized the implications of their new doctrines. Some of them are as Christian as anyone else.
But yes, many creationists are not Christians, in the sense of accepting the Nicene Creed and Jesus as God.
Some creationist hold beliefs that are not consistent with Christianity.
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barbie, unwilling to accept reality as it is, decides to invent his own:
Name one barbie. :chuckle:
Name one barbie. :chuckle:
What belief can one hold that would make one not a Christian?
(Barbarian says that some creationists hold beliefs that are inconsistent with Chrisitianity)
(Stipe asks Barbarian to name one)
Life ex nihilo, for example.
(Stipe asks Barbarian to name one)
Life ex nihilo, for example.
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He is a slippery weasel, isn't he?
Or perhaps he's not as smart as he thinks. :idunno:
Or perhaps he's not as smart as he thinks. :idunno:
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Well, he can cut and paste faster than anyone but Squeaky.
When he's on his own, he usually falls flat on his face and then gets really angry when people (read me
) laugh at him.
When he's on his own, he usually falls flat on his face and then gets really angry when people (read me
) laugh at him.
:chuckle:
Maybe he is Squeaky. :think:
When he's on his own, he usually falls flat on his face and then gets really angry when people (read me
What I really hope is that one day he can show some respect for the explanations that are presented to him. Plenty of times I have ceded to his greater knowledge. Never once will he even consider allowing a plain reading of Genesis a fair hearing.
Anything counter to evolutionism .. :CRASH: .. he's blinded.
And Barbarian - we all are well practised in riling each other up, but that's a genuine hope. Show some humility and maybe a little respect sometime. Who knows, perhaps you'll learn something. :up:
Do evolutionists usually have nothing to say when it comes to Caterpillar Metamorphosis?
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Much like Squeaky, barbie's not here to learn, he's here to teach. They each see themselves as experts and ridicule anybody who doesn't accept that.
Frayed Knot
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Biologists have a lot to say about it. Many insects go through a larval stage, then metamorphosize into an adult. The butterfly is just another example of this. The process is basically a two-step development, where instead of having to provide all the nutrients that are needed within the egg, the critter develops part way, then goes out to eat, then the development process is continued after it fattens up. Seems like a pretty good evolutionary strategy - insects seem to be fairly successful as a group!
It's also very inaccurate to say that the larva turns itself into a "bag of rich fluid," because structures that exist in the larva are maintained, and further developed in the metamorphosis process.
I don't see that it's any more of an amazing thing, than any other creature's development process. The difference is that with these insects, there's a pause during development while it fattens up, then development continues.
What directs the metamorphosize? What tells the "development process" to continue? Evolution is an abstract concept that does not do anything. And insects eat each other. Was the first to try this successful? The second? The third? The fourth? Do you have any proof that this process evolved? You don't. What you have is a butterfly--a beautiful creation that evolution could never produce in a gazillion ions.
What tells the "structures that exist in the larve to maintain and further develope in the metamorphosis processs"?
"Amazing"? You should be absolutely ASTONISHED that this process could happen undirected by accident for no reason. You should be rocked to your socks with awe that the origin of all life as we see today came from nonliving matter. And then this lifeless, reasonless matter gave us the laws of logic and rational thought. I don't have enough faith to be an atheist.
"... although they knew God, they did not glorify HIm as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened" (Rom. 1:21).
Tom
Hello all,
Whatever gene is necessary for one to admit to any truth, it's missing in Barbarian's DNA. If Jesus were posting on ToL, Barbarian would argue with Him that He is the way, the truth and the life. He would post: "Barbarian chuckles... Let's look and see if this Jesus is the way the truth and the life." And then he would post some nonsense.
So on other threads, I tried to show him that he is not saved and is going to hell. He believes he is going to the nonexistent Purgatory. But he does not know that there is no air conditioning in Purgatory. And no amount of purchased prayers to his priest by his family will expedite his duration in Purgatory. But knowing Barbarian, he will deny where he is at. "Barbarian, you're in hell. There is no Purgatory." And while Barbarian will argue against this, I doubt he will be able to chuckle.
Tom
I don't think Jesus would deny that He is the way the truth and the life.
And He is God, Tom. Hard as that may be for your ego, He is.
And you aren't.