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Rusha

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People like to have the illusion they have control. Not having control bugs them to death.
Since they cannot control the rapist from raping, they look for control wherever they can.

Their answer is to go directly after the victim for control rather than the perpetrator as to somehow soften the sole responsibility of the perp, and thus give them the sensation of having some control over the rapist. We will control the rapist by starvation, so to speak. This 'starvation' must come from the rest of society since the rapist himself cannot be controlled.

The blame game starts. All over a myth. A myth that they can have control over a rapist.

To justify their new found control myth, they perpetuate the stigma of “he can’t help it” and “she asked for it”. Spread and repeat this enough, and the sheep will start to believe and accept it as the norm, and even praise the 'controllers' (for the myth) so they too can not feel so powerless in the matter.

After their faulty behaviorism of supporting such a myth, they are perplexed as to why society still holds onto this stigma, when it is they themselves that are guilty of preserving that myth rather than change it.

If you really want to change the rape culture, trash the myth and get down to the brass tacks.

Nailed it! :thumb:
 

CabinetMaker

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now, back to your friend who is waving a $100 bill around on the street, ignoring your advice to stop doing that or it's going to get stolen from him

when it gets stolen from him and he whines about how unfair life is, do you go up to him and say "Oh, you poor poor thing! I'm so sorry about what happened to you! You never deserved to have that $100 bill stolen from you!"

or, do you smack him on the back of the head and say "Serves you right moron - maybe next time you'll listen to me and not act like such a damn fool"?

Maybe you should have read my last two paragraphs. Stealing cash and forcing sex on somebody who doesn't want you are not the same thing. I can rib my friend who lost $100 for being foolish. A woman who has been violated by you has lost something that can never be replaced. Calling her foolish only does more damage. It is a cruel thing to do to a person who has been raped and you show a remarkable latch of empathy and simple kindness to think that doing so us a good thing.
 

bybee

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Maybe you should have read my last two paragraphs. Stealing cash and forcing sex on somebody who doesn't want you are not the same thing. I can rib my friend who lost $100 for being foolish. A woman who has been violated by you has lost something that can never be replaced. Calling her foolish only does more damage. It is a cruel thing to do to a person who has been raped and you show a remarkable latch of empathy and simple kindness to think that doing so us a good thing.

I am stunned by the savagery exhibited by some of the women posters on here against women!
 

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I think it is more savage to watch people I have known for years tear each other apart because one poster has posited divisive, emotionally charged subjects with what seems to be the intent to sow discord....mission accomplished! It is just sad really...
 

Quetzal

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I think it is more savage to watch people I have known for years tear each other apart because one poster has posited divisive, emotionally charged subjects with what seems to be the intent to sow discord....mission accomplished! It is just sad really...
Correct. To take a step further, it would seem that this kind of behavior is encouraged.
 

ok doser

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A woman who has been violated by you has lost something that can never be replaced.


it's been said before, but this kind of thinking no longer holds as a universal, because feminists are redefining rape in ways that it never was before

in the following case, what has the woman lost that can never be replaced ?


Herewith, a Philadelphia magazine report about Swarthmore College, where in 2013 a student “was in her room with a guy with whom she’d been hooking up for three months”:

“They’d now decided — mutually, she thought — just to be friends. When he ended up falling asleep on her bed, she changed into pajamas and climbed in next to him. Soon, he was putting his arm around her and taking off her clothes. ‘I basically said, “No, I don’t want to have sex with you.” And then he said, “OK, that’s fine” and stopped. . . . And then he started again a few minutes later, taking off my panties, taking off his boxers. I just kind of laid there and didn’t do anything — I had already said no. I was just tired and wanted to go to bed. I let him finish. I pulled my panties back on and went to sleep.’”

Six weeks later, the woman reported that she had been raped.

 

patrick jane

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it's been said before, but this kind of thinking no longer holds as a universal, because feminists are redefining rape in ways that it never was before

in the following case, what has the woman lost that can never be replaced ?


Herewith, a Philadelphia magazine report about Swarthmore College, where in 2013 a student “was in her room with a guy with whom she’d been hooking up for three months”:

“They’d now decided — mutually, she thought — just to be friends. When he ended up falling asleep on her bed, she changed into pajamas and climbed in next to him. Soon, he was putting his arm around her and taking off her clothes. ‘I basically said, “No, I don’t want to have sex with you.” And then he said, “OK, that’s fine” and stopped. . . . And then he started again a few minutes later, taking off my panties, taking off his boxers. I just kind of laid there and didn’t do anything — I had already said no. I was just tired and wanted to go to bed. I let him finish. I pulled my panties back on and went to sleep.’”

Six weeks later, the woman reported that she had been raped.


And she waited 6 weeks to report it !!!!
 
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