question for MADIsts.

[God's Truth]

For starters, enter into His rest.
Have you done that yet without any works on your part? No, He did not ask you to work. He said, "enter into My rest." Just enter. No works of your hands for they are already rejected.

The work we do not have to do is the work of cleaning ourselves.

Those are the purification works the Jews did for over 1,600 years.

Those are the works the Gentiles did not do.

Paul was not saying we are saved by not obeying!

Paul says we are saved by believing Jesus' blood cleans us instead of the blood of animals.

 

[God's Truth]

And the foundation is NOT your obedience.

The foundation is the truth.

 

[God's Truth]

Still no answer.

No one can sin with or without a license.

I have been answering you, but there are people who do not hear and see.

You cannot sin with or without a license.

Where do you think your beliefs come from when you think there is a legitimate way to sin?

 

[lifeisgood]

The foundation is the truth.

Yes, the foundation is The Truth, which has absolutely nothing to do with your obedience.

 

[lifeisgood]

The work we do not have to do is the work of cleaning ourselves.

Those are the purification works the Jews did for over 1,600 years.

Those are the works the Gentiles did not do.

Paul was not saying we are saved by not obeying!

Paul says we are saved by believing Jesus' blood cleans us instead of the blood of animals.

And you, gt, says that you have to obey BEFORE entering into His rest. Go figure.

 

[Nick M]

No one can sin with or without a license.

No one can sin? Wow. Still no answer.

 

[Lazy afternoon]

Talk about not being truthful. It is not that the answer has not been given truthfully, for it has, but that the answer given is REJECTED every single time and the ones saying that an answer has not been given are liars in the presence of God.

You like to call people liars.

The answers given are not true.

It was the way of the Pharisees to call people liars and try to find fault with the righteous when they did not like the truth.

Laboring to enter into the rest God promised His people is what occurs after being reconciled to God, in Christ.

Those who claim to be completely rested in Christ at conversion, are the most obnoxious persons thoughout the churches.

2 Peter ch 2.

Grosnick Marowbe and John W are prime examples of these people.

LA

 

[lifeisgood]

You like to call people liars.

Only to the ones who are liars and proven that they are liars, e.g., gt.

The answers given are not true.

See, you just proved my point above. I thought you said they do not answer questions posited.

The accusation you made was that MADs do not answer questions and you just said that they do answer questions. What are we to make of your comment.....

I, lifeisgood, said that they do answer; however, the answer is rejected. You, LA, again, proved my point.

It was the way of the Pharisees to call people liars and try to find fault with the righteous when they did not like the truth.

Isn't it so convenient of you.

Laboring to enter into the rest God promised His people is what occurs after being reconciled to God, in Christ.

You enter into His rest only once.

Those who claim to be completely rested in Christ at conversion, are the most obnoxious persons thoughout the churches.

2 Peter ch 2.

Grosnick Marowbe and John W are prime examples of these people.

LA

You get Jesus wrong it does not matter what else you get right. You, LA, got Jesus wrong.

 

[God's Truth]

Yes, the foundation is The Truth, which has absolutely nothing to do with your obedience.

Obeying God has not been done away with. How do you ever get that we do not have to obey God or that if you do you better pretend you didn't or you will be condemned?

 

[God's Truth]

And you, gt, says that you have to obey BEFORE entering into His rest. Go figure.

Jesus is the Way. You have to do what the way says to get where you want to go.

 

[God's Truth]

No one can sin? Wow. Still no answer.

I have been answering and explaining it to you for years.

We are NOT TO SIN. We cannot keep sinning. IF anyone does sin---then they can find mercy.

That is all scripture.

 

[KingdomRose]

You get Jesus wrong; it does not matter what else you get right.
You got Jesus wrong.

I don't think so! He always pointed to the Father as God, and as the One who deserved all recognition, for His [the Father's] power and mercy and authority.

How could I have Jesus wrong when I won't vote for any other person because I recognize him as my King (and President, and every other kind of leader)? (Rev.19:16)

How could I have him wrong when I wouldn't learn to kill and join any nation's military, due to the fact that Jesus said to love our enemies? (Matt.5:44)

How could I have him wrong when he stated plainly that the Father was HIS GOD? (John 20:17; Rev.3:12)


You don't recognize even those few things that Jesus taught. I think perhaps that you don't have Jesus right.

 

[Nick M]

We are NOT TO SIN.

That is not what I asked. The standard is without spot or blemish. Do you sin? Is that with or without a license?

 

[lifeisgood]

Obeying God has not been done away with. How do you ever get that we do not have to obey God or that if you do you better pretend you didn't or you will be condemned?

The foundation is NOT your obedience. Some day you'll get it.

 

[lifeisgood]

Jesus is the Way. You have to do what the way says to get where you want to go.

Then OBEY the Way, enter into His rest.

Notice that it is NOT your rest, but His rest and He does not say you have to obey to enter. He says, "Come".

 

[lifeisgood]

I don't think so! He always pointed to the Father as God, and as the One who deserved all recognition, for His [the Father's] power and mercy and authority.

How could I have Jesus wrong when I won't vote for any other person because I recognize him as my King (and President, and every other kind of leader)? (Rev.19:16)

How could I have him wrong when I wouldn't learn to kill and join any nation's military, due to the fact that Jesus said to love our enemies? (Matt.5:44)

How could I have him wrong when he stated plainly that the Father was HIS GOD? (John 20:17; Rev.3:12)


You don't recognize even those few things that Jesus taught. I think perhaps that you don't have Jesus right.

If you take the time to read, maybe, just maybe....

http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/q_jesus_claiming_deity.htm

Did you take the time to read the other one I presented to you?

 

[lifeisgood]

How could I have Jesus wrong when I won't vote for any other person because I recognize him as my King (and President, and every other kind of leader)? (Rev.19:16)

You don't vote because you are rebellious against God's way for God is the one who established government. Well, that is something you will have to take up with Him.

 

[lifeisgood]

How could I have him wrong when I wouldn't learn to kill and join any nation's military, due to the fact that Jesus said to love our enemies? (Matt.5:44)

The commandment is not to MURDER not not to kill. If someone comes with an AR-15 to kill your family you will not defend your family? No? Evil servant worst than an infidel for the Lord commands that we are to defend our families and our nation. Smoocher of the liberty afforded us by the blood of the ones who have defended this nation and the ones in it.

http://www.letusreason.org/doct40.htm

 

[lifeisgood]

How could I have him wrong when he stated plainly that the Father was HIS GOD? (John 20:17; Rev.3:12)

http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/q_jesus_claiming_deity.htm

 

[lifeisgood]

You don't recognize even those few things that Jesus taught. I think perhaps that you don't have Jesus right.

If you get Jesus wrong, it matters not what else you get right. You got Jesus wrong.