On Rape

[ok doser]

I've found it a very interesting thread in many ways. One of which is watching people over react. :think:

then you'll love this one:

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75319&highlight=black

can't believe how many people couldn't get past the wording of the thread title and never got around to discussing the subject matter

 

[ok doser]

You are out of line.

because i used the word butthurt? :freak:


how about this?

predictable from anna - her emotions are still raw from town leaving and the reasons she believes underlie that

 

[Quetzal]

it did

it made me think you were trolling

now, if you'd like to return to the subject matter at hand, which is responsibility for one's actions....

a father allows his children to be babysat by a known pedophile. The children are molested. is the pedophile responsible for his actions? of course does the father bear any responsibility for putting the children at risk?

Okay, fresh start then. In this situation, yes. He bears some responsibility.

 

[ok doser]

Okay, fresh start then. In this situation, yes. He bears some responsibility.

good - i agree

 

[Cedarbay]

Not going to get drawn in to OP's sick games.

No justification for this.

Bye Bye

I got drawn in a bit, and I'm not a liberal!

Very poorly done overall. Didn't learn a thing in this liberal sociology class.

Usually don't.

 

[glassjester]

all crime

Every victim in every instance of every crime is partially responsible?

 

[Quetzal]

good - i agree

Right, and you do agree that the primary responsibility is still with the criminal? (Feels like a stupid question to ask, but I want to be sure.)

 

[bybee]

what does scripture say is the role of the husband?



try selling that crap to Ronda Rousey

if women want equality, they can't turn around and whine about how unfair it is that they're not equal physically

A woman doesn't whine. Cry babies whine. Like you flooding the penalty box with your petty whining.

 

[Cedarbay]

Every victim in every instance of every crime is partially responsible?

I wouldn't bother, glassjester, the OP is a sociology student vomiting out his class notes.

 

[bybee]

because i used the word butthurt? :freak:


how about this?

predictable from anna - her emotions are still raw from town leaving and the reasons she believes underlie that

If you were a mind reader that statement might have some plausibility?
As it is, perhaps I shall do some mind reading and say that you have never gotten over how inferior you are to TH and that drives your acidic nature?
Of course, I'm not a mind ready so it falls into the realm of surmise? Hmmmmm?

 

[ClimateSanity]

Too bad anyone gave his "argument" any serious thought. Waste of space. He tried to make himself sound scholarly and serious, but he's just playing a game with you all.

What game is that? What objective does he have for the game?

 

[ok doser]

If you were a mind reader that statement might have some plausibility?

it was obvious from her whiny thread to knight

As it is, perhaps I shall do some mind reading and say that you have never gotten over how inferior you are to TH and that drives your acidic nature?

:darwinsm:

good one! :thumb:

 

[Angel4Truth]

well, it looks like anna's not interested in the topic, just in satisfying her emotional need to attack me for raising a topic she finds uncomfortable :idunno:

if anybody else would like to take a crack at this, feel free

a father allows his children to be babysat by a known pedophile. The children are molested. is the pedophile responsible for his actions? of course does the father bear any responsibility for putting the children at risk?

yes, he does.

 

[ok doser]

Every victim in every instance of every crime is partially responsible?

in the context of the conversation, i meant all types of crime, but sure, i'll broaden that to all crime, in that we get the society we allow

 

[glassjester]

I wouldn't bother, glassjester, the OP is a sociology student vomiting out his class notes.

He seems to be mixing up culpability with mere existence.

Yes, the victim had to exist (in a specific time and place) in order to become a victim of any particular crime.

Yet there is no coherent link to culpability there. At all.

 

[ClimateSanity]

The point of my posts were to make you think. To get you to expand your mind. :chuckle: Face it, he got called out on it. Cried like a baby and you are nursing his little ego back to health. :carryon:

You are allowed to make people think but not him?

 

[glassjester]

in the context of the conversation, i meant all types of crime, but sure, i'll broaden that to all crime, in that we get the society we allow

So when you say every victim is partially responsible for the crime committed against him, how do you define "responsible" ?

 

[ok doser]

Right, and you do agree that the primary responsibility is still with the criminal? (Feels like a stupid question to ask, but I want to be sure.)

initial response: of course

but.....


maybe not

maybe we get the society we allow, and those of us who have allowed it to come to this bear primary responsibility

how can we have gotten to the point where young men (and women) think it's allowable to act like animals?



remember - i'm speaking from the perspective of being a former high school teacher - i agonize over the possibility that one of my former students will get caught up in this crap - that we missed the opportunity to teach them to be good, moral Godly citizens

 

[Angel4Truth]

I agree. I have so many lib friends here in Oregon, and I am constantly amazed at how irrational they are on any given number of issues. They make absolutely no sense at all. It's why I always say that the liberal mind has no room for common sense.

Romans 12:2 Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to discern what is the good, pleasing, and perfect will of God.

2 Corinthians 10:4 for the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh, but divinely powerful for the destruction of fortresses.
5 We are destroying speculations and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God, and we are taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ

2 Timothy 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

Ephesians 4:21 if indeed you have heard Him and have been taught in Him, just as truth is in Jesus, 22 that, in reference to your former manner of life, you lay aside the old self, which is being corrupted in accordance with the lusts of deceit, 23 and that you be renewed in the spirit of your mind, 24 and put on the new self, which in the likeness of God has been created in righteousness and holiness of the truth.

 

[ok doser]

I wouldn't bother, glassjester, the OP is a sociology student vomiting out his class notes.

no, my class notes would make you vomit - the crap that's currently accepted as politically correct, especially when viewed through the feminist perspective