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Mr. Religion and His Calvinistic Nonsense
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Yep.
Fine-sell all you have.
Open an account on Ebay-sell it all. Do it. Obey.
Fraud.
Well, there is, for example, where Peter, as pope, chooses to pronounce infallibly that the epistles of the Apostle Paul are on a level with "the other scriptures" (2P3:16KJV).
Yes.
Well, I just did. And I am part of "the Church" too.
Romans 1:7 (KJV) 1st Corinthians 1:2 (KJV)
No, you lied:
I, the church, am not infallible, nor are you, or anyone on earth today. You/Rome made that up. No such thing as "pope."
"though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh: 4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds; ) 5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;"
That weren't a lie.
What I said was that the charism of infallibility, that preserves him from error when teaching on matters of faith, doctrine and morals, is only in effect when the pope teaches from Peter's chair, which popes do not do very frequently, and so far, they have only done so when there already is great agreement among all the bishops of the Church. All such infallible Church teachings are found in the Catechism of the Catholic Church, which remains free in its entirety online at the Church's own web page at her own web domain, and is also readily available for purchase for about 10 USD in mass-market print form from many book retailers.
You/Rome, made that up. No scripture promises, in this dispensation, absolute, "infallible" understanding of scripture, to anyone. That only happened when the Lord Jesus Christ walked this grave yard, and when "the promise" of the Father"(Acts 1:4 KJV, Acts 2:33 KJV), "power from on high"(Luke 24:49 KJV)was given to a select few, for a specific purpose(subject of another thread-discussed on TOL previously).
This bunch of clowns, in clown hats, in clown outfits, is made up. Those charlatans cannot touch me, or others, on TOL, biblically. They/Rome belongs in a straight jacket-they've put you in one. Flee her....Come out of her...(Rev. 18:4 KJV).
Yes they were/are.
Those "select few" are the Apostles, and it was with their "power from on high," that they instituted the Church office of bishop/overseer. 2nd Corinthians 10:8 (KJV), speaking of " our authority; " the authority of the Apostles, who created the college of bishops, who presided over the Jerusalem Church council, recorded in Acts, that was an unmitigated success.
"Clowns": 1; You: 0
I'd sooner flee my own family than flee the Church's supreme pastor.
Really? So why can't GM refute it despite the challenge? Well, he sort of chickened out.
GM noticed he has false doctrine after comparing his doctrine with Samie's posts.
No, that power from on high, including the miraculous gifts of healing, speaking in tongues, word of knowledge,............... was for a specific purpose, in the prophetic program(another thread), and has no place in this dispensation. And there is no such thing as "apostolic succession," or "popes"-Rome/you just made it up.
Samie speaks of himself in the third person as we have noticed. Why does Samie do that? There must be a reasonable explanation for this strange anomaly. Then, one must ask: "What questions is GM unable to answer?" I mean, it's a reasonable request to find the answer to this interesting question, is it not?
I would suggest that Samie asks one question at a time. Isn't that a reasonable request, Samie?
It was for building the Church, as Paul so frequently says, and among the most significant of their building activities, was the establishment of the hierarchical clergy, with bishops tasked with Church oversight. Also they built the Eucharist into the pinnacle of the Church's mass/corporate prayer to the Lord.
And if anybody "just made up" succession, and the papacy, it was the Apostles themselves, including Paul, during the first century. If that's what you mean by "Rome," then OK.
Samie seems to be somewhere else in the world other than the USA. One might ask: "Why?" Well, the other day he said it was midnight where he was and yet, it was late afternoon here in the States.
I would like an opportunity to answer Samie's questions. However, I first need to know what they are? Is that unreasonable?
No-another thread....to confirm the word, that they were speaking for the LORD God.No longer applicable, in this dispensation.
You wicked Romanists/most other denominations, since you refuse to rightly divide the word of truth, the most significant division, being between the prophetic program, primarily dealing with the nation Israel, and the heathen nations, on earth, and the mystery program, focused primarily on the boc, in heavenly places, and thus follow the wrong apostle, Peter, and the Lord Jesus Christ in His earthly ministry................................................
Good post Sonny.
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I have debated AMR a few times and he merely posts by copying/pasting material; he does not reply directly to what someone says. If you insist he answer a question after all his lectures, he doesn't come back and answer.
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What does Jesus teach that you believe we have to do?
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