Madists

[john w]

You preach that Paul says we are saved by believing we do not have to do anything at all, and if we do then it is a damnable works salvation!

Correct, as news, by definition, is something that has already happened. Good news, as the Lord Jesus Christ did it all for me, by His dbr, and you hate that, Cain, Jr., are grinding your big, bad, wolf chops, as you read this, like your "spiritual" brother Cain, Sr., before you, as your face drops, and you want to wack me.

 

[john w]

Why would I pluck out my eye and cut off my hand you ignorant man if I am obeying?

Deception. You always obey? Liar. Pluck out your eyes. Cut off your feet/hands.


Fraud. Charlatan, for all to witness-again.

 

[john w]

Hang on...not well versed in the jargon of the MAD...is "dbr" death burial and resurrection?

And if so, what exactly does the dbr do to the gospel besides "I told you so?"

Was He lying before dbr? Is it another gospel?

I will slow it down for you, perverter:

"And the gospel is the gospel that Jesus Christ preached to the Jews and the gentiles and he then sent out his apostles to do the same!"-mar

No, moron, he sent the 12 to preach the gospel of the kingdom, including Judas, which is not the gospel of 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV, that had as its foundation, the death, burial, resurrection, which was hid from the 12,which you were shown, over 10 times, while they were preaching the good news of the kingdom.

Your papa devil tells you to just deny it. Like father....like son...

 

[john w]

Believing is a work and it is NOT the only works we have to do.

Made up-absolutely clueless.

Romans 4:5 KJV

But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

 

[marhig]

The Lord Jesus Christ did. He was not a "nice guy". Try reading the scripture. Keep in mind the context, which was the religious self righteous blowhards and he rebuked them sharply, to say the least. Get on board.

Which would be like some of those who are on here that are abusive to others who love God and Christ, especially insulting them because they follow the teachings of Jesus and don't follow only the teachings of Paul.

Because those who do this, don't listen to the teachings of Jesus, and dismiss them as "not for me" just like the pharasees whom Jesus rebuked!

Jesus wasn't all softy softy no, but he loves those who love him and the father, and I and others here who are regarded by some here as low life scum love them both, regardless of what many on here think of us! But then those who were proud and self-righteous looked at Jesus like that as well!

God will judge the hearts of all of us and we will be judged on what we have done, good or bad, regardless of what many think, many believe that they can do what they like, say "I believe" live by their will and please their flesh and then just walk straight into the arms of Christ and the father! No we can't, we have to obey God and live by his will, and show love, mercy and kindness to one another and bring forth the fruits of the Spirit in our lives bringing the love of Christ to our fellow man.

 

[john w]

Yup...

Working out our salvation with fear and trembling...lest we be cut off for boasting and unbelief...

What a mess, as the droid does not even know that in the passage he is quoting Paul, Philippians 2:12 KJV,is not a reference to soul/spiritual salvation/deliverance.

Of course, he does not even know what the term "salvation" means, and, yet, he weighs in here, on TOL, with the soldiers? No...I don't think so....Take your seat, or remain in your place-the bleachers/fox hole, from which you boo the players/hiss at the troops.

 

[Right Divider]

BELIEVING in God is a work!!!

Believing is a work and it is NOT the only works we have to do.

No, it is NOT!

Rom 4:5 (AKJV/PCE)​

(4:5) But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
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Paul CONTRASTS working and believing in REGARDS to being JUSTIFIED.

 

[john w]

Which would be like some of those who are on here that are abusive to others who love God and Christ, especially insulting them because they follow the teachings of Jesus and don't follow only the teachings of Paul.

You just lied-again. Your father, the devil, taught you well.


"the teachings of Jesus," on earth, during His earthly ministry, are actually the teachings God the Father gave the Master, and the Master's words, on earth, during His earthly ministry, are God the Father's words, not his own(as was true of all OT prophets), as you/others, have been shown-over, and over.

"the teachings of Paul" are the risen, glorified, ascended, and seated "Lord from heaven"'s teachings, in this dispensation, and Paul's words, are the risen, glorified, ascended, and seated "Lord from heaven"'s words, in this dispensation.

You have been shown this, but since all you do is spam what others say the bible teaches, not studying the details of the book itself, you continue your satanic lie, false dichotomy.


You, to the Israelites: You need to follow the teachings of the LORD God, and don't follow only the teachings of Moses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Stop following Moses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Follow the LORD God!!!!!!!~ Stop!!!!!!!!



The Israelites, to you: Get behind us, demon, as the LORD God told us to obey Moses, as his teachings, are the LORD God's, moron, as what Moses, says, are the LORD God's words/directives/teachings, Moses being His prophet("prophet"-to speak for another).

 

[musterion]

Made up-absolutely clueless.

Romans 4:5 KJV

But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

You'd think that would settle it.

 

[Nick M]

Jesus is sinless but none of us are.

Not so. I have been set free from sin and death.

18 And having been set free from sin, you became slaves of righteousness.

So He can judge everyone.

You just judged me in saying I have sin. You hypocrite.

 

[john w]

You'd think that would settle it.

Nah, musty, as we should expect another "Jesus says....Obey Jesus...The bible says....." stumper, that will have us speechless, scratchin' our noggins, wondering where we go next.......

Cricket....cricket....cricket....

 

[Tambora]

Yes, indeed. We should not be claiming to be sinless, obeying all His teaching nor saved.

Those are just plain boastful which is rampant in Christian world.

If you try to be true to Jesus, you won't behave so arrogantly.

 

[meshak]

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You just judged me in saying I have sin. You hypocrite.

If I judged you wrongfully, I am sinning. But I do not say or did say I am saved nor sinless nor obey all Jesus' teachings. So I am well prepared.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

If I judged you wrongfully, I am sinning. But I do not say or did say I am saved nor sinless nor obey all Jesus' teachings. So I am well prepared.:)

For Judgement?

 

[john w]

But I do not say or did say I am saved nor sinless nor obey all Jesus' teachings. So I am well prepared.

Who has met the "sinless/obey all Jesus' teachings" standard, to be saved?

Has anyone ever been saved? Name them, and provide evidence.


You: "You are on ignore..What's your point?...Good day.."


Not a peep.

 

[heir]

The point is MADists cannot defend their faith logically, spiritually, biblically and the most of all, overall context of the Bible, "love"..

I hope that helps

What a load!

 

[heir]

I hope that helps

Trusting the Lord believing 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 is the only thing that will help you!

 

[meshak]

What a load!

hello

 

[heir]

Peace in Christ.

You have no peace of God through our Lord Jesus Christ because you reject justification by faith (Romans 5:1 KJV).

 

[meshak]

TYou have no peace of God through our Lord Jesus Christ because you reject His gift.

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