Nope.
Not one person has ever showed anyone teaching a rapture before Darby invented it.
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Nope.
Not one person has ever showed anyone teaching a rapture before Darby invented it.
musterion
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The Romans DIDN'T leave not one stone standing upon another throughout Jerusalem, as Christ warned would happen in Luke 19. Your lord and savior Josephus said so. The intact stone remains that are still there prove it. The Luke 19 prophecy has not been fulfilled yet. That means 70 was not the prophetic culmination you want it to be.
Preterism is beaten. Refuted. Done. Stop lying.
On the subject of the Rapture, in Against Heresies 5.29,Irenaeus wrote:
“Those nations however, who did not of themselves raise up their eyes unto heaven, nor returned thanks to their Maker, nor wished to behold the light of truth, but who were like blind mice concealed in the depths of ignorance, the word justly reckons “as waste water from a sink, and as the turning-weight of a balance — in fact, as nothing;”(1) so far useful and serviceable to the just, as stubble conduces towards the growth of the wheat, and its straw, by means of combustion, serves for working gold. And therefore, when in the end the Church shall be suddenly caught up from this, it is said, “There shall be tribulation such as has not been since the beginning, neither shall be.”(2) For this is the last contest of the righteous, in which, when they overcome they are crowned with incorruption.”
Serpent Tet: Not literal.....That was Mrs. Irenaeus....
Nope. You were given the references, over 20 times.
Your father the devil is applauding you, effeminate one, liar, jr.
Yes they did. Not one stone was left standing upon another in Jerusalem.
You need to keep reading Jospehus, the three towers were destroyed, and nowhere in any of Josephus' writings is a 62 foot high wall described as still standing.
Again, there are no remains of the three towers you claim were still standing.
The wall that is there today was not there in 70AD, unless it was part of Fort Antonia.
Yes it has.
(Luke 19:44) ...They will not leave one stone on another, because you did not recognize the time of God’s coming to you.”
Jesus wasn't referring to Jews 2,000 years into the future.
The Luke 19 and Luke 21 prophecies were fulfilled in 70AD. You can't handle it because it causes too many problems for Darby's false teachings, and defending Darby's false teachings is the only thing that matters to you.
Pictured: Mid-Acts dispensationalism putting preterism's lights out.
| Down goes Preterist satanist Tettie! | |
I was given three, and very easily showed none of them even hinted at a rapture.
Prove me wrong Johnny?
Show us some of them.
I'll even help you. Why don't you start off with Pseudo-Ephraem?
So why are there still stones and construction from 30AD ?
Tettle can't answer that - so he googles and discovers he's wrong. Always
I think you mean 70AD
And there isn't, unless you want to count the Roman Garrison which was called Fort Antonia
There you again, TOL audience, as her wolfie-ness is confirmed again.
Pay attention, wolf "lady:"
Justification has NADA to do with "giving your life(or time, money................................................................) to Christ"-that is santification/service, that is encouraged, exhorted, to be done, by already forever justified saints(sanctified), members of the body of Christ(which excludes you).
The LORD God gave His life, 2000+ years ago, in our behalf, in our place,and needs none of our "lives," NADA, will not accept anything we attempt to give him, as a basis for our acceptance by Him, as a basis for a right standing before Him, as a basis of our justification. He demands that you accept, by faith, taking Him at His word, that he provided the sole basis for the sin/sins issue, 2000+ years ago-the good news of 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV..
Sonship, then service/sanctification("giving your life to Christ").
Not service/"giving your life to Christ", then sonship, as you "Lordship 'salvation'' wolves/wolf-ettes howl/yap.
Get saved.
The sign(Tettie asserts that signs are invisible)that he is getting bloodied, reeling to the canvass, imploding, getting methodically dismantled, slumping, in a heap.......His Catholic "Hail Mary" "Darby" stumper, that inevitably is spammed.
Clown.
No pre-trib rapture in the above.
Notice it says "this is the last contest of the righteous"?
If you read all of what Irenaeus wrote instead of the one paragraph you provided, Ireanaeus taught that the Great Tribulation occurs at the end of human history. He taught this was "the last contest of the righteous", and "when in the end" (of the world), the church is taken up to heaven.
It's not even close to Darby's rapture.
Nope. You pervert the word of God, mutt, and the gospel of Christ. Our evidence? You.
You claim Josephus was infallible-on record.
Was Josephus a man, punk? Was he a teacher, punk?
Watch the viper redefine the meaning of the word "teach," if he answers this. Watch.
Was he a Christ rejector, you piece of trash?
Yes, he was, just like you, and you quote him as your infallible source, dismissing those who are believers, their testimony.
Well, punk?
Are you "teaching" on TOL, sweetie? Are you a man?
Why do you assert that there should not be teachers, in the boc, serpent, deleting the scriptural references to "teachers..teaching...teach" in the book.? Your father the devil taught you that.
He won't answer this.
Loser. Fraud.
And pay attention to your family, infidel.
"I have never said that dispensationalism was "wrong" because of how old it was. I specifically said that no one taught about Christ coming back twice before Darby did."-Tet.
whitestone
Well-known member
Yes we have. Habitual liar.
Vs.
"I have never said that dispensationalism was "wrong" because of how old it was. I specifically said that no one taught about Christ coming back twice before Darby did."-Tet.
Lying is this satanic punk's wares.
musterion
Well-known member
Because the bottom line is, he's a troll. I think I remember Tet from John Ankerberg's old board from about 12-14 years ago. Same bloviant non-arguments, same hardheadness in the face of plain logic, same ignoring inconvenient facts, same selective "this is literal, this is allegorical" based solely on what he already decided to believe, and same absolute HATRED of dispensationalism. If it wasn't Tet, it was someone identical to him.
What part do you not understand Little Johnny?
Dispensationalism is wrong because it is contradictory to what is written in the Bible.
The fact that Dispensationalism is only around 160 years old, doesn't prove it wrong, but should throw up a really big red flag.
Not to mention that it was invented during "the age of the cults". Darby was a contemporary of Joseph Smith, Charles Taze Russell, Ellen White, and other cultists from the mid 1800's
whitestone
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yes I've noticed over the years there are a multitude of www's reflecting their opinions on when,how ect. (based on ones eschatology) here is when they themselves say it was/is sung http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0008_0_08255.html