Jesus said this in John 14
There are a few who feel the resurrection is purely spiritual in nature, that it does not require the raising up again of a physical body, however transformed. In this case, the resurrection indicates a death within the soul and a resurrection within that same soul of a spiritual nature, it is a transformation of consciousness essentially, or the raising of the individual into the spiritual realm, with its accompanying spirit-body. We can consider 'resurrection' on multiple levels, figuratively speaking.
On that note, a belief in the literal physical resurrection of Jesus is unnecessary, but a belief that he died and was resurrected in the Spirit (spiritually) is something all can agree on, since it is the inner esoteric meaning of 'resurrection' that is essential, it is the rising up into a new life, a new birth, a transformation of the mortal putting on immortality, etc.
Do note that if we assume he was raised 'bodily' ( as it was stated in one of the creeds), this word can accommodate a spiritual body form. Thus the belief in Jesus resurrection is fundamentally sustained, but understood figuratively. This 'transformation' all will undergo, who are raised up in a new body, whether this be on earth or in the spirit-world.
We would also note that 'resurrection' also included the concept of 'rebirth' or 'reincarnation' in some earlier schools, and DO NOTE....that in the process of a reincarnation,...there is certainly a 'raising up' of the spirit-soul in a new body or new embodiment. I've treated these issues in my former thread on 'Reincarnation' and another of like subject. So our concept of 'resurrection' could be broadened to include other facets and feature of the spirit-soul being raised up in a new form or higher vibration of consciousness
Hi again freelight
I believe a bit differently than many here, (as you may have seen). I believe that we are raised in this lifetime, as Paul said.
Colossians 3
If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
1 Corinthians 15
For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
Philippians 3
That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death.
Romans 8
But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
I believe that we are dead without God, and we are brought back to life by God breathing the holy spirit into our hearts, we are then born of God, we have passed from death to life and we are risen from the dead and the spirit of Christ will dwell in our hearts and he will be made manifest in our lives by the spirit within cleansing our heart to be more like his. If we listen to him and obey God, then our old fleshly life will be dead and hidden in Christ and we will be living by the will of God. Dying to sin daily and being alive in the spirit living to please our father in heaven. And it is all done through our lord Jesus Christ.
- again, back to figuring the mysterious details on the metaphysics of it all.
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Indeed, Paul does share definitively the inner spiritual sharing we have "in Christ", and this transformative process includes our death, burial, resurrection and ascension with-in Christ. Its just that some traditionalists here include or focus upon a literal physical resurrection of some kind,....'bodily', so such emphasizes some material modification of the flesh. This was noted in some early creeds, and while this was still being 'developed' in doctrinal matters,...one creed even changed Christ's resurrection from being "in the flesh", to the term "bodily" to be a bit more liberal, since the 'resurrection body' anyways is a bit peculiar, since it appears to have some form, yet 'spiritualized' to some degree. So, we have a broad spectrum of speculation of this 'resurrection body' from the more carnal dimensions...to the most celestialized, or some synthesis or compound therein
This all transpires in the process of the mortal putting on immortality, so its a fascinating subject. I glean from other schools that have their own views on what kind of 'bodies' we don or transform into along our souls journey Godward towards divine perfection. Paul did say like a seed our physical body is sown into the ground in death, and it is raised a spiritual body. So as shared above, we have the spiritual resurrection, the inward rising of God-consciousness, communion with the Christ within, the 'subjective' experience of co-identification with Christ. Then we have objective assumption of resurrection, whether individual or collective, the assumption of a mass resurrection at the last day, various roll calls at the end of a dispensation, etc. Fun stuff eh?
I understand that very differently to you, but there's no point in saying what I believe here.
Those verses aren't talking about when die LA but when we are born anew in God
Haha... good answer.