If you want to be like someone try to be like Paul. There are problems with trying to be like Jesus, for one thing you can never be like Jesus because he was without sin. Catholics are big on trying to be like Jesus. They believe that Jesus is present in the sacraments, this is why they take the sacraments so that they can become like him. It doesn't work. We are not called to become like Jesus. We are called to trust in Jesus. There is a big difference.
Jesus, Paul and the Law
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Never mind Catholics. May you be like Jesus and Paul. May you be like Jesus and His disciples even His Apostles. May you be a believer in God and Jesus as the Christ, the Messiah. May you not be a sinner. Do not imitate people when they sin.
do you love Jesus?
We are to have the faith OF Jesus not just faith in Him.
He seems ok with us following Him His example Luke 6:40 A disciple is not above his teacher, but everyone when he is fully trained will be like his teacher.
His people will be hated by the world not because they are like the world but because they are more like Him...
Hate the world...deny yourself...follow Him His Way...live as He did...His people WANT to
Dont be like Satan who believes in Him...has faith in Him...trusts Him...but does NOT obey and follow Him...
right on, brother.
Living by the Spirit and not the law will cause us to be conformed to his image, Ephesians 2:10.
If you live by spirit, you will strive to be like Jesus by esteeming His teachings.
Maybe you are forever in pain physically because of your lies. have you consider that?
You want to strive to be like Jesus?
There is no striving. Being "In Christ" is a rest, Hebrews 4:10.
You need to rest "In Christ" instead of striving to be like him.
Striving is the same thing as working. You have a works based theology. You are not really trusting in Christ, you are trying to be like him. Big, big difference. More than likely you will be in the Lord, Lord, didn't we group, Matthew 7:21-23.
Rejecting Jesus' teachings is a grave sin since you claim to be His follower or Christian.
Jesus was a teacher of the law. The law will damn you to hell if you try to keep it, Galatians 3:10.
Which is the work He prepared for us before hand...
See? these are the works for us to do...not those that man through his church demands of us...
These are our fruits that reveal we are no longer under the law but stand on it...with it the Spirit separates us from the world to be more like Him...
Don’t kill
Don’t commit adultery
Don’t steal
Don’t lie
All remain descriptions of those who follow Him His way...because they are already His...not to become His
But notice these are what others adhere to as well...Buddhists Muslims etc all practice these as well but there are four others that they do not...1,2,3,4 out the 10 they do not practice...
So the laws you follow determine who you are...
You are not lawless and the Spirit keeps you from following Muslim law or Buddhist law... yes?
And instead causes you to follow Whose Law? Because you are His and WANT to...
I agree. We don't really need to be told what to do because we already know what is required of us. A good Son does not need a lot of instructions. He knows what pleases his father and lives accordingly. He does not do those things that would make his Father ashamed of him.
Yes...we are grafted into His house and it has His house rules...if we obey the “wipe your feet” Law it helps us keep the “keep the kitchen (floor) clean” because now you want to live there and keep it nice...
Each rule has a greater purpose to remind us of our inheritance...by LAW
We don’t need to add to the rules as they are perfect and still in place exactly BECAUSE we are adopted and need the LAW to secure our inheritance provided to us by the owner who fulfills the Law...
The Law determines who lives here...of course we want to wipe our feet...and more
We certainly don’t want to be confused with the neighbors and live with them...or on other side of town...ha
And with a little Spirit led practice it becomes quite natural as we continue to do it...
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There is no such thing as "fallen man".
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Robert Pate states that it is impossible to keep the commandments.
The Bible states that it is not impossible to keep the commandments.
Deuteronomy 30:11-14 11 For this commandment which I command thee this day, it is not hidden from thee, neither is it far off. 12 It is not in heaven, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it? 13 Neither is it beyond the sea, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it? 14 But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it. |
Should I believe the Bible or Robert Pate?
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Believe the apostle Paul, Romans 3:10. Righteousness is not by the law. Righteousness is by faith.
Romans 5:12 refutes you.
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