Is there a risk of death from the covid vaccine?

Clete

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Everyone who takes the vaccine is at risk of being made sick from the vaccine. Everyone who has sex with a sodomite is at risk of getting sick also, and everyone who drives on the street is at risk of being hurt or killed by a drunk driver.
Your chances of getting into a car accident WAY out pace any risk of getting seriously ill from this vaccine and yet you drive every day of your life.

Your fear is irrational, marke. You've relegated yourself to making completely meaningless "arguments" in support of a baseless fear in willful spite of every rational thing that has been presented to you on this thread.

I don't even want to discuss the vaccine with you any longer. I don't care if you take the vaccine or not and never have. If you don't want to take it then fine, don't take it. What I'm far more concerned about is your intellectual dishonesty. And make no mistake about it, marke, that is precisely what you're putting on display here. You don't don't want to be persuaded, you don't care about reason or science or about any real thinking or wise decision making process. You want to be scared of the vaccine and you want others to join you in your mindless, frightened, conspiratorial misery. It's foolishness and you ought to embarrassed and ashamed of yourself.

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marke

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Fine. How about you knock it off with all of this talk of 'people being deluded and their judgement being in error' and the like then?
The time is soon coming when we will rejoice in the fact that the devil will deceive unbelievers on earth no more.
Revelation 20:10
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
 

marke

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Your chances of getting into a car accident WAY out pace any risk of getting seriously ill from this vaccine and yet you drive every day of your life.

Your fear is irrational, marke. You've relegated yourself to making completely meaningless "arguments" in support of a baseless fear in willful spite of every rational thing that has been presented to you on this thread.

I don't even want to discuss the vaccine with you any longer. I don't care if you take the vaccine or not and never have. If you don't want to take it then fine, don't take it. What I'm far more concerned about is your intellectual dishonesty. And make no mistake about it, marke, that is precisely what you're putting on display here. You don't don't want to be persuaded, you don't care about reason or science or about any real thinking or wise decision making process. You want to be scared of the vaccine and you want others to join you in your mindless, frightened, conspiratorial misery. It's foolishness and you ought to embarrassed and ashamed of yourself.

Clete
We tell our Christian children not to get the covid vaccine for many reasons. One reason is the fact that children are extremely unlikely to get covid with or without the vaccine, and risking sickness from the vaccine is unwise.
 

Clete

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We tell our Christian children not to get the covid vaccine for many reasons. One reason is the fact that children are extremely unlikely to get covid with or without the vaccine, and risking sickness from the vaccine is unwise.
Changing the subject doesn't help your case.
 

Clete

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I don't tell people to avoid all vaccines but I do tell people I oppose the covid vaccine for several reasons, just like I oppose aborted fetal tissue research of all kinds.
You tell them that in spite of every reason you've given here having been utterly refuted.

In other words, you don't do it for "several reasons" you do it because you've decided to be scared and want others to be scared with you.
 

marke

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You tell them that in spite of every reason you've given here having been utterly refuted.

In other words, you don't do it for "several reasons" you do it because you've decided to be scared and want others to be scared with you.
I am not convinced I am wrong by biased opinions backed by cherry-picked data. The evidence the biased secularists refuse to acknowledge proves they are not totally honest.
 

Clete

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I am not convinced I am wrong by biased opinions backed by cherry-picked data. The evidence the biased secularists refuse to acknowledge proves they are not totally honest.
It isn't opinion and it isn't cherry picked data, which has been demonstrated here multiple times already. It is hard scientific fact supported by published scientific study after scientific study, not to mention the literally hundreds of millions of administered doses with no statistically significant detrimental effects, which the very numbers that you accept as valid unequivocally prove.

You aren't convince because you cannot be convinced. You aren't the least bit interested in being convinced because what you want is to be frightened of the vaccine. That's what you want, marke. That's the only rational conclusion there is to draw from this discussion.

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marke

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It isn't opinion and it isn't cherry picked data, which has been demonstrated here multiple times already. It is hard scientific fact supported by published scientific study after scientific study, not to mention the literally hundreds of millions of administered doses with no statistically significant detrimental effects, which the very numbers that you accept as valid unequivocally prove.

You aren't convince because you cannot be convinced. You aren't the least bit interested in being convinced because what you want is to be frightened of the vaccine. That's what you want, marke. That's the only rational conclusion there is to draw from this discussion.

Clete
OK, Dr. Fauci and Chairman Mao, if you say so.
 

Clete

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OK, Dr. Fauci and Chairman Mao, if you say so.
No, it has nothing to do with me saying so. It is you who are merely saying things and ignoring sound reason and science. I'm the one making arguments and supporting my position with something more substantive that the mindless fear mongering you've offered up so far.
 

marke

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Science proves mas
No, it has nothing to do with me saying so. It is you who are merely saying things and ignoring sound reason and science. I'm the one making arguments and supporting my position with something more substantive that the mindless fear mongering you've offered up so far.
Science has proven masks do not stop the passage of covid particles and that there are risks of serious side effects or death from covid vaccines.
 

Clete

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Science proves mas

Science has proven masks do not stop the passage of covid particles and that there are risks of serious side effects or death from covid vaccines.
Why change the subject to masks?

I've already said, MULTIPLE TIMES, that mask wearing would have stopped over a year ago if it had anything to do with science. The science that exists demonstrates unequivocally that masks do nothing to mitigate the spread of respiratory viruses.

Do you still wear a mask or do you trust the science that says they don't work?
 

marke

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It isn't opinion and it isn't cherry picked data, which has been demonstrated here multiple times already. It is hard scientific fact supported by published scientific study after scientific study, not to mention the literally hundreds of millions of administered doses with no statistically significant detrimental effects, which the very numbers that you accept as valid unequivocally prove.

You aren't convince because you cannot be convinced. You aren't the least bit interested in being convinced because what you want is to be frightened of the vaccine. That's what you want, marke. That's the only rational conclusion there is to draw from this discussion.

Clete
The covid vaccines are new. They have not been through years of rigorous testing. Most of what is claimed is nothing but hope and not established fact. People do get sick from covid vaccines and people have died shortly after taking the vaccines. Any lawyer worth his salt could easily convince a jury the vaccine was the culprit if there was money to be made by suing the manufacturer, the administrator, or the business person demanding his employees get the vaccine.
 

chair

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The covid vaccines are new. They have not been through years of rigorous testing. Most of what is claimed is nothing but hope and not established fact. People do get sick from covid vaccines and people have died shortly after taking the vaccines. Any lawyer worth his salt could easily convince a jury the vaccine was the culprit if there was money to be made by suing the manufacturer, the administrator, or the business person demanding his employees get the vaccine.
The vaccine was approved as an emergency measure. You know- because of a pandemic, and millions of people dying? Maybe you heard about that?
 

marke

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The vaccine was approved as an emergency measure. You know- because of a pandemic, and millions of people dying? Maybe you heard about that?
Masks and shutdowns were approved as emergency measures also in initial efforts to combat the virus Fauci and China were responsible for developing. But those initial measures proved to have serious damaging side effects as well as not being as effective as initially hoped. New vaccines also promise hope of a cure but that hoped for cure has not yet been proven to be without dangerous side effects.
 

marke

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When was it over? and where?
According to proud and deluded fascist democrats the danger will never be over and brutal shutdowns and masking and vaccination mandates lifted as long as there is a danger one more old person might catch the virus and die.
 
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