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So then, according to you, Jesus and Paul and the whole Bible say worthless things.
You saying no one harms their neighbor is one of the stupider things I have heard you say.
How the Gospel Interprets the Bible
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So then, according to you, Jesus and Paul and the whole Bible say worthless things.
You saying no one harms their neighbor is one of the stupider things I have heard you say.
YAY!
lifeisgood
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No to all. Yes to all.
lifeisgood
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lifeisgood
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What did you put in your coffee today, gt?
God's Truth
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What else you got?
glorydaz
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Here she is....yapping just to be yapping.
Seems like you're getting a bit hyperactive again, Moriah.
Wind gusts to be expected?
God's Truth
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I think you described what you are doing...lol...yapping jut to be yapping.
At least you spelled the name right this time.
I am glad you finally got it.
Robert Pate is constantly being beaten down when he seek to point out that, Jesus did-away-with the ten commandments for Christians. And at the same time, Jesus left the ten commandments intact for those who choose to not become Christians and instead remain under the ten commandments:
Romans: 3 King James Version (KJV)
19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
The Holy KJV N.T. says, very clearly, that Christians are not under the ten commandments:
Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death
In no uncertain terms, the above revelations from Paul say that one becomes 'dead to the law when one is in the body of Christ'.
The above says also, that 'the law which one becomes dead to when one is in the body of Christ', is the 'thou shalt not covet' commandment (and therefore by extension all the ten commandments).
The above say that one becomes dead to the ten commandments when one become a Christians.
Therefore those who in the least manner, esteem use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments cannot be and are not, Christians. Christ has benefited them nothing and they are not under Grace of God.
The above say also that 'the commandment were ordained to be onto life but were found to be onto death'. They killeth in some way.
Again the above confirms that, 'the commandment which were ordained to be onto life but were found to be onto death' is the 'thou shalt not covet' commandment (and therefore by extension all the ten commandments).
The above says, in no uncertain terms that the ten commandments 'killeth', i.e. the above says that those who, even in the least way, esteem use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments, are made and kept, 'the dead'.
The above is linked to Jesus' statement of disgust to his disciple: "follow me and let the dead bury their dead".
Matthew: 8 KJV N.T.
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.
In the above, Jesus told his disciple, you follow me and leave alone, those harden and foolish people who (by their own choice) want to continue to esteem use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments which killeth. Leave them to continue to be 'the dead' who bury each other.
The ten commandments are the ministration of death and the devil, in ideas form. And 2000 odd years ago, Jesus did-away-with the ten commandments and replaced them with His Spirit. Only a chosen few accepted Jesus and His finding and His actions.
A billion strong Catholics and a billion strong traditional Christians denied Jesus and his findings and his works and continued to esteem use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments. Of course they all (falsely) parrot platitudes to Jesus. It is all a 'wash'. Clearly they are the deceived masses. They cannot be and are not the chosen few.
2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
Hebrews: 2 KJV N.T.
14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
It is clearly stared that the ten commandments are the ministration of death (written and engraved in stone). Therefore Jesus came to destroy, the ten commandments who is 'him who had the power of death, that is the devil.
And the above confirmed that Jesus did-away-with (destroyed) the ten commandments and replaced them with His Spirit. The sorry fact is, that only a chosen few followed Jesus and heeded his finding and embrace his new covenant.
Billion ignored and also denied Jesus and instead, present half baked rhetoric to justify their continuing esteeming, using, invoking and/or promotion of the ten commandments, which is the devil (in ideas form) and which makes them and keeps them the dead who bury each other.
The question is will you guys deny the above, which are clear and literal revelations from the Holy KJV N.T.. That is, will you guys deny the above because you delight in the ten commandments which are the devil in ideas form and which killeth spiritual awareness?
All who, in the least manner, esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments, are the dead who bury each other inside the earth, in hell with Satan/Peter.
Hebrews: 8 KJV N.T.
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
Romans: 3 King James Version (KJV)
19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
The Holy KJV N.T. says, very clearly, that Christians are not under the ten commandments:
Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death
In no uncertain terms, the above revelations from Paul say that one becomes 'dead to the law when one is in the body of Christ'.
The above says also, that 'the law which one becomes dead to when one is in the body of Christ', is the 'thou shalt not covet' commandment (and therefore by extension all the ten commandments).
The above say that one becomes dead to the ten commandments when one become a Christians.
Therefore those who in the least manner, esteem use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments cannot be and are not, Christians. Christ has benefited them nothing and they are not under Grace of God.
The above say also that 'the commandment were ordained to be onto life but were found to be onto death'. They killeth in some way.
Again the above confirms that, 'the commandment which were ordained to be onto life but were found to be onto death' is the 'thou shalt not covet' commandment (and therefore by extension all the ten commandments).
The above says, in no uncertain terms that the ten commandments 'killeth', i.e. the above says that those who, even in the least way, esteem use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments, are made and kept, 'the dead'.
The above is linked to Jesus' statement of disgust to his disciple: "follow me and let the dead bury their dead".
Matthew: 8 KJV N.T.
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.
In the above, Jesus told his disciple, you follow me and leave alone, those harden and foolish people who (by their own choice) want to continue to esteem use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments which killeth. Leave them to continue to be 'the dead' who bury each other.
The ten commandments are the ministration of death and the devil, in ideas form. And 2000 odd years ago, Jesus did-away-with the ten commandments and replaced them with His Spirit. Only a chosen few accepted Jesus and His finding and His actions.
A billion strong Catholics and a billion strong traditional Christians denied Jesus and his findings and his works and continued to esteem use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments. Of course they all (falsely) parrot platitudes to Jesus. It is all a 'wash'. Clearly they are the deceived masses. They cannot be and are not the chosen few.
2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
Hebrews: 2 KJV N.T.
14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
It is clearly stared that the ten commandments are the ministration of death (written and engraved in stone). Therefore Jesus came to destroy, the ten commandments who is 'him who had the power of death, that is the devil.
And the above confirmed that Jesus did-away-with (destroyed) the ten commandments and replaced them with His Spirit. The sorry fact is, that only a chosen few followed Jesus and heeded his finding and embrace his new covenant.
Billion ignored and also denied Jesus and instead, present half baked rhetoric to justify their continuing esteeming, using, invoking and/or promotion of the ten commandments, which is the devil (in ideas form) and which makes them and keeps them the dead who bury each other.
The question is will you guys deny the above, which are clear and literal revelations from the Holy KJV N.T.. That is, will you guys deny the above because you delight in the ten commandments which are the devil in ideas form and which killeth spiritual awareness?
All who, in the least manner, esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments, are the dead who bury each other inside the earth, in hell with Satan/Peter.
Hebrews: 8 KJV N.T.
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
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lifeisgood
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Prove with scripture that Moses DID ENTER the Promised Land.
Prove your favorite apostle James wrong:
James 2:10 - For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking ALL of it. (That's that ALL again)
lifeisgood
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Your tendency, gt, is to DIVIDE the law into compartments such as ceremonial, civil, moral, dietary, royal, etc. thinking that that will make the law more palatable.
Even your favorite apostle James contradicts you, gt.
James 2:10 - For whoever keeps the WHOLE law and yet stumbles at JUST ONE POINT is guilty of breaking ALL of it. (That's that ALL again)
What James says is exactly what Moses did, Moses stumbled in just one point and therefore the law condemned him (and he was forbidden entrance into the Promised Land).
Here is what the Lord told Moses: “Because you did not trust in me enough to honor me as holy in the sight of the Israelites, you will not bring this community into the land I give them” (Numbers 20:12).
- God had commanded Moses to SPEAK to the rock. Yes? Yes. (Numbers 20:8)
- Instead Moses STRUCK the rock with his staff a second time, therefore, crucifying Christ again.
- He was prideful taking credit for the water saying "Must we [referring to himself and Aaron] bring you water out of this rock?" He did not glorify God.
- Moses did this in front of everybody there. God could not let this example of direct rebellion go unpunished.
- Talking to the rock was a type of prayer, striking the rock again was like crucifying Christ again.
Moses punishment? Being barred from entering the Promise Land (Numbers 20:12).
I can hear your response, 'but…. But…. But….'
lifeisgood
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There's your division of the law again.
So, you disagree with your favorite apostle:
James 2:10 - For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking ALL of it. (That's that ALL again)
So, you're calling your favorite apostle James a liar or are you saying that James did not know what Jesus said and rejected what Jesus said or are you saying that you will not again cite James?
There are some things that we don't agree on, but we most certainly agree that the law has been abolished by our loving savior Jesus Christ.
God's Truth
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You are the one who doesn't understand that if I preach against getting physically circumcised and other purification works, then I am speaking of a NEW LAW given by Jesus.
You also don't know that there are WORKS of the old law to purify oneself.
God's Truth
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James is speaking about how we have to obey. How is is that you do don't get that?
If one did not obey, they won't be called to be put to death by God, they are called to ask for forgiveness and repent.
Are you kidding? Moses didn't steal or commit adultery, etc.
Go think about it some more.
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Robert Pate is disgusting for giving you 'thanks'.
You call yourself a 'Guru' which means 'Teacher'. Jesus says not to do that.
You also say Peter is Satan.
Gurucam says Peter is the Antichrist; and Robert Pate gives Gurucam encouragement with 'thanks'.
I said that I don't agree wit all that Gurucam believes. But I do believe that the law has been abolished.
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You chose to give your limited precious thanks to him, and it tells a lot about you.
marhig
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Yes they all obeyed him, as soon as Jesus did "follow me" they obeyed him, and Paul obeyed him too straight away when he said " what will you have me to do Lord" then he did it.
They were all doers and not hearers only.