Do you attribute the drop in measles cases/deaths per year to anything other than the measles vaccination? If so, what?
How many people actually caught measles from the vaccination?
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Do you attribute the drop in measles cases/deaths per year to anything other than the measles vaccination? If so, what?
drbrumley
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Yes, better sanitation requirements and nutrition. as far as deaths go.
Are you saying that vaccination, in and of itself, has done nothing to prevent the spread of diseases?
drbrumley
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Still here isn't it?
What about smallpox?
Daedalean's_Sun
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Yeah, sanitation must have been reaaaaally good in 1973 for measles cases to plummet that quickly, and in the same year the measles vaccine was introduced. Coincidence I'm sure.
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Daedalean's_Sun
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Is this really your argument?
drbrumley
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Yeah, sanitation must have been reaaaaally good in 1973 for measles cases to plummet that quickly, and in the same year the measles vaccine was introduced. Coincidence I'm sure.
I'm talking about the mortality rate from measles. Your sarcasm noted.
drbrumley
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I find it funny all you pro vaxxers for everyone concerning measles; is all you folks have done is transfer the disease to more vunerable age groups now who probably will die from it. Great job!!!!!
Daedalean's_Sun
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The facts simply don't bear that out. The overwhelming majority of those that catch the disease are unvaccinated, as too are those that die from it.
Daedalean's_Sun
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The mortality rate largely mirrors the incidence rate.
Thanks ... and thanks to Anna B.
With my newly acquired powers I now offer this graphic. There are many more like this. They stand in stark contrast to those offered that indicate that vaccines are not only innocuous but beneficial. I think the old admonition about statistics applies here and elsewhere and that's why I'm greatly interested in personal stories and skeptical of stats. Stats are, as often as not, compiled by folks paid by folks who have their own agenda be they pro or anti vaccine or any other concern.
Said another way, all these cute graphs suggest possible correlations that can't be confirmed by statistical analysis alone. Statistics suggest possibilities but they do not constitute proof of anything to anyone other than those predisposed to believe both their veracity and hypothetical conclusions. That is why I am much more interested in the personal experiences of others rather than the statistical offerings of those whose motives are, at best, questionable.
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So, statistically speaking, did we trade measles for autism? I mean, how many commercials offering pharmaceuticals that spend 5 seconds offering benefits while spending the next 25 seconds explaining their possible problems do we have to watch before we begin to suspect that the pharmaceutical industry isn't so much interested in offering cures as it is acquiring life long customers for products that treat symptoms but not their causes ... products whose benefits are overshadowed by their drawbacks?
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Your opinion matters ?
https://www.federalregister.gov/art...on-the-draft-national-adult-immunization-plan
https://www.federalregister.gov/art...on-the-draft-national-adult-immunization-plan
drbrumley
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I looked up the data on frequency of autism over the years. Then I checked the percentage of people using cellular phones over the same period.
Doing a regression analysis, the formula for the regression line is:
y=4.857 + 0.054x. In other words, the more cell phones being used, the more autism.
Coefficient of correlation is:
r= 0.9534
Which, as you might know, is a remarkably strong correlation.
Then for the same period, I ran the analysis on frequency of autism with percentage of kids immunized with MMR.
The regression equation is: y=92.843 - 0.015x. In other words, the fewer kids immunized, the more autism we had.
The correlation coefficient is:
r= -0.9257
Again, a very good relationship, but a negative one. So we can be very confident of the results.
Clearly, cell phones cause autism, and vaccination prevents autism. (WFTH-I)
Doing a regression analysis, the formula for the regression line is:
y=4.857 + 0.054x. In other words, the more cell phones being used, the more autism.
Coefficient of correlation is:
r= 0.9534
Which, as you might know, is a remarkably strong correlation.
Then for the same period, I ran the analysis on frequency of autism with percentage of kids immunized with MMR.
The regression equation is: y=92.843 - 0.015x. In other words, the fewer kids immunized, the more autism we had.
The correlation coefficient is:
r= -0.9257
Again, a very good relationship, but a negative one. So we can be very confident of the results.
Clearly, cell phones cause autism, and vaccination prevents autism. (WFTH-I)
drbrumley
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Yep, we can make stats say anything we want.