Is that how parents feel about their children? Or do parents love each child individually?
Romans 8:16 The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God...
Has All Been Fulfilled? Have Heaven and Earth Passed?
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Is that how parents feel about their children? Or do parents love each child individually?
Rondonmonson
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Our parents are not Holy. On the cross why did Jesus say, "My God, My God, why have you Forsaken/Left me ?
Because God can not come into the presence of sin, he had to LEAVE JESUS the Sacrifice on the cross when all of our sins were upon him. Gods glory will destroy unpurged sin. Moses couldn't look upon God, the High Priests were told not to open the Ark of the Covenant and look upon God, lest they die.
The part in the commandment itself where it clearly states it was given to the stranger foreigner non native non Israelite...even the animals were to receive rest...the part where God says the Sabbath was made for man not just Israel...the part where whosoever believeth in Him will Love Him and keep His commandments...
The part where at creation He made EVERYTHING for ALL mankind but you think He kept Sabbath for Israel...at that creation man was created in His image to do as He did...since He rested on the seventh day we should too...that is the patterned example
The part where Isaiah says all nations will come and worship Sabbath to Sabbath...the part where Paul is clear we who are of Jesus Christ are grafted into the trunk and root of Israel...that root and trunk keeps the Sabbath...
He didn't have to...they volunteered to leave Egypt and journey into the desert with a foreign God to receive His literal Sabbath day rest...Exodus 12:38 makes that clear that they wanted to go along...as later it is repeated the same Law for Israel and the non Israelite.
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Jesus' words symbolize the second death.
As an integral aspect of creation the Sabbath existed even before Jacob. The sun day was the day of worship for Egyptians. Some people have left Egypt, some people haven't.
Funny how He told us not to worship idols as that is exactly what you are doing. Equating Him to the sun or moon or temple is why people bowed to them...
You are no different than one who claims He is the golden calf...
Exactly wrong...physical rest is exactly what we get...and as we rest we learn of spiritual rest...
Akin to His first feeding the crowds then teaching them...
Just like we don't kill physically to learn how not to kill spiritually
Or we don't rape so as to learn love..
All the commandments were at once temporally motivated and spiritually oriented...
It was to be "rather mercy than sacrifice"...
we will know by your fruit and works...
Not eating foods offered to idols is kosher as is not eating blood or meat killed by strangulation.
3/4 of the requests of Gentiles to associate with joos in their now crowded synagogues to hear Moses read to them all...
James knew gentiles were going to continue to flood the synagogues to hear Moses read to them every Sabbath so some basic house rules of cleansing was required of them just like in the desert of old...
He could easily have told that rabble of non Israelites to meet the day after on Sunday or Thor'sday...or anywhere else but he did not...
He knew just like in the desert in that church of the wilderness as st Stephen called it...they were welcome to come along and join as they wished to participate fully if they chose...
He continued to be faithful and did not teach there was a change in the Law nor live that way...
He also asked we copy him as he copied his Savior too...
Heaven has not passed away. Heaven is here among authentic Christians, for 2000 years
Heaven has not passed away. Heaven is here among authentic Christians, for 2000 years
However there are just a few authentic Christians. The very great majority have not found the straight gate and narrow way that leadeth to life and heaven.
The billion strong traditional Christians are not a few. They cannot be and are not, the few who have found the straight gate and narrow way that leadeth to life and heaven. They are make believe Christians:
Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
The straight gate and narrow way that leadeth to eternal life and heaven is also the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. One of these secret or mystery to God's kingdom of heaven is: The path to God's kingdom of heaven is anchored in transgressing the 'thou shall not covert' commandments so as to serve in the newness of spirit:
Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
Notice that the law which one has become dead to and which one must transgress in order to serve in the newness of spirit, is the 'thou shall not covet' commandment. A law in the ten commandments.
The above is an instruction to transgress the 'thou shall not covet' commandments so as to serve in the newness of spirit. This is how one stops bringing forth children of the flesh (like Ishmael) and start bringing forth only children of God (like Isaac).
The above also confirm that the 'thou shall not covert' commandment, killeth.
2000 odd years ago the thou shall not covet commandment was done away with for those who can be and are led by the newness of spirit.
2000 odd years ago, heaven was made available to those who transgress the 'thou shall not covet' commandments so as serve in the newness of spirit.
By transgressing (disobeying) the 'thou shall not covet' commandments so as to serve in the newness of spirit one brings forth only children of God who are fruits onto God. Only such people inherit God's kingdom of heaven.
A person who even in the slightest way esteem, invoke and use the 'thou shall not covet' commandments brings forth only fruits onto death and do not inherit God's kingdom of heaven:
Matthew: 21 KJV N.T.
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof
'Fruits thereof' are fruits of God. With respect to procreative sex, fruits onto God are children of spirit/children of God (like Isaac).
This is so very clearly laid out in the Holy KJV N.T. Yet at least a billion people are out there making up and doing their own (corrupt) thing. That is , they are corruptly promoting the 'thou shall not covet' commandments as a Christian thing.
Many people invoke the 'thou shall not covet' commandments to keep their spouses locked into a spiritless/loveless marriage with them. Then they go on to have routine carnal (loveless/spiritless) sex in those marriage . . . invariably bringing forth only children of the flesh and no children of God.
They bring forth only children of the flesh. Neither such parents nor their offspring can or will inherit God's kingdom of heaven:
Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise (of the Spirit/Love).
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son (Ishmael, the child of the flesh): for the son of the bondwoman (Ishmael) shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman (Isaac, the child of God)
One must be free to have procreative out of an expression of spirit/love (whether in a marriage or outside of a marriage, also whether in one's own marriage or not). Only then will one bring forth children of God.
Those in a 'ten commandments' type marriage bring forth only children of the flesh . . . so says the Holy KJV N.T..
A billion strong traditional Christians esteem and promote 'ten commandments' type marriages. They do not esteem and promote free spirit/love unions. The former is Anti-Christ. The latter is Christian.
Heaven has not passed away. Heaven is here among authentic Christians, for 2000 years
However there are just a few authentic Christians. The very great majority have not found the straight gate and narrow way that leadeth to life and heaven.
The billion strong traditional Christians are not a few. They cannot be and are not, the few who have found the straight gate and narrow way that leadeth to life and heaven. They are make believe Christians:
Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
The straight gate and narrow way that leadeth to eternal life and heaven is also the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. One of these secret or mystery to God's kingdom of heaven is: The path to God's kingdom of heaven is anchored in transgressing the 'thou shall not covert' commandments so as to serve in the newness of spirit:
Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
Notice that the law which one has become dead to and which one must transgress in order to serve in the newness of spirit, is the 'thou shall not covet' commandment. A law in the ten commandments.
The above is an instruction to transgress the 'thou shall not covet' commandments so as to serve in the newness of spirit. This is how one stops bringing forth children of the flesh (like Ishmael) and start bringing forth only children of God (like Isaac).
The above also confirm that the 'thou shall not covert' commandment, killeth.
2000 odd years ago the thou shall not covet commandment was done away with for those who can be and are led by the newness of spirit.
2000 odd years ago, heaven was made available to those who transgress the 'thou shall not covet' commandments so as serve in the newness of spirit.
By transgressing (disobeying) the 'thou shall not covet' commandments so as to serve in the newness of spirit one brings forth only children of God who are fruits onto God. Only such people inherit God's kingdom of heaven.
A person who even in the slightest way esteem, invoke and use the 'thou shall not covet' commandments brings forth only fruits onto death and do not inherit God's kingdom of heaven:
Matthew: 21 KJV N.T.
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof
'Fruits thereof' are fruits of God. With respect to procreative sex, fruits onto God are children of spirit/children of God (like Isaac).
This is so very clearly laid out in the Holy KJV N.T. Yet at least a billion people are out there making up and doing their own (corrupt) thing. That is , they are corruptly promoting the 'thou shall not covet' commandments as a Christian thing.
Many people invoke the 'thou shall not covet' commandments to keep their spouses locked into a spiritless/loveless marriage with them. Then they go on to have routine carnal (loveless/spiritless) sex in those marriage . . . invariably bringing forth only children of the flesh and no children of God.
They bring forth only children of the flesh. Neither such parents nor their offspring can or will inherit God's kingdom of heaven:
Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise (of the Spirit/Love).
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son (Ishmael, the child of the flesh): for the son of the bondwoman (Ishmael) shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman (Isaac, the child of God)
One must be free to have procreative out of an expression of spirit/love (whether in a marriage or outside of a marriage, also whether in one's own marriage or not). Only then will one bring forth children of God.
Those in a 'ten commandments' type marriage bring forth only children of the flesh . . . so says the Holy KJV N.T..
A billion strong traditional Christians esteem and promote 'ten commandments' type marriages. They do not esteem and promote free spirit/love unions. The former is Anti-Christ. The latter is Christian.
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You are forgetting His attending was because it was His custom...He only preached the last few years of His life...it is true He announced His ministry in a synagogue and did preach and teach...but that was after He announced His ministry...Before that He went because it was His custom...a tradition if you may...of Keeping His Father's Law...not once did He say there would be a change or cessation of this either...in fact He amplified Sabbath keeping magnifying the Spirit of it not the letter...
Gonna have to make some changes again to the scripture to make Paul say what you want it to say...
"8Therefore let us keep the festival,
There...fixed it for you...
yup so they wouldn't have to work to gather and prepare it...funny thing about manna is that it fell to teach the count of Sabbaths and was actually occuring before Sinai...
all the more reason to celebrate Sabbath
ditto...
you keep ignoring He instructed them to pray that when the future time of tribulation came they would not have to flee in the winter or break the Sabbath...
So obviously it remained to be kept even after He was gone...
Obviously as Paul writes there remains then a Sabbath rest for the people of God...
He did not write "there remains then a constant rest" or a "Jesus is now the Sabbath day" or some variation of that...
He could have...but he didn't as it is not true...that's another gospel...
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Although the Hebrews letter reflects Paul's teachings I believe it was written after Paul's death. The writer did not reveal her name so as to not comprise the credibility of her letter.
Of course I am not saying that...and He is especially not resting since that original 7th day...
Once that next day came it was unholy time again...
It was meant to be a literal day's stoppage time with Him first...but after the fall it had both new temporal and spiritual importance.
Ummm nope...the yoke was teaching one had to be circumcised and obey the Law in order to be saved...that was impossible to bear...even in the OT it was faith then works...
His yoke is light...faith in Him doesn't cause the Law/yoke to fall away, just ya know...be light...
Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
Notice that when one was in the flesh (i.e. when one was spiritually dead), the motions of sins, which were by the law (i.e. by the ten commandments), did work in one to bring forth fruit unto death.
Notice also, that the law referred to above is the ten commandments, the law of sin and death. The revelation actually mention the the 'thou shall not covert' commandment which is confirmed by Paul 'to be onto death'.
The literal and clear message is: when one cease being 'the dead' and becomes newly spiritually aware (i.e. when one becomes converted), one has to transgress the ten commandments (i.e. the thou shall not covert commandment), so as to serve in the newness of spirit. This is how one stops bringing forth 'fruits onto death' (i.e. children of the flesh) and start bringing forth 'fruits onto God' (i.e. children of God).
Jesus confirmed that: In order to serve in the newness of spirit one must be newly converted:
Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and (then) I should heal them.
Healing by Jesus is anchored on transgressing the ten commandments so as to serve in the newness of spirit.
The opening post instructs: If one is in marriage that is held together by the dictates of the ten commandments and one cease being the spiritually dead and becomes spiritually aware, one must walk away from that old marriage/union and form new ones with new spouses/mates, according to the urging of spirit/love.
The above is how one will stop bringing forth children of the flesh and start bringing forth children of God. Then one and one's children can and will inherit God's kingdom of heaven.
The above is literally and purely what the Holy KJV N.T. says (no interpretation was done or required). The above is simply the plain and literal truth.
Of course, in unison, a billion strong traditional Christians corrupt, distort and undermine the above literal truth Holy KJV N.T. They therefore err and cannot be the chosen few. They are Old people in Moses. They are not New people in Christ. They are simply masquerading as Christians.
Indeed, the above will not stroke/pamper the sensibilities of the billion strong traditional Christians. It is not supposed to do so.
A billion strong traditional Christians cannot be the few who found the straight gate and narrow way that leadeth to life and heaven. A billion strong traditional Christians must be the many who are deceived by false prophets:
Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
However it is time for, at least, you guys to awaken to truth in these last days, before too late is your cry.
Are you guys appreciating me for posting these literal truths from the Holy KJV N.T., as they are?
Or are you guys seeking ways to crucify, corrupt and relegate these clear and literal revelations from the Holy KJV N.T. so as to prop-up your O.T. ideas?
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
Notice that when one was in the flesh (i.e. when one was spiritually dead), the motions of sins, which were by the law (i.e. by the ten commandments), did work in one to bring forth fruit unto death.
Notice also, that the law referred to above is the ten commandments, the law of sin and death. The revelation actually mention the the 'thou shall not covert' commandment which is confirmed by Paul 'to be onto death'.
The literal and clear message is: when one cease being 'the dead' and becomes newly spiritually aware (i.e. when one becomes converted), one has to transgress the ten commandments (i.e. the thou shall not covert commandment), so as to serve in the newness of spirit. This is how one stops bringing forth 'fruits onto death' (i.e. children of the flesh) and start bringing forth 'fruits onto God' (i.e. children of God).
Jesus confirmed that: In order to serve in the newness of spirit one must be newly converted:
Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and (then) I should heal them.
Healing by Jesus is anchored on transgressing the ten commandments so as to serve in the newness of spirit.
The opening post instructs: If one is in marriage that is held together by the dictates of the ten commandments and one cease being the spiritually dead and becomes spiritually aware, one must walk away from that old marriage/union and form new ones with new spouses/mates, according to the urging of spirit/love.
The above is how one will stop bringing forth children of the flesh and start bringing forth children of God. Then one and one's children can and will inherit God's kingdom of heaven.
The above is literally and purely what the Holy KJV N.T. says (no interpretation was done or required). The above is simply the plain and literal truth.
Of course, in unison, a billion strong traditional Christians corrupt, distort and undermine the above literal truth Holy KJV N.T. They therefore err and cannot be the chosen few. They are Old people in Moses. They are not New people in Christ. They are simply masquerading as Christians.
Indeed, the above will not stroke/pamper the sensibilities of the billion strong traditional Christians. It is not supposed to do so.
A billion strong traditional Christians cannot be the few who found the straight gate and narrow way that leadeth to life and heaven. A billion strong traditional Christians must be the many who are deceived by false prophets:
Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
However it is time for, at least, you guys to awaken to truth in these last days, before too late is your cry.
Are you guys appreciating me for posting these literal truths from the Holy KJV N.T., as they are?
Or are you guys seeking ways to crucify, corrupt and relegate these clear and literal revelations from the Holy KJV N.T. so as to prop-up your O.T. ideas?
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So her name remains secret?
Not sure what you are getting at...
The commandment is thou shalt not covet ....not covert or convert...
As for you should break the law...yeah I don't get it
TweetyBird
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What is the point of being a Christian and not living holy unto the Lord every day? Isaiah was pre-cross and all he prophesied was fulfilled in Christ. There is not one commandment to keep the Sabbath in the NT.
TweetyBird
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When Christ came, the Mosaic Law was no longer referred to as "God's Laws". Jesus referred to them as "your laws"/"of the Jews". Jesus did not teach the Mosaic Law. Jesus has a new house - it's not Moses's house any longer.