Gunman executes 2 NYPD cops as ‘revenge’ for Garner
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JPPT1974
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Just like hatred, we are not born hatred, it is acquired by. The same way is with violence, we are not born with violence, it is acquired by and sadly taught.
To live in a Christian and non-violent peaceful world we must, learn to put aside our differences and work together. Plus lean on the Lord. For His guidance and His understanding. Learning to agree to disagree.
To live in a Christian and non-violent peaceful world we must, learn to put aside our differences and work together. Plus lean on the Lord. For His guidance and His understanding. Learning to agree to disagree.
You have a lot of common sense. You're going to make all sorts of people angry here.
So when God, with the flick of His little pinky finger, tossed that two bit punk Satan out of Heaven, why instead didn't He just say:
"Stick around Lucifer, we must learn to put aside our differences and work together"?
Good and evil working together, that's quite the concept boyz.
Mr. 5020
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I think I agree. The biggest problem I have with the reaction of my brethren to this whole situation is a complete lack of empathy. There seems to be no regard (with exception, of course) to the reason people feel the way they do.
Just like hatred, we are not born hatred, it is acquired by. The same way is with violence, we are not born with violence, it is acquired by and sadly taught.
To live in a Christian and non-violent peaceful world we must, learn to put aside our differences and work together. Plus lean on the Lord. For His guidance and His understanding. Learning to agree to disagree.
Connie reacts to the opinion of a genuine Christian:
Neither the police nor minorities are entirely good or entirely evil. Once you decide one or the other is Satan, you have turned your back on God and His laws.
So long as you persist in that delusion, He cannot help you. I hope you get better, Connie.
To live in a Christian and non-violent peaceful world we must, learn to put aside our differences and work together. Plus lean on the Lord. For His guidance and His understanding. Learning to agree to disagree.
Connie reacts to the opinion of a genuine Christian:
Neither the police nor minorities are entirely good or entirely evil. Once you decide one or the other is Satan, you have turned your back on God and His laws.
So long as you persist in that delusion, He cannot help you. I hope you get better, Connie.
IMJerusha
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I agree but the reality is that this is not a Christian world. It seems that people do not want it to be a Christian world. It's very sad.
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So when God, with the flick of His little pinky finger, tossed that two bit punk Satan out of Heaven, why instead didn't He just say:
"Stick around Lucifer, we must learn to put aside our differences and work together"?
Good and evil working together, that's quite the concept boyz.
Boy barbarian, that post had the quality of your "legalize incest" posts in my WHMBR Part 3 thread.
God's institution of civil government, in this case law enforcement, is inherently good. If laws are changed that are abusive then that's not on God, it's on the people that vote in their legislators.
Police officers on a individual basis can be good or evil, the vast majority are good.
Regarding minorites: Groups are made up of individuals, and unless that group has some kind of immoral doctrine (and the last time I checked those with dark skin color don't) then it's individuals that commit evil acts, not "groups".
So, when should good and evil start working together for the betterment of mankind barbarian?
So when God, with the flick of His little pinky finger, tossed that two bit punk Satan out of Heaven, why instead didn't He just say:
"Stick around Lucifer, we must learn to put aside our differences and work together"?
Good and evil working together, that's quite the concept boyz.
Boy barbarian, that post had the quality of your "legalize incest" posts in my WHMBR Part 3 thread.
God's institution of civil government, in this case law enforcement, is inherently good. If laws are changed that are abusive then that's not on God, it's on the people that vote in their legislators.
Police officers on a individual basis can be good or evil, the vast majority are good.
Regarding minorites: Groups are made up of individuals, and unless that group has some kind of immoral doctrine (and the last time I checked those with dark skin color don't) then it's individuals that commit evil acts, not "groups".
So, when should good and evil start working together for the betterment of mankind barbarian?
(Connie presents the issues between police and minorities as the struggle between God and Satan)
Barbarian observes:
Neither the police nor minorities are entirely good or entirely evil.
Yes, we know that you have substituted government for God. But I don't see anyone else lining up to worship that particular idol. In fact, government, unless carefully kept in check, is inherently evil. No human can resist unlimited power for very long.
Like most people. It's always the rapists, thug, and thieves among them that give them a bad name. One thing that bothers most people, is that police officers tend to protect the criminals among them. And many police express concern that if they don't, they will be targeted by those that do.
The answer isn't striking back at police nor is it cracking down on the minority community; it's in building confidence and trust in each other. A slow process, but the only one that will work.
When you try to depict a conflict between two groups of people such as police and minority citizens, as the struggle between good and evil, you're just enabling evil.
Barbarian observes:
Neither the police nor minorities are entirely good or entirely evil.
Yes, we know that you have substituted government for God. But I don't see anyone else lining up to worship that particular idol. In fact, government, unless carefully kept in check, is inherently evil. No human can resist unlimited power for very long.
Like most people. It's always the rapists, thug, and thieves among them that give them a bad name. One thing that bothers most people, is that police officers tend to protect the criminals among them. And many police express concern that if they don't, they will be targeted by those that do.
The answer isn't striking back at police nor is it cracking down on the minority community; it's in building confidence and trust in each other. A slow process, but the only one that will work.
When you try to depict a conflict between two groups of people such as police and minority citizens, as the struggle between good and evil, you're just enabling evil.
(Note how the white liberal racist has implied that people of color are inherently criminal).
The answer, as you're implying, is not to turn a blind eye to evil/criminal behavior, which you liberals have been doing for decades, hence the moral cesspool that we're currently living in.
The answer is to hold all people, no matter what their skin color is, up to a higher standard.
Once you white liberal racists realize that, the world will be a better place for all.
Quincy
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This is a sad tragedy. At one point durings the 2000s, I thought race was becoming a non-issue in the US, at least for the majority. Now it seems like there are more racists among whites and blacks then there were back in the 90s when all that happened to Rodney King.
I don't think they'll be a civil war ( :chuckle: ) but it's bad times out there, depending on where you live. It's sad to see race relations turn so sour under the watch of the first black president.
I don't think they'll be a civil war ( :chuckle: ) but it's bad times out there, depending on where you live. It's sad to see race relations turn so sour under the watch of the first black president.
Of course the biggest white racists are liberals like you and the barbarian who are constantly making excuses for immoral behavior by people of color.
Quincy
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I am not a liberal and I made no excuses for anyone. I said things are worse now than they were in the 90s and it's pretty sad both black and white people have let progress implode under the adminstration of a man who once was a symbol of racism disappearing. He hasn't done anything to make it better, but rather worse. I'm not going to defend anyone's bad behavior, regardless of their "color" as you put it. A vocal group of blacks are still sore over slavery and are lead by con artists like Sharpton. They don't seek equality but rather special treatment. They're no better than people like you, although I suspect they have better reading comprehension.
99lamb
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It is not about Obama's color, its all about his philosophy how he views the world. The simplest deflection is to make it about race, rather than scrutinize the underlying philosophy that he and others like him act upon.
Garner's family has released a statement expressing their disapproval and outrage.
“They Take 1 of Ours, Let’s Take 2 of Theirs” New York Man Executes Two Cops in Revenge Attack
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/2-nypd-cops-killed/#ZKrjXMKoz63c1wD0.99
http://nypost.com/2014/12/20/2-nypd-cops-shot-execution-style-in-brooklyn/
Mentality that is no different than the kkk - its just in reverse. Wonder why liberals cannot understand that.
PureX
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I don't know about Ferguson, but in the New York incident, the police have been given orders by the city administration to 'crack down hard' on petty crime, and make the streets safe and pleasant for wealthy white people, again. And cities all across the country are doing the same.
Because of our dire economic situation, there are more poor people, everywhere, and with poverty comes petty crime, and unsightly homelessness. And this is bad for business, and bad for the whole "greed is good" image that our wealthy overlords are seeking to promote. So cities are "cracking down" on overt expressions of poverty all over America. This is what led directly to the incident in New York. All it took was one violent cop to get carried away, and someone to catch it on video. (And then a guilty administration to try and sweep it under the rug, while a hyperbolic media plays it up as the crime of the century.)
The point is that it wasn't and isn't necessarily a race issue, except that because of 150 years of systematic racism in this country, a lot of poor people in cities still tend to be black. Not all, certainly, but a lot.
Also, there are plenty of white racists still around, and they hate Obama simply because he's black. So anytime something bad happens, they want to blame him. And of course the republican party is only too happy to service that band wagon! While the media is busy turning anything it can into armageddon just to get people's attention, so they can sell ads.
The things that have gotten worse since 2000 are not racism (because that's been here all along), it's poverty, greed, and malfeasance. Poverty incites the poor to petty crime, while greed wants to make it go away as fast as possible, by any means necessary, to hide it's own ugly effect on society. Meanwhile, malfeasance has everyone who's supposed to be controlling poverty and greed, exacerbating it, instead. So a sort of perfect storm is brewing between the haves, the have nots, and the immoral idiots in the government and the media who are supposed to be trying to help us resolve these things, but are exacerbating it, instead.
And the cops are caught right in the middle of it all.
(Connie presents the issues between police and minorities as the struggle between God and Satan)
Barbarian observes:
Neither the police nor minorities are entirely good or entirely evil.
The answer isn't striking back at police nor is it cracking down on the minority community; it's in building confidence and trust in each other. A slow process, but the only one that will work.
(Note how the white liberal racist has implied that people of color are inherently criminal).
See above, Connie. I restored the part of my post that you deleted, in red. Because you worship the state instead of God, you think lying is just another tactic. The moral cesspool you live in is your own spew.
The answer is not to portray the conflict between police and citizens as the struggle between good and evil. Three men died needlessly in this most recent episode, because of people like you. The fool who assassinated those two police officers saw the world with your eyes, Connie.
Evil makes more evil. Violence makes more violence. The answer is not to hate, but to stop hating. You're so far gone that you can't get there now.
Barbarian observes:
Neither the police nor minorities are entirely good or entirely evil.
The answer isn't striking back at police nor is it cracking down on the minority community; it's in building confidence and trust in each other. A slow process, but the only one that will work.
(Note how the white liberal racist has implied that people of color are inherently criminal).
See above, Connie. I restored the part of my post that you deleted, in red. Because you worship the state instead of God, you think lying is just another tactic. The moral cesspool you live in is your own spew.
The answer is not to portray the conflict between police and citizens as the struggle between good and evil. Three men died needlessly in this most recent episode, because of people like you. The fool who assassinated those two police officers saw the world with your eyes, Connie.
Evil makes more evil. Violence makes more violence. The answer is not to hate, but to stop hating. You're so far gone that you can't get there now.
..."The poor we shall always have with us"....
Poverty does not incite to petty crime. A lack of a moral compass allows petty crime.
I'd add a corollary "Greed we shall always have with us".
Greed is also a reflection of a lack of a moral compass.
But, shall we wring our hands and play the victim?
I think not!
Criminal behavior is a vicious downward spiral which eventually destroys a society.
PureX
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Of course it does. When people can't get what they want and need by acceptable economic methods, they turn to unacceptable economic methods. That's been true since the dawn of time. And we call those unacceptable economic methods, "crime".
Greed increases when the fear of being or becoming poor increases. And when being poor becomes an unbearable prospect. And as greed increases, so does crime.
So both poverty and greed generate criminality. The difference is that poor criminals generally turn to petty and violent crime, and end up in the cemetery or the prison. While rich criminals turn to sophisticated and 'legalized' crimes that they can buy their way out of if caught, or get away with all together.
Poor criminals get punished. Rich criminals get rewarded.
Poor criminals cost society millions. Rich criminals cost society billions.
Poor criminals tent to kill each other. Rich criminals have other people kill and die for them; while they collect the profits.
Well, we can certainly agree on that.
Where we disagree, usually, is on which is the greater criminal, and on which type of criminal does the greater harm.
zoo22
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Right. But it's more like the Aryan Brotherhood than the kkk (and they're different). The guy was a member of a black prison gang called The Black Guerrilla Family, like The Aryan Brotherhood, La Nuestra Familia, Mexican Mafia, Texas Syndicate. We breed these gangs in our prisons, and in poor segregated neighborhoods. They're ebola. To any of them, the police are just another rival gang. This guy wasn't killing white people; he was killing cops.
Have you heard anyone defending him?
Blaming it all on liberals just seems pointless to me. It's all of our problem, and there's a slew of different things that are going on, from all directions. To me, blaming it all on the other guy is not only what keeps us from repairing problems, but ultimately why the problems just continue to get worse.