Gunman executes 2 NYPD cops as ‘revenge’ for Garner

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When Gabby Giffords was shot by a deranged lunatic, the very next morning at 7:00am Andrea Mitchell did a 5 minute segment on NBC's Today Show about how Sarah Palin and the Tea Party were to blame.

Just because Palin depicted Gifford with a target on her name. Which was way over the line, but hardly enough to make her an accessory.

I notice that when two police officers were shot, a few deranged right wingers were shouting that various people were to blame, because they had criticized unnecessary police violence.

Double standards; alive and well in the loony right.
 

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tetelestai

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I notice that when two police officers were shot, a few deranged right wingers were shouting that various people were to blame, because they had criticized unnecessary police violence.

If it was "unnecessary police violence", then why did you Liberals turn it into a race issue?

Why are the protestors carrying signs that say "Black Lives Matter" if it had to do with unnecessary police violence?
 

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I wonder if Connie has any idea how truly crazy he comes off when he's foaming at the mouth.

anyone who disagrees with you goofy liberals is "foaming at the mouth" or some other stupid, childish thing

why don't all you liberals move to the land you love best, Russia?

or Cuba

you should be happy there, as no criticism of government is allowed
 

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after weeks (months?) of hearing the cbc report on Eric Garner and Michael Brown as "unarmed black men", it was refreshing yesterday to hear them reporting this story using the words "Eric Garner and Michael Brown, two black men involved in confrontations with police"

a few more attacks like brinsley's and the cbc might even get around to reporting that brown and garner were resisting arrest and struggling with officers before their deaths




has anybody noticed this shift in the liberal press in the states?
 

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Which makes you a moron and part of the problem.

The only proper response from you would be to say that the dude probably deserved it and thankfulness toward the officer tasked with protecting you.

I'll be sure to file that in the folder called 'unsubstantiated opinions I don't care about'. Thanks for your feedback.
 

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I'll be sure to file that in the folder called 'unsubstantiated opinions I don't care about'. Thanks for your feedback.

So you'll stick with race-baiting and forego a rational discussion.

I wonder if anybody else can answer the question sensibly: You hear a report about a guy being shot dead by a police officer. Given only those details, what is your response?
 

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So you'll stick with race-baiting and forego a rational discussion.

I wonder if anybody else can answer the question sensibly: You hear a report about a guy being shot dead by a police officer. Given only those details, what is your response?

No response....Not enough information given to formulate a rational opinion much less a response. :plain:
 

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No response....Not enough information given to formulate a rational opinion much less a response. :plain:
I think that even those scant details should draw an emotional response from just about everybody -- especially given recent events.

Would you presume the officer acted in a justifiable manner or not?
 

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I think that even those scant details should draw an emotional response from just about everybody -- especially given recent events.

Would you presume the officer acted in a justifiable manner or not?

In this current environment, my emotional response would be an assumption that a white cop shot a black man and that white cop won't get indicted and there will be protests. :plain:

My initial reaction when I hear about police shootings is still that the cop was probably justified, but I'm not completely denying the possibility of an imbalance in how cops treat black men.
 

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And Obama said that was "an understandable reaction" and also followed that comment up with,"A deep distrust exists between law enforcement and communities of color. Some of this is the result of the legacy of racial discrimination in this country." If that is not stirring up racial strife than I don't know what is.
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There is a distrust between some communities and the police.
I think there is a legacy of racial discrimination.
Some statistics would show that blacks do get different treatment than whites.

In general, I don't have a problem with Obama or Holder or anyone else talk about these things. If they think a real problem exists then they should talk about it and seek resolutions. However, from what I've seen I think you could make the case that Obama and Holder have been a bit too one-sided in their approaches to these particular incidents. :idunno:

Obama and Holder, being black, could probably use their positions as a strongly bully pulpit to the black communities on these issues. Although, chances are they'd just start to be hated by the black communities for betraying their cause and not being 'black enough'. :plain:

He never has even eluded that the reason that blacks are seeing more attention from law enforcement is because the black community is committing more crime.
I'm not sure what you mean by 'attention'.

He is supposed to be a leader and this is his rhetoric? His Atty Gen is supposed to be the chief law enforcement officer and his commentary did not condemn the unlawful acts of Mr. Brown instead he said that he was putting together a federal civil rights case? :hammer: When will the black community take any responsibility for their own failings? I know, I know...just don't talk about it, deny that it exists and keep stirring that racial tension. You call that leadership? Absolutely pathetic!
I can't comment on the Holder stuff because I'm not sure about the timing of the investigations and his comments, but I do agree some with your criticism about not taking any responsibility. At least in these cases. I think there could be some legitimate concerns about law enforcement against blacks but Brown and Garner aren't the best poster children for it.
 

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Here we go again. :sigh:

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...cle_d45db16a-7422-5307-b81d-b45dbdc896ba.html


A Berkeley police officer fired at least three shots at a suspect who pulled a gun on him, the St. Louis County Police chief said at a Wednesday morning news conference.

Police Chief Jon Belmar said the officer was doing a business check at a Mobil on the run station about 11:15 p.m. Tuesday when the shooting happened.

The officer saw two people on the parking lot in the 6800 block of North Hanley Road and began talking with them.

Belmar said one of the people approached the driver's side of the vehicle.

One of the individuals "produced a pistol with his arm straight out, pointing it straight at the officer kind of from across the hood," Belmar said.

At that point, the chief said, the officer got his service revolver "and fired what we think is three shots."

The officer, who is 34 and white, is a 6-year veteran of the department, Belmar said. He was placed on investigative leave, which is standard.

Belmar said one round struck the suspect, an 18-year-old black male, and one struck a tire of the police car. Police said they did not immediately know where the third round went.

From the videotape released by St. Louis County Police and Belmar's description, the officer was near the front driver's side of the vehicle and the suspect was on the other side, near the car's headlights, when the shooting occurred.

As the officer points his gun, he is backing away and loses his balance, Belmar said. As he fell, he dropped his flashlight and fired off at least three shots.

The suspect was pronounced dead at the scene by EMS units. Berkeley police called the county's crimes against persons unit at 11:45 p.m., and they arrived at the scene at 12:15 a.m., Belmar said.

The body, which was covered and concealed from the crowd by a partition, was removed from the scene at 1:40 a.m., Belmar said.

He also said the 9 mm gun found on the suspect had five rounds in the chamber and one round in the magazine. He also said the gun's serial number had been filed off.

Belmar declined to release his name at the news conference but said he had a criminal record, with charges including three assaults, armed robbery, armed criminal action and multiple uses of weapons since he was 17.

A woman at the scene overnight, Toni Martin, said it was her son, Antonio Martin, 18.

Police said they did not know who the second person was, but they called him a "person of interest" and asked for the public's help to find him.

They also said two bystanders on the Mobil parking lot were witnesses.

Belmar said he notified St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Bob McCulloch of the shooting, and McCulloch assigned a prosecutor to the case.

Between 200 and 300 protesters gathered at the scene after the shooting, and conflicts broke out between officers and protesters, Belmar said.

Four people were arrested for assaulting officers, and at least one officer was injured when he tried to get away from some sort of firework device set off on the parking lot, Belmar said.

Protesters also threw some bricks at officers, Belmar said. Police used pepper spray on the crowd but did not use any tear gas, the chief said.

He also said several police cars were damaged, and some protesters brought bags of rocks to the scene.

As to suggestions that the officer should have used a Taser instead of his gun, Belmar said: "Frankly that's unreasonable." The officer also had a body camera issued to him at the start of his shift, but he was not wearing it. The car's dash-camera was not activated.

The suspect could have complied with the officer, but "bad choices were made" by him instead, Belmar said.

The officer was responding to a call for a larceny, but Belmar could not say if it was from the gas station or whether it involved the suspect and the second man.

Belmar said the officer had one prior use of force incident in 2011 or 2012 that involved a struggle over the officer's gun.
 

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And Obama said that (rioting in ferguson) was "an understandable reaction"




like saying that my beagle climbing on the table and eating a pound of sliced ham is "understandable" :doh:

of course, if you believe that blacks are unruly children who shouldn't be held accountable for their actions and who can't be expected to know the difference between right and wrong....



couldn't find the pic i wanted of bammy (that wouldn't get me a "vacation" :) ), but i ran across this apt description of our fearless leader: "a skid mark in society's collective underwear"
 
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