All right.....Lumpy masks for all males and June Cleaver masks for all females.
Dukes of Hazzard Dropped by TV Land
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All right.....Lumpy masks for all males and June Cleaver masks for all females.
SaulToPaul 2
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I don't. IMO, it's a stupid show. Just as the network, based on the reason they are censoring it, is a stupid network.
I find it amazing that anyone would whine about a TV show when they can simply change the channel.
SaulToPaul 2
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I think a lot of those classic shows were regional, where mostly southerners related to them.
Andy "Griffin"
Gomer Pyle
Beverly Hillbillies
Petticoat Junction
Dukes of Hazzard
:chuckle: I remember all of those shows, but was only interested in watching "Beverly Hillbillies". One of my faves was "Gunsmoke". I use to watch it with my dad.
PureX
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And yet, were there a sitcom starring "Jesus", making silly jokes about his life and times and family and followers, I suspect your tune would change rather quickly, as would that of many others on this thread. We're all thick skinned and worldly until it's our sacred calfs that are being slaughtered. And frankly, there are some subjects that should remain beyond the reach of such cheap humor, I think.
PureX
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It Turns Out White Support For Confederate Flag Really IS About Racism, Not Heritage LINK
AUTHOR: JOHN PRAGER
Confederate flag fetishists repeatedly bellow that support for their beloved hate symbol is entirely about their “heritage” and “history,” but a poll analysis conducted by the Washington Post reveals their claims to be as valid as the concept of “legitimate rape.”
Since white supremacist terrorist Dylann Roof gunned down nine people in an historic black South Carolina church with the goal of igniting a new civil war, a debate has raged over the removal of the Confederate flag from the Statehouse. Even Republican Governor Nikki Haley, who once supported the flag’s presence, called for its removal as the public outcry against the flag raged.
“It’s a symbol of family and my ancestors who defended the state from invasion. It was about standing up to a central government,” said Chris Sullivan, a member of the Sons of the Confederacy in defense of the flag. “The things that our ancestors fought for were not novel and they really are the same issues we have today.”
Yes, the flag is a symbol of those who “defended” against an “invasion” after Southern states collectively committed treason. The flag was created by people who rose up to kill their countrymen over their belief that black people are inferior — just ask Confederate “Vice President” Alexander Stephens:
The Post’s data comes from a survey of 522 white people in Georgia conducted by the Survey Research Laboratory at Georgia State University in 2004:
Knowledge about Southern history was measured with two questions:
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Of whites who were able to name at least two Civil War battles and correctly name General Sherman, only 34 percent preferred the flag that featured the hate symbol. Of those who answered zero questions correctly, support rose to 73 percent.
“White supporters of the Confederate battle emblem are distinguished not by their knowledge of Southern history but rather their ignorance of it,” the Post says.
The Post also found that whites with negative attitude toward black people are more likely to support the symbol of slavery and oppression. Whites who say they would object if their child dated someone of a different race are a whopping 20 percentage points more likely to support the flag than whites who don’t give a f*ck.
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“Similarly, among whites who do not believe that blacks are discriminated against in the labor market, support for the Confederate flag is 30 percentage points higher than it is among those whites who believe there is continuing racial discrimination.”
The post found no meaningful relationship between support for the Confederate battle flag and a deep kinship with other southerners. In fact, the only meaningful relationships were between support and racism and ignorance.
Imagine that.
Yes, it is about “heritage” — a heritage of hatred and oppression. The flag represents the “heritage” of people like the Ku Klux Klan, who plan to rally in support of the flag later this month. As we all know, the KKK isn’t the least bit racist. The cross burning they promise to top off their “whites only” flag rally is simply a celebration of the group’s “history” (or something). Aren’t words fun?
AUTHOR: JOHN PRAGER
Confederate flag fetishists repeatedly bellow that support for their beloved hate symbol is entirely about their “heritage” and “history,” but a poll analysis conducted by the Washington Post reveals their claims to be as valid as the concept of “legitimate rape.”
Since white supremacist terrorist Dylann Roof gunned down nine people in an historic black South Carolina church with the goal of igniting a new civil war, a debate has raged over the removal of the Confederate flag from the Statehouse. Even Republican Governor Nikki Haley, who once supported the flag’s presence, called for its removal as the public outcry against the flag raged.
“It’s a symbol of family and my ancestors who defended the state from invasion. It was about standing up to a central government,” said Chris Sullivan, a member of the Sons of the Confederacy in defense of the flag. “The things that our ancestors fought for were not novel and they really are the same issues we have today.”
Yes, the flag is a symbol of those who “defended” against an “invasion” after Southern states collectively committed treason. The flag was created by people who rose up to kill their countrymen over their belief that black people are inferior — just ask Confederate “Vice President” Alexander Stephens:
“Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth. This truth has been slow in the process of its development, like all other truths in the various departments of science.”
Unsurprisingly, the Washington Post found that not only is support of the flag rooted in racism, but that flag fetishists don’t quite understand history:
This debate is not new, nor limited to South Carolina. Much of the discussion revolves around the question of whether the flag represents “heritage or hatred” (see, for example, here, here, and here). Drawing on rare survey data on this subject, we can shed light on this question. We find that white Southerners who support the Confederate flag are actually less knowledgeable about Southern history; no stronger in their attachments to fellow Southerners (after racial attitudes are taken into account); less tolerant of interracial dating; and more likely to deny that blacks are discriminated against in the labor market.
The Post’s data comes from a survey of 522 white people in Georgia conducted by the Survey Research Laboratory at Georgia State University in 2004:
“This survey was designed to assess opinions about three different potential state flags that were being considered at the time: one of these flags prominently featured the Confederate battle emblem.”
Knowledge about Southern history was measured with two questions:
“Whether the respondent could correctly identify the famous Union general, William Tecumseh Sherman, and the number of Civil War battles the respondent could name.”
In their analysis, the Post discovered that whites who are more knowledgeable about Southern history are actually less likely to support the Confederate flag. As ignorance increases, so does support for the flag featuring the Confederate battle emblem:
Piston-Strother-MC-sub-Southern-knowledge-graphic (1)
Of whites who were able to name at least two Civil War battles and correctly name General Sherman, only 34 percent preferred the flag that featured the hate symbol. Of those who answered zero questions correctly, support rose to 73 percent.
“White supporters of the Confederate battle emblem are distinguished not by their knowledge of Southern history but rather their ignorance of it,” the Post says.
The Post also found that whites with negative attitude toward black people are more likely to support the symbol of slavery and oppression. Whites who say they would object if their child dated someone of a different race are a whopping 20 percentage points more likely to support the flag than whites who don’t give a f*ck.
Piston-Strother-MC-sub-Racial-intolerance-graphic
“Similarly, among whites who do not believe that blacks are discriminated against in the labor market, support for the Confederate flag is 30 percentage points higher than it is among those whites who believe there is continuing racial discrimination.”
The post found no meaningful relationship between support for the Confederate battle flag and a deep kinship with other southerners. In fact, the only meaningful relationships were between support and racism and ignorance.
Imagine that.
Yes, it is about “heritage” — a heritage of hatred and oppression. The flag represents the “heritage” of people like the Ku Klux Klan, who plan to rally in support of the flag later this month. As we all know, the KKK isn’t the least bit racist. The cross burning they promise to top off their “whites only” flag rally is simply a celebration of the group’s “history” (or something). Aren’t words fun?
We believe you defend "wimpism," as your one of the biggest spineless, w/o vertebrae, cry baby wimps on TOL. Even you admit it.
Like the Pittsburgh Pirates flag/emblem, wimp?
A Liberal who doesn't like the American Flag.
Ok.
If you owned a television network, and a television series did this kind of stuff, then you could choose not to air that television show.
You're free to fly a Nazi flag, a Confederate flag, join the KKK, join the Black Panthers, join a White Supremacist group, etc. So is everyone else in this country.
The people at TV Land find the Confederate flag offensive, and have decided not to show the Dukes.
Isn't that what freedom is all about?
Many blacks find Evolution as racist because it teaches that humans evolved from black skin to white skin.
God hates divorce.
It's good to hate bad things.
However, the Confederate flag symbolizes the hate of human beings because of the color of their skin. That's not good.
Don't know where you're getting that from
I have no idea what you're talking about?
Klink was a Jew
Shultz was a Jew
Major Hochstetter was a Jew
General Burkhalter was a Jew
LeBeau was a Jew
If Bo Duke, Luke Duke, Daisy Duke, Uncle Jesse, and Boss Hogg would have been black, then just maybe people wouldn't be so upset.
IOW, if all those Jews could be cast as Nazi's, then why couldn't blacks be cast as Rebel's?
Hugh Beaumont had a Masters degree in Theology and was licensed to preach by the Methodist Church.
I don't know for certain, but rumor has it that Lumpy may be the reason for the Methodist Weight Management Institute in Dallas
Yep it's offensive.
Same for the Vikings and Raiders
I find the Washington Wizards logo offensive
I find the Duke Blue Devils logo offensive and the Wake Forest Demon Deacons offensive.
What's your point?
PureX
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Anyone could be cast as anything because it's all make-believe. But that's not the point. The point is that some historical events carry great significance to a lot of people, and those people tend to get offended when those events are treated so casually and foolishly just to sell some TV advertising.
PureX
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I disagree that they are as harmless as you allow. I think the stereotypes you note reinforce the ignorance that feeds on them.
Displaying some black kid endlessly repeating "dyn-o mite" like some black-faced 'Howdy-Doody' only serves to support the racist's belief that this is how black kids really think and act. Same goes for the bias behind all these silly stereotypes, from Archie Bunker to George Jefferson to Ellie May and Jethro.
The Berean
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This is what television and film have done historically. It is rare that a TV show will go against this. One TV series that tired to do this was a show called Roc starting Charles S. Dutton. It started out a straight sitcom about a married black garbage man living in Baltimore. But it started to delve into real contemporary social issues like gang violence, drugs, etc. The show was really intense and it showed a no-holds barred view of contemporary life in urban America. The show only lasted three seasons, not surprising given its content. A great show nevertheless.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roc_(TV_series)
Making a mountain out of a molehill.