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Your answer is thoroughly not the answer to the question I asked.

Please answer the question I asked, and not the question that I did not ask that has nothing to do with what I did ask, and not try avoid my question.

GT:

Has the word, "church," always referred to the Body of Christ? Or has it, in the past, referred to something else?
A. Yes
B. No
C. I don't know

I have explained it to you many times. Now if you want me to take what you say seriously, then you need to go back and respond to what I took my time to tell you and say more than just NO YOU ARE NOT ANSWERING IRRELEVANT.
 

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If Gods truth is a woman, that would explain the weird attitude that I get from her.

You show that you are vile. I will not tell you if I am a man or a woman, but in defense of God's Truth, I will rebuke you with these scriptures where God told men to listen to women:

Genesis 21:12 God said to Abraham, "Listen to whatever Sarah tells you".

Matthew 27:19 While Pilate was sitting on the judge's seat, his wife sent him this message: "Don't have anything to do with that innocent man, for I have suffered a great deal today in a dream because of him."

Micah 6:4 For I brought you up from the land of Egypt, I redeemed you from the house of bondage; And I sent before you Moses, Aaron, and Miriam.

Judges 4:4 Now Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lappidoth, was judging Israel at that time.

I only needed one scripture to rebuke you, but I gave you more so you can take more time to study and repent.
 

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You show that you are vile. I will not tell you if I am a man or a woman, but in defense of God's Truth, I will rebuke you with these scriptures where God told men to listen to women:

Genesis 21:12 God said to Abraham, "Listen to whatever Sarah tells you".

Matthew 27:19 While Pilate was sitting on the judge's seat, his wife sent him this message: "Don't have anything to do with that innocent man, for I have suffered a great deal today in a dream because of him."

Micah 6:4 For I brought you up from the land of Egypt, I redeemed you from the house of bondage; And I sent before you Moses, Aaron, and Miriam.

Judges 4:4 Now Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lappidoth, was judging Israel at that time.

I only needed one scripture to rebuke you, but I gave you more so you can take more time to study and repent.

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lol You must be a woman, no man would reply like that. But I will show you what Jesus said about the people in the old testament.

[Jhn 10:8-9
8 "All who [ever] came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them. 9 "I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.

And for women in the new testament. If you are a woman, your committing a major sin. No truth can come from a sin.

[1Ti 2:11-12
11 Let a woman learn in silence with all submission.
12 And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.
 

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I have explained it to you many times. Now if you want me to take what you say seriously, then you need to go back and respond to what I took my time to tell you and say more than just NO YOU ARE NOT ANSWERING IRRELEVANT.

I don't want an "explanation." I just want a "yes," "no," or "I don't know," answer from you.

Has the word Church always referred to the Body of Christ? Or could it have referred to something else in the past?
A. Yes
B. No
C. I don't know
 

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You show that you are vile. I will not tell you if I am a man or a woman, but in defense of God's Truth, I will rebuke you with these scriptures where God told men to listen to women:

Genesis 21:12 God said to Abraham, "Listen to whatever Sarah tells you".

Matthew 27:19 While Pilate was sitting on the judge's seat, his wife sent him this message: "Don't have anything to do with that innocent man, for I have suffered a great deal today in a dream because of him."

Micah 6:4 For I brought you up from the land of Egypt, I redeemed you from the house of bondage; And I sent before you Moses, Aaron, and Miriam.

Judges 4:4 Now Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lappidoth, was judging Israel at that time.

I only needed one scripture to rebuke you, but I gave you more so you can take more time to study and repent.
So, basically you're confirming that you're a woman. Cool.

What about:

I desire therefore that the men pray everywhere, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting;in like manner also, that the women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with propriety and moderation, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or costly clothing,but, which is proper for women professing godliness, with good works.Let a woman learn in silence with all submission.And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.For Adam was formed first, then Eve.And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression.Nevertheless she will be saved in childbearing if they continue in faith, love, and holiness, with self-control. - 1 Timothy 2:8-15 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1Timothy2:8-15&version=NKJV
 

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I am done with you, Squeaky. You thought you could nullify God's word with other scriptures.

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Jesus nullified the old testament. Jesus changed the definition of justice, He made the old covenant obsolete, He changed the law, He changed the commandments. Of course if you had the truth you would have known that.

Heb 7:12
12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law.
(NKJ)

Heb 7:18
18 For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness,
(NKJ)

Heb 8:13
13 In that He says, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
(NKJ)
 

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I don't want an "explanation." I just want a "yes," "no," or "I don't know," answer from you.

Has the word Church always referred to the Body of Christ? Or could it have referred to something else in the past?
A. Yes
B. No
C. I don't know

Go respond first to what I said to you, even if you think it is irrelevant.
 

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So, basically you're confirming that you're a woman. Cool.

What about:

I desire therefore that the men pray everywhere, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting;in like manner also, that the women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with propriety and moderation, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or costly clothing,but, which is proper for women professing godliness, with good works.Let a woman learn in silence with all submission.And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.For Adam was formed first, then Eve.And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression.Nevertheless she will be saved in childbearing if they continue in faith, love, and holiness, with self-control. - 1 Timothy 2:8-15 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1Timothy2:8-15&version=NKJV

I give scriptures that say men were to listen to women and you think that proves that I am one. Now that shows where your heart is.

I could explain the other scriptures to you that you posted and ask about, but what is the point when you don't accept the scriptures where men should listen to women.
 

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Jesus nullified the old testament. Jesus changed the definition of justice, He made the old covenant obsolete, He changed the law, He changed the commandments. Of course if you had the truth you would have known that.

Heb 7:12
12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law.
(NKJ)

Heb 7:18
18 For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness,
(NKJ)

Heb 8:13
13 In that He says, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
(NKJ)

Squeaky, if you want me to debate you, then stop your "I said" habit.

Then I will reply.
 

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Squeaky, if you want me to debate you, then stop your "I said" habit.

Then I will reply.

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lol I don't even want to talk to you. If you cant be honest about what sex you are. A simple question. Then I couldn't believe anything else you would say. Your an insult to the Spirit of grace. You cant even be a Christian if you cant speak the truth.

[Eph 4:25
25 Therefore, putting away lying, "[Let] each one [of you] speak truth with his neighbor," for we are members of one another.
 

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God's Truth - Asked and Answered Yet Refusing to be Corrected

God's Truth - Asked and Answered Yet Refusing to be Corrected

When we debated, I asked you to explain how they were the same. I even tried to help you to give an answer, but all you would say was no to my suggestions. You would only say they were the same "essence". I asked you what that essence was but you could not answer.
All evidence to the contrary, of course. A small sampling:
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...Holy-Trinity&p=3690979&viewfull=1#post3690979
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...Holy-Trinity&p=3692952&viewfull=1#post3692952
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...Holy-Trinity&p=3693060&viewfull=1#post3693060
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...Holy-Trinity&p=3693157&viewfull=1#post3693157
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...Holy-Trinity&p=3694515&viewfull=1#post3694515
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...Holy-Trinity&p=3697139&viewfull=1#post3697139
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...Holy-Trinity&p=3700529&viewfull=1#post3700529

God the Father is Spirit, He is invisible. Jesus Christ is God the Father, His Spirit, with a body. The Holy Spirit is that Spirit that goes forth everywhere and lives inside the saved.

From your post...
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...Holy-Trinity&p=3697917&viewfull=1#post3697917
- God lives in unapproachable light. He made Himself a body, a Spiritual body, of the Man Jesus Christ. He is Jesus, but not yet known as Jesus, not until he came in the flesh. He is the First over all creation. He has the resurrected Spiritual body, the body we receive lastly. Jesus is the First and the Last.​


- God the Father lives in unapproachable light. Jesus existed with God before coming to earth; He existed in the Spiritual body of the Man Jesus. Jesus in the flesh is God come as a Son of Man, a Son of God.​


- Jesus was in heaven with the Spiritual body of the Man Jesus. Jesus had this body First. We receive the Spiritual body last, at the resurrection. We shall be made like him.


My response to these heretical views:
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...Holy-Trinity&p=3698458&viewfull=1#post3698458

Your reliance upon hopscotching among various bible translations has been your undoing:
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...Holy-Trinity&p=3703608&viewfull=1#post3703608

I have participated in many debates, but you take the lead in being the champion of crying sour grapes; that you were not met in each and every challenge you attempted with a thorough response. Your views are a mixture of Mormonism, Oneness, Modalism, and Monarchianism.

Get yourself into a local assembly of the visible vestige of the Lord's Bride and receive proper instruction. You are a shining example of what comes from the Lone Ranger mentality, ignorant of how the church has answered the many heresies that have arisen over the centuries. Our minds are idol factories. You have created intellectual idols and have went off worshiping them at the peril of your immortal soul. When was the last time you spoke with your Pastor about your odd views? What was his counsel?

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All evidence to the contrary, of course. A small sampling:
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...Holy-Trinity&p=3690979&viewfull=1#post3690979
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...Holy-Trinity&p=3692952&viewfull=1#post3692952
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...Holy-Trinity&p=3693060&viewfull=1#post3693060
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...Holy-Trinity&p=3693157&viewfull=1#post3693157
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...Holy-Trinity&p=3694515&viewfull=1#post3694515
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...Holy-Trinity&p=3697139&viewfull=1#post3697139
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...Holy-Trinity&p=3700529&viewfull=1#post3700529



From your post...
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...Holy-Trinity&p=3697917&viewfull=1#post3697917
- God lives in unapproachable light. He made Himself a body, a Spiritual body, of the Man Jesus Christ. He is Jesus, but not yet known as Jesus, not until he came in the flesh. He is the First over all creation. He has the resurrected Spiritual body, the body we receive lastly. Jesus is the First and the Last.​


- God the Father lives in unapproachable light. Jesus existed with God before coming to earth; He existed in the Spiritual body of the Man Jesus. Jesus in the flesh is God come as a Son of Man, a Son of God.​


- Jesus was in heaven with the Spiritual body of the Man Jesus. Jesus had this body First. We receive the Spiritual body last, at the resurrection. We shall be made like him.


My response to these heretical views:
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...Holy-Trinity&p=3698458&viewfull=1#post3698458

Your reliance upon hopscotching among various bible translations has been your undoing:
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...Holy-Trinity&p=3703608&viewfull=1#post3703608

I have participated in many debates, but you take the lead in being the champion of crying sour grapes; that you were not met in each and every challenge you attempted with a thorough response. Your views are a mixture of Mormonism, Oneness, Modalism, and Monarchianism.

Get yourself into a local assembly of the visible vestige of the Lord's Bride and receive proper instruction. You are a shining example of what comes from the Lone Ranger mentality, ignorant of how the church has answered the many heresies that have arisen over the centuries. Our minds are idol factories. You have created intellectual idols and have went off worshiping them at the peril of your immortal soul. When was the last time you spoke with your Pastor about your odd views? What was his counsel?

AMR

I will prove you are wrong about everything you say about me, and more importantly, what you say about God.

Tell me and all of us right now what is God's essence.
 

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I will prove you are wrong about everything you say about me, and more importantly, what you say about God.

Tell me and all of us right now what is God's essence.
Asked and answered, "right now":

http://theologyonline.com/showthread.php?p=5108162#post5108162

Sooner or later you will have to actually click on links provided rather than stubbornly insist everyone comply with your own peculiarities. :AMR:

Naturally, you are deflecting from the rest of the content in my post dealing with your heretical views of Jesus Christ and His presumed existence in a body before the Incarnation.

You also ignore my question concerning your church participation and your Pastor's counsel concerning your bizarre views.

No matter how much you strive to do so, you do not get to set the terms and conditions in a discussion. Rather they are set by the environment to which the discussion takes place and by the normal "Queensberry Rules" of intellectual debate. Per the same, either retract your complaint that you have not been answered by me, for the evidence speaks to the contrary, or just cease to call me out knowing you do so in error.

Can you prove I have not answered your question about the meaning of essence as you have claimed? You cannot. The only conclusion is one of the following:
1. You have failed to actually read the numerous answers I have provided
2. You are bearing false witness (you are a liar), contrary to the ninth commandment

Choose one or be silent when it comes to dragging me into your woeful and lachrymose complaints about your "mistreatment".

AMR
 

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Asked and answered, "right now":

http://theologyonline.com/showthread.php?p=5108162#post5108162

Sooner or later you will have to actually click on links provided rather than stubbornly insist everyone comply with your own peculiarities. :AMR:

Naturally, you are deflecting from the rest of the content in my post dealing with your heretical views of Jesus Christ and His presumed existence in a body before the Incarnation.

You also ignore my question concerning your church participation and your Pastor's counsel concerning your bizarre views.

No matter how much you strive to do so, you do not get to set the terms and conditions in a discussion. Rather they are set by the environment to which the discussion takes place and by the normal "Queensberry Rules" of intellectual debate. Per the same, either retract your complaint that you have not been answered by me, for the evidence speaks to the contrary, or just cease to call me out knowing you do so in error.

Can you prove I have not answered your question about the meaning of essence as you have claimed? You cannot. The only conclusion is one of the following:
1. You have failed to actually read the numerous answers I have provided
2. You are bearing false witness (you are a liar), contrary to the ninth commandment

Choose one or be silent when it comes to dragging me into your woeful and lachrymose complaints about your "mistreatment".

AMR

Just tell us what essence God is.

You cannot say 'God' is God's essence.

Tell us right here.

No links to a lot of writing.

Unbelievable how you don't just give an answer.

Don't answer then, but then stop following me around saying false things about me concerning our one on one debate.

As for your comment and demand about the Queensberry Rules---wrong sport. I am not boxing; I am carrying a Sword.
 

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Just tell us what essence God is.

You cannot say 'God' is God's essence.

Tell us right here.

No links to a lot of writing.

Unbelievable how you don't just give an answer.

Don't answer then, but then stop following me around saying false things about me concerning our one on one debate.

As for your comment and demand about the Queensberry Rules---wrong sport. I am not boxing; I am carrying a Sword.

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Look I have seen your stupid arguments about the essence of God before. Don't bring your carnally intellectual stupid arguments on my thread. Your an intellectual idiot. essence isn't even in the bible.
You haven't even learned the basics of Christianity yet. There is a God and what He says is law. Now lets find out what He says.

INTELLECTUAL CAMOUFLAGE
1 Cor 2:14
14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1 Cor 3:18-20
18 Let no one deceive himself. If anyone among you seems to be wise in this age, let him become a fool that he may become wise.
19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, "He catches the wise in their own craftiness";
20 and again, "The Lord knows the thoughts of the wise, that they are futile."
1 Cor 5:7-8
7 Therefore purge out the old leaven, that you may be a new lump, since you truly are unleavened. For indeed Christ, our Passover, was sacrificed for us.
8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
1 Cor 1:26-29
26 For you see your calling, brethren, that not many wise according to the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called.
27 But God has chosen the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to put to shame the things which are mighty;
28 and the base things of the world and the things which are despised God has chosen, and the things which are not, to bring to nothing the things that are,
29 that no flesh should glory in His presence.
1 Cor 2:14
14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1 Cor 3:18-20
18 Let no one deceive himself. If anyone among you seems to be wise in this age, let him become a fool that he may become wise.
19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, "He catches the wise in their own craftiness";
20 and again, "The Lord knows the thoughts of the wise, that they are futile."
1 Cor 5:7-8
7 Therefore purge out the old leaven, that you may be a new lump, since you truly are unleavened. For indeed Christ, our Passover, was sacrificed for us.
8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
1 Cor 1:26-29
26 For you see your calling, brethren, that not many wise according to the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called.
27 But God has chosen the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to put to shame the things which are mighty;
28 and the base things of the world and the things which are despised God has chosen, and the things which are not, to bring to nothing the things that are,
29 that no flesh should glory in His presence.
2 Cor 10:12
12 For we dare not class ourselves or compare ourselves with those who commend themselves. But they, measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise.
2 Cor 11:3
3 But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
Rom 12:16
16 Be of the same mind toward one another. Do not set your mind on high things, but associate with the humble. Do not be wise in your own opinion.
1 Cor 4:6
6 Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes, that you may learn in us not to think beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up on behalf of one against the other.
Rev 22:18-19
18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book;
19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
(NKJ)
XXX Intellectual camouflage is theology. Theology is spiritual theory. And theory is guessing. That is what is done in the milk understanding. In the milk is when one reads and believes everything in the new testament. They just keep putting it in their conscience(book of beliefs). Until they find the Holy Spirit in them. It is also when they come up with theology. But when they find the Holy Spirit bringing to remembrance the verses. This is the time they should learn from the Holy Spirit the only guaranteed teacher in the whole bible. And the Holy Spirit will lead them into purging their minds of carnality and emotions.


Phil 3:8
8 Yet indeed I also count all things loss for the excellence of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them as rubbish, that I may gain Christ
(NKJ)
 

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Just tell us what essence God is.

You cannot say 'God' is God's essence.

Tell us right here.

Done:
http://theologyonline.com/showthread.php?p=5108162#post5108162

No links to a lot of writing.

Maybe you have trouble reading...

No matter how much you strive to do so, you do not get to set the terms and conditions in a discussion. Rather they are set by the environment to which the discussion takes place and by the normal "Queensberry Rules" of intellectual debate.

:idunno:

AMR
 
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