No, I don't think God decieves, but I'm not sure why He sends delusion to those who already have rejected Him.
Thess. 2:12 “God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false”
No, I don't think God decieves, but I'm not sure why He sends delusion to those who already have rejected Him.
Thess. 2:12 “God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false”
No, I don't think God decieves, but I'm not sure why He sends delusion to those who already have rejected Him.
Thess. 2:12 “God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false”
It reminds me of God hardening an already hard heart.
2 Thess. 2:9-12 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Paul says the same here. These are people who already have a seared conscience...having rejected the truth beyond remedy.
1 Timothy 4:1-3
4 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
Personally, I believe these are folks like the Jehovah Witnesses. They are so deluded by the cult they have bought into that they can no longer see truth when it is presented to them. They are recruiting heavily in these latter days, and we'll see this more and more....a great falling away from the hope of the Gospel. Having heard, they reject it for their own chosen delusion.
I work with a JW who is a home carer and is one of the most compassionate, unassuming, empathic people I've met in my life.
artie said:Something a lot of so called "righteous Christians" could do well to emulate. A lot around here sound like Musterion's rancid signature...
No, I don't think God decieves, but I'm not sure why He sends delusion to those who already have rejected Him.
Thess. 2:12 “God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false”
I work with a JW who is a home carer and is one of the most compassionate, unassuming, empathic people I've met in my life. She doesn't celebrate Christmas as that's not part of the faith as I understand but she bought every person in the place presents with no want in return and is generous to a fault. She's highly regarded among staff and clients alike because of her caring attitude towards people. Something a lot of so called "righteous Christians" could do well to emulate. A lot around here sound like Musterion's rancid signature...
Someone is letting the Fosters do the posting again in the wee hours. The lonely, bitter early morning hours.
Someone is letting the Fosters do the posting again in the wee hours. The lonely, bitter early morning hours.
If that was in reference to me and a certain Australian brew then you are way off the mark as usual, don't touch the stuff. Still, a lovely example of loving Christian witness as ever from you Musty. Happy new year to you sir.
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And you can't see any of us in our own environment, can you, Artie?
You are so quick to judge. It's what the Witnesses preach that is wrong, and this forum is for the discussion of theology. We are dealing with those here who are quite set in their beliefs hoping to drag others into their ungodly religions.
We are here to stop them. If that's a problem for you, why are you here?
True, we should all play the holier than thou role you love, Artie. :chuckle:
What, you aren't quick to judge?
The JW I know doesn't "preach", doesn't browbeat with her belief. I didn't even know she was one until someone else pointed it out and she doesn't talk about it unless someone asks. You talk about "ungodly religions" which in effect means a belief that doesn't match with yours doesn't it? "Stop them"? How are you gonna do that?
It's no problem for me.
Pffft, I wouldn't even claim that mantle in a million years but then I'm not the one with such a putrid signature line as Musty anyway. Go chuckle at yourself some more if you want but at least get relevant...
She's not allowed to. Her leaders are very specific about who can preach what.
I don't go knocking on doors under orders from the leaders. I share the Gospel with those the Lord brings to my door...those who come with problems, with questions, and with doubts and fears.
Here on TOL, it's a different story. We are involved in a spiritual war. War isn't pretty, Artie.
You're certainly obsessed with a signature line. Why does it bother you so much? Touchy, are you?
And I'll chuckle whenever I darn well please. When I see clowns, I laugh. Too bad for you.
Pffft, I wouldn't even claim that mantle in a million years but then I'm not the one with such a putrid signature line as Musty anyway. Go chuckle at yourself some more if you want but at least get relevant...
There is not a thing wrong with Musty's signature. If it makes you uncomfortable, you'd best examine yourself.