Do Younger People Overspend On Homes Today?

Ktoyou

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I believe many younger families spend too much on their homes today. For example, one family with two grown kids spend over one million on the material cost and labor for their home, he is a contractor, home builder. Another with one school age child, four bedroom home. Another just getting stated with two small children spending over 500 grand on their home, alright they are both attorneys and will afford it, yet why such a home when so young?

In another case, a couple in there late forties and early fifties, with grown children, spend over 450 grand on a home.

None have the same amount, or close to it, in savings.

Consider this is in the deep south where a fine home costs less than 200 grand and where 250 grand would buy most any newer large home.

Consider their parents and grandparents having far more savings, yet only a few have homes where the real-estate value exceeds 250 grand, and the older, in most cases have a home valued no greater than 200 grand.

Could they pay for these homes in their lifetime with no inheritance, yes; however, they would most likely pay on a full 30 year montage.

My question is why do they need such big homes? Why not pay the banks less and trade up, like their parents did, who finally have their best home, which, in most cases, does not cost near as much?

Is ones home a status symbol, and if so, why is it more important to have this outward sign rather than the security of good savings?

I know very few older people in their 70s who have lived this way, on exception, a few who had millionaire parents as children, that would be near ten million in today's dollars.

How does this affect their spiritual life, and are they all condemned to that fleshy materialism? How many of today's church going 'good Christians' committed more to materialism than to higher principles?

I see such materialism in contradiction to ones spiritual life. What about the parents who are, or have lived a less material life, yet saved money for their kids to inherit. Are these parents fooling themselves about their fortunes, not spending?
 

glorydaz

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Hmmm... We must run in different circles. :chuckle: I'm not seeing too many who can even purchase a home, much less an expensive one. My older daughter and her husband just bought their first house, but it's an older fixer upper....$280,000 or thereabouts. The loan included leveling the house, paint, flooring, etc. Lots of families I know just rent. :idunno:
 

Tambora

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I don't know about house costs, but I have noticed a huge change in kids.

I was born in the early 50's.
We had none of todays tech toys, and very few store bought toys at all.
We played outside, with the dogs, with our bikes, made forts with hay bales in the barn, played ball, went fishing, etc.
And I do not EVER remember telling my parents, "I'm bored".

Now, about all I see kids doing is texting, computer games, x-box, etc.
And at one point of nearly every single day, you hear, "I'm bored".



As for adults, I have never seen as much time and money spent on "keeping up with the Jones". It is frightening how much peer pressure dictates their decisions.
 

aikido7

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I don't know many who can afford a home these days. Two of my former employers were pretty wealthy and own their own homes. But most people I call "average Joes" are just trying to get through life as best they can.
 

Eric h

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My question is why do they need such big homes? Why not pay the banks less and trade up, like their parents did, who finally have their best home, which, in most cases, does not cost near as much?

My parents bought their first and only house in the UK in 1966, for £4,000, today the same houses in that road are going for around £850,000. I think my dad was allowed to borrow about three times his annual wage at the time.

If my dad was doing the same job today, and allowed to borrow three times his wage, he would only be able to borrow about £150,000, so he would not be in a position to buy that same house today.

Houses seem to be treated more as investment opportunity rather than a home. Sadly, my children and grandchildren are going to struggle to get on the housing ladder through their own efforts.
 

bybee

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I don't know about house costs, but I have noticed a huge change in kids.

I was born in the early 50's.
We had none of todays tech toys, and very few store bought toys at all.
We played outside, with the dogs, with our bikes, made forts with hay bales in the barn, played ball, went fishing, etc.
And I do not EVER remember telling my parents, "I'm bored".

Now, about all I see kids doing is texting, computer games, x-box, etc.
And at one point of nearly every single day, you hear, "I'm bored".



As for adults, I have never seen as much time and money spent on "keeping up with the Jones". It is frightening how much peer pressure dictates their decisions.

Yup! My parents didn't think it was their job to entertain me! They trained me up in the way I should go and once my chores were done I was free to go on whatever adventure beckoned!
 

ok doser

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I don't know many who can afford a home these days. Two of my former employers were pretty wealthy and own their own homes. But most people I call "average Joes" are just trying to get through life as best they can.


not sure where you live, but if it's anywhere near detroit, you can afford a home:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/14/cheap-detroit-houses-auction_n_5148152.html

$500:

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Nick M

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I don't know many who can afford a home these days. Two of my former employers were pretty wealthy and own their own homes. But most people I call "average Joes" are just trying to get through life as best they can.

Yet you voted for Obama...6 or 7 times? The answer to the question is yes.
 

SaulToPaul 2

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Never understood the trap of needing an eye catching house and the latest luxury vehicle. My mortgage + auto payment combined are less than $1100 per month, leaving me with ample excess monthly income to save.
 

ok doser

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bought my house for 9 grand fifteen years ago

pay 200 in combined taxes

no mortgage payment

no car payment

Spoiler
no income either, but that's being addressed :)
 

Buzzword

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Hmmm... We must run in different circles. :chuckle: I'm not seeing too many who can even purchase a home, much less an expensive one. My older daughter and her husband just bought their first house, but it's an older fixer upper....$280,000 or thereabouts. The loan included leveling the house, paint, flooring, etc. Lots of families I know just rent. :idunno:

This.

My wife and I are barely making our $850 in rent every month, and our landlord covers repairs and lawn work.
I genuinely can't imagine making enough to BUY a house (any kind of house, anywhere), let alone MAINTAIN it.

To say nothing of dealing with the source of grief I've heard horror stories of from every single homeowner I know who isn't out in the country:
Homeowner's Associations.

The more I hear about 'em, that there is this nonelected body who somehow has the authority to tell me what I can and can't do with MY theoretical property which I theoretically BOUGHT and I theoretically OWN, the less I want a house.
 

Quincy

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I once bought an expensive townhouse just north of Toronto, in Richmond Hill, ON. It was a horrible mistake and I would never do it again. Where I live now, 1/4 of that money would buy you a very nice house, though I question the sanity of anyone who would spend money on a house here.... The people who have the expensive houses here are all middle-aged and upper middle-class if not wealthy. They live on top of the mountains in gated luxury-complexes, hiding out from the ghetto below. Crazy, crazy people doing that. Money doesn't make you sane.
 

chrysostom

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I see such materialism in contradiction to ones spiritual life. What about the parents who are, or have lived a less material life, yet saved money for their kids to inherit. Are these parents fooling themselves about their fortunes, not spending?

our generation made a mess of it
so
I don't see how we can tell them what to do
 

Ktoyou

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Never understood the trap of needing an eye catching house :up:and the latest luxury vehicle. :up:My mortgage + auto payment combined are less than $1100 per month, leaving me with ample excess monthly income to save.

Told a banker today, I spend around $1500 a month.

Here is the kicker, I live in Alabama and pay zero property taxes! Truly, I have no property taxes and they are not due upon my death.

Here is one question i had on my mind. Is holding the money and not spending it as materialistic as spending the money?
 

The Berean

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I live in Silicon Valley so I understand this problem imtimately. The real estate guy, Ken DeLeon, comes off as a really greedy a$$, especially at the end.

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Ktoyou

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.....

I was born in the early 50's.
We had none of todays tech toys, and very few store bought toys at all.
We played outside, with the dogs, with our bikes, made forts with hay bales in the barn, played ball, went fishing, etc.
And I do not EVER remember telling my parents, "I'm bored".

Same here. We were doing the same things in the 1940s and 50s. I tell you truthfully here, my gather was rich, not just wealthy. He never bought us any expensive toys. My father never believed in kids watching TV! We had to do chores and pay for our bikes. All I sensed was really valuable was material success.

Here is what he did believe in. You had to do better than everyone else in school. We had to spend after dinner studying, we all knew we had to go to college. If we did poorly in school, we would have been punished with summer school. One of my sisters had to attend. My father went so far as to lower some of our grades on school papers!

I made it quite different for my kids, they had parties at our home and we bought them bikes. I do believe they were a bit more bored?
 

Ktoyou

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Hmmm... We must run in different circles. :chuckle: I'm not seeing too many who can even purchase a home, much less an expensive one. My older daughter and her husband just bought their first house, but it's an older fixer upper....$280,000 or thereabouts. The loan included leveling the house, paint, flooring, etc. Lots of families I know just rent. :idunno:

Well that is in the price range of what i said was an experience of higher cost homes, here one over 250 grande is going to be over 2500 square feet; my home in Alabama, 2250 square feet, is less of value by 50 grande and not a fixer-upper.
It is my kids and younger, who I was thinking about, regarding such expensive homes. I think they are too materialistic, and wonder about me?
 

glorydaz

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Well that is in the price range of what i said was an experience of higher cost homes, here one over 250 grande is going to be over 2500 square feet; my home in Alabama, 2250 square feet, is less of value by 50 grande and not a fixer-upper.
It is my kids and younger, who I was thinking about, regarding such expensive homes. I think they are too materialistic, and wonder about me?


Well, I certainly agree that the younger generation is too materialistic. Seems many were handed everything on a silver platter, and even when they get out on their own they expect to keep the same standard of living. Even if it's only laptops and cellphones...they're into their stuff.

What gets me is that it's virtually impossible to find teenagers who are willing to work. You can offer them good bucks, but if it involves labor, they don't want it. :idunno:
 

Ktoyou

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:mmph:How true! It seems kids used to be out looking for any work, doing yard work, looking for part-time jobs at anyplace where they might find it; now it seems most kids do not want to work at all.

I never had a cellphone; my kids think I am nuts, not wanting one.:confused: Maybe I am a little wacky in some ways. :dizzy:
 
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