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Putting a cross on a pagan symbols does not made it clean.
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Putting a cross on a pagan symbols does not made it clean.
Cruciform
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So your answer is that you have no idea whatsoever what significance the cross has regarding the obelisk. I'll wait for jamie to answer for himself.
The cross at the top of the obelisk signifies an updated historic Egyptian sun god religion from Heliopolis.
KingdomRose
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What a silly accusation. Do YOU take Christ's teachings as seriously as I and my friends do? Do you really think of him as your King---a real head-of-government that you identify your citizenship with?
Do you honor what Jesus said at Matthew 5:44 or do you go along with everybody else and learn to kill with your country's armed forces? We don't. If all Germans were JWs in WWII not a single American would have been killed by a German. Think about that.
Is Jesus your Leader, your Lord, your King? Or do you vote for men? We view Jesus as our Head-of-state, and we don't vote for anyone else. We have faith that He will take care of things without us getting involved in the world's problems. (John 17:14)
Can you really say we don't have much to do with Jesus?
Cruciform
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So your answer is that you have no idea whatsoever what significance the cross has regarding the obelisk. That's what I thought. Come back when you actually know what you're talking about.
KingdomRose
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You guys argue about trivialities and totally avoid commenting on my post above about what Jesus tried to preach to the world of his day and even now directs his followers to take to all the nations (Matthew 24:14). The Good News of the Kingdom---a real government. What is it about God's government that you don't like to think about?
:king:
Its not about a goverment.
Its about becoming a new creation in Jesus Christ.
"Therfore if any man be "IN CHRIST", he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold all things have become new" 2 Corinthians 5:17.
To be "In Christ" means that you are trusting in him and in him alone for your salvation. There is no room in the Gospel for religion.
beloved57
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If one is a new creation they would believe the Gospel, Tulip !
They will believe in the following;
John 3:16 King James Version (KJV)
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Romans 10:9-13 King James Version (KJV)
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
A Flower? Get real!
Nanja
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Jer. 17:9
The heart [inner man, mind, will, understanding] is deceitful above all things,
and desperately wicked: who can know it?
That's the heart of a natural/carnal man: it's desperately wicked.
So the only way a man has the ability to believe unto righteousness,
is if he is first given John 3:27 the Spirit in New Birth John 3:6,
because faith / belief is a Fruit of the Spirit Gal. 5:22.
No person will ever hear /understand the Spiritual meaning
of the scriptures 1 Cor 2:13 unless he is first Born of God John 8:47!
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Hey Nanja, your mentor B57 was given a warning. He kept saying the
same thing over and over again. Poor fella.
same thing over and over again. Poor fella.
He only has one thing on his mind. The judgement.
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Indeed. Would that those having nothing to say refrain from giving ample evidence of it.
AMR
I suppose that is why you don't believe in the Gospel that justifies the ungodly, Romans 4:5 and reconciles the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:19.
beloved57
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You don't believe or understand them scriptures! Explain them !
I thought you would never ask. Do you really want to know?
Jesus as God's new Adam and our new humanity has reconciled us to God, 2 Corinthians 5:19.
In our name and on our behalf Jesus has offered to God the Father a life of perfect obedience to his Holy Law. It was his life that was lived for our justification, Romans 3:26.
That was not enough. Jesus who knew no sin became sin for us, 2 Corinthians 5:21. Jesus takes away our sins and the sins of the whole world, 1 John 2:2.
Because of the work of Jesus we can now stand before God as Justified. Not only justified, but sanctified and redeemed, 1 Corinthians 1:30.
But only if you receive and believe.
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It is worse than useless to follow a program of "whosever will", in a world of "universal won't".
AMR
beloved57
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You have not explained anything, just quoted more scripture which you don't believe or understand ! Those People in the world of 2 Cor 5:19 have no sin charged to them, it is a saved world !
There you are Pate...fixed it for you
Right! It is a saved world. God now sees ALL THINGS in his Son Jesus Christ.
BUT NOTHING IS YOURS IF YOU DON'T RECEIVE IT.